Hanslune Posted October 19, 2016 Author #101 Share Posted October 19, 2016 3 hours ago, cladking said: My ignorance has always been virtually total, virtually absolute. I realized at a very young age this could never change so I never tried to fight it. Understanding is more important than knowing. I've always thought differently and done things differently than everyone else. I've always gotten "unique" results by "unique" means. I've never had qualms about it or felt guilty in the least. Most people just never notice. I look forward not to be proven correct but to seeing what the scholars and smart people and specialists can make of ancient science. I look forwartd to learning about history and metaphysics going back to the origin of the human race 40,000 years ago. In the fullness of time my role in this will be seen for what it really was; a bit part in a much larger scene. In 50 years nexialists will call me an idiot and wonder how it took me so long to make a simple point. Delusion You made your 'point' nine years ago. You took a ridiculous idea and failed to develop any evidence to support it and posted tens of thousands of completely unscientific nonsense filled messages - but seeing no one believed you you started making stuff up, lying about what you had said and repeating the same failed claims hundreds of times. In the end since you've never written up your ideas as soon as you unfortunately pass from this world, depriving all of your unintended comedy your ideas with no supporting research will die and be quickly forgotten. That my friend will be your legacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted October 19, 2016 #102 Share Posted October 19, 2016 5 hours ago, Hanslune said: Hmmm did you note he doesn't show the orientation and cuts of the right side of the page? Also there is a faint red line that runs from the rear line to the front - Cladking is a that central dividing line? No I didnt notice that .... I am still too busy admiring the perspective and innovative 'font' . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted October 19, 2016 #103 Share Posted October 19, 2016 5 hours ago, cladking said: Maybe you didn't read the thread before you helped Hanslune (et al) trash it. try reading just the first post and you'll see I predicted it exactly. No, I dont see that at all . However I do see this comment you wrote under the drawing there : " This drawing is actually obsolete and doesn't include newer information. " So ... exactly what is 'predicted exactly' ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted October 19, 2016 #104 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Cladking reminds me of another hoaxer named Callemann. The name Calleman belong to a buffoon that promoted all sorts of dim witted 2012 nonsense. A real scientist labeled him the "prophet of Nonsense". After the debacle of 2012 Calleman went on to write a book in which he claimed all of his predictions came true. This delusional attitude of Calleman reminds me of Cladking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted October 19, 2016 #105 Share Posted October 19, 2016 4 hours ago, cladking said: My ignorance has always been virtually total, virtually absolute. I realized at a very young age this could never change so I never tried to fight it. Understanding is more important than knowing. Ummmm .... ignorance and understanding together ? But 'knowing' is not needed for understanding ? No no no Claddy , you will never get to wisdom ( yet another quality that is not included in ignorance ) that way. 4 hours ago, cladking said: I've always thought differently and done things differently than everyone else. I've always gotten "unique" results by "unique" means. I've never had qualms about it or felt guilty in the least. Most people just never notice. I look forward not to be proven correct but to seeing what the scholars and smart people and specialists can make of ancient science. You said that before, yet there are certain things about it that you refuse to read about it or discuss , ts all Cladking theory . 4 hours ago, cladking said: I look forwartd to learning about history and metaphysics going back to the origin of the human race 40,000 years ago. Will you learn something about that right now then ? 4 hours ago, cladking said: In the fullness of time my role in this will be seen for what it really was; a bit part in a much larger scene. Oh yeah ... there you are , next to the back leg of the 18th tower 2nd row back 35' north of the east west center line . 4 hours ago, cladking said: In 50 years nexialists will call me an idiot and wonder how it took me so long to make a simple point. Oh, I am sure they already are ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanslune Posted October 19, 2016 Author #106 Share Posted October 19, 2016 5 hours ago, cladking said: I've always thought differently and done things differently than everyone else. I've always gotten "unique" results by "unique" means. I've never had qualms about it or felt guilty in the least. Most people just never notice. I look forward not to be proven correct but to seeing what the scholars and smart people and specialists can make of ancient science. I look forwartd to learning about history and metaphysics going back to the origin of the human race 40,000 years ago. In the fullness of time my role in this will be seen for what it really was; a bit part in a much larger scene. Yes considering that for a year or more you told us over and over again the Hawass and the Egyptologists were going to hide this research from you by not releasing the data. When can we expect your apology for all those wrong accusations and acceptance by you that your prediction that we would never see the data and Egyptology would hide it were wrong? hmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harte Posted October 19, 2016 #107 Share Posted October 19, 2016 11 hours ago, Hanslune said: Its called rain and running water. I predicted that. Harte 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harte Posted October 19, 2016 #108 Share Posted October 19, 2016 8 hours ago, Varelse said: Maybe the builders were lazy and hollowed out a place for misc trash and rubble instead of carrying it out. Nah. This void most likely contains a ramp. That's why CK can't find any evidence of ramps. They covered them up. Either that, or it's apart of the drainage system built in for used carbonated water from the Geyser. Harte 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted October 19, 2016 #109 Share Posted October 19, 2016 18 hours ago, Hanslune said: Simple if something is found it will be incorporated into the body of orthodox knowledge of course they are looking for just such things, just like most other outliers. Well if the voids turn out to be real rooms that offer more than the current pyramid narrative... what choice does the orthodox establishment have but to incorporate it into what they know. But if the establishment is any thing like the the rank and file in this thread then i doubt they'll be very pleased about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted October 19, 2016 #110 Share Posted October 19, 2016 18 hours ago, Hanslune said: It says that Egyptology is science and Cladking makes stuff up. He made up his stuff before there was a hint of a void there. He never predicted that particular void. Of course we'll have to wait and see what is actually there. At present Cladking (on other websites) is proclaiming that it is a corridor leading to a heat source and the Madfet something statue or others and or it is a mn' canal...... We shall see shan't we? Tell us SL what you find compelling about Cladking's ideas? Never said i found anything compelling about Cladking's theories. IMO, I think his wacky theories are just as logical as those of orthodox Egyptologists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted October 19, 2016 #111 Share Posted October 19, 2016 15 hours ago, ShadowSot said: My source is the original scholarly link at the beginning of the thread. Not a popculturenow website Show me the section... you are talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted October 19, 2016 #112 Share Posted October 19, 2016 12 hours ago, kmt_sesh said: My, one void or cavity in one Egyptian monument from one moment in time is going to topple the entire field of Egyptology? That is one hell of an impressive void! ...lets not get too dramatic, huh! You know its no great surprise to me that a Egyptology student and scholar such as yourself and all others too, are rushing to discount the very science that you all seem to take as a new religion when it defends the current pyramid story. Instead of being intrigued and fascinated in what could be you'all seem fearful and negative even before the science of discovering anything new has finished. If for example an observatory is found or a hidden catch of writing that allude to the pyramid being something other than a tomb or a tomb for another built outside of the established time frame, It would certainly be an impressive void. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted October 19, 2016 #113 Share Posted October 19, 2016 11 hours ago, ShadowSot said: Comic books are an excellent source of information. After all, we all know En Sabah Nur built the pyramids thanks to the X-men. The information in the source i provided is sound. If you have a conflicting account then by all means post a link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted October 19, 2016 #114 Share Posted October 19, 2016 The study is not complete. Interim results have been released. There is an odd effort to over emphasize the results when the results have not been released. Even this interim report has been misinterpreted. Then there is this loony suggestion that a new discovery is causing fear. It is as delusional as any of the comments in the thread. If a new void is located and that void appears to large enough to negotiate by people or robotics, maybe there will be more writing to uncover that supports the construction of the pyramid as modern archaeologists have determined. Such writings will show that loonies that visit from the loony bin, aka ATS, are as washed up with their denial of Vyse's discovery as any of the other fringe authors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cladking Posted October 19, 2016 #115 Share Posted October 19, 2016 9 hours ago, back to earth said: Ummmm .... ignorance and understanding together ? But 'knowing' is not needed for understanding ? No no no Claddy , you will never get to wisdom ( yet another quality that is not included in ignorance ) that way. Let me ask you this. How has your "knowing" helped you to understand the muon data? Did your knowing that they mustta used ramps help you predict the results of theis testing? How does having all the answers help you determine whether or not God exists or if that really is a path straight into the pyramid? Thank you but I'll remain ignorant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cladking Posted October 19, 2016 #116 Share Posted October 19, 2016 3 hours ago, Silver_Lyre said: Well if the voids turn out to be real rooms that offer more than the current pyramid narrative... what choice does the orthodox establishment have but to incorporate it into what they know. But if the establishment is any thing like the the rank and file in this thread then i doubt they'll be very pleased about it. Of course. Egyptologists have a long history of incorporating almost anything into the narrative. That's why orthodoxy looks more like frankenstein's mummy than it does a cogent explanation for the physical evidence. However when they get a look at what's right beyond the thermal anomaly it will be impossible to incorporate that into the paradigm. It would be like trying to do the math to show the earth is flat; quite possible but most unwieldy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted October 19, 2016 #117 Share Posted October 19, 2016 1 minute ago, cladking said: Of course. Egyptologists have a long history of incorporating almost anything into the narrative. That's why orthodoxy looks more like frankenstein's mummy than it does a cogent explanation for the physical evidence. However when they get a look at what's right beyond the thermal anomaly it will be impossible to incorporate that into the paradigm. It would be like trying to do the math to show the earth is flat; quite possible but most unwieldy. How do you know that anything discovered becomes "impossible to incorporate that into the paradigm"? You don't. Is this another of your failed predictions? Love the nonsensical statement: "It would be like trying to do the math to show the earth is flat; quite possible but most unwieldy." It illustrates why you probably misunderstood the statement about the research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanslune Posted October 19, 2016 Author #118 Share Posted October 19, 2016 4 hours ago, Silver_Lyre said: Well if the voids turn out to be real rooms that offer more than the current pyramid narrative... what choice does the orthodox establishment have but to incorporate it into what they know. But if the establishment is any thing like the the rank and file in this thread then i doubt they'll be very pleased about it. I cannot speak for others but I'd be quite pleased why would I not? Any addition to our understanding of the universe is welcome. You may be misunderstanding 'our' message. Real discoveries are always sought after. Fake and pretend discoveries (like Cladking's) are not. All we have now is some kind of anomalitic void, that's it. Cladking can go hog wild speculating on this and that and pretend its x or y but until the science is done he just blowing smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanslune Posted October 19, 2016 Author #119 Share Posted October 19, 2016 31 minutes ago, cladking said: Of course. Egyptologists have a long history of incorporating almost anything into the narrative. That's why orthodoxy looks more like frankenstein's mummy than it does a cogent explanation for the physical evidence. Er yeah that is what scientists and they do it all the time. While you may hate science for rightly rejecting your silly ideas it is robust enough to explain the world around us and successfully built the technological world we see. What has fringe and fantasy built? What have you accomplish in ten years besides building a well deserved reputation as a nut? Quote However when they get a look at what's right beyond the thermal anomaly it will be impossible to incorporate that into the paradigm. It would be like trying to do the math to show the earth is flat; quite possible but most unwieldy. Oh my you really are going off into the stratosphere aren't you? That was a lovely, breathless, discontinuous, discordant sentence and shows your deep belief that you are going to shatter the world by making stuff up. The reality will be quite different.lol Yes considering that for a year or more you told us over and over again the Hawass and the Egyptologists were going to hide this research from you by not releasing the data. When can we expect your apology for all those wrong accusations and acceptance by you that your prediction that we would never see the data and Egyptology would hide it were wrong? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanslune Posted October 19, 2016 Author #120 Share Posted October 19, 2016 47 minutes ago, cladking said: Thank you but I'll remain ignorant. Well good for you the Gods seem to have granted your request. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanslune Posted October 19, 2016 Author #121 Share Posted October 19, 2016 3 hours ago, Silver_Lyre said: ...lets not get too dramatic, huh! You know its no great surprise to me that a Egyptology student and scholar such as yourself and all others too, are rushing to discount the very science that you all seem to take as a new religion when it defends the current pyramid story. Instead of being intrigued and fascinated in what could be you'all seem fearful and negative even before the science of discovering anything new has finished. If for example an observatory is found or a hidden catch of writing that allude to the pyramid being something other than a tomb or a tomb for another built outside of the established time frame, It would certainly be an impressive void. We are reacting to Cladking false bravado and made up conclusion. A void is a void not a known factor until more is known pretending it is anything but what it is - an unknown void - is meaningless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanslune Posted October 19, 2016 Author #122 Share Posted October 19, 2016 4 hours ago, Silver_Lyre said: Never said i found anything compelling about Cladking's theories. IMO, I think his wacky theories are just as logical as those of orthodox Egyptologists. Well at least you are half right and I take the rest of the sentence as a lame attempt to troll. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cladking Posted October 19, 2016 #123 Share Posted October 19, 2016 1 hour ago, stereologist said: How do you know that anything discovered becomes "impossible to incorporate that into the paradigm"? You don't. Is this another of your failed predictions? Love the nonsensical statement: "It would be like trying to do the math to show the earth is flat; quite possible but most unwieldy." It illustrates why you probably misunderstood the statement about the research. I don't know why I say things like this since you won't understand but the reality is that there is absolutely no scientific difference between a flat earth and an earth as a sphere. Our science simply doesn't work this way. The reality is the math necessary to consider the earth flat is simply far more complicated than the math to consider it a sphere. It appears as a sphere to us so we agree it's a sphere. It is convention that makes it a sphere, not reality as determined by experiment. I know what's inside the pyramid at the base of the NE corner. It is our past and our future. It is history and a means to show the earth really is a sphere within the limits of our ability to define reality (to glimpse amun). It is the Mafdet Lynx surrounded by the Book of Thot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cladking Posted October 19, 2016 #124 Share Posted October 19, 2016 1 hour ago, Hanslune said: Yes considering that for a year or more you told us over and over again the Hawass and the Egyptologists were going to hide this research from you by not releasing the data. . They still haven't released the infrared results! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanslune Posted October 19, 2016 Author #125 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Just now, cladking said: I don't know why I say things like this since you won't understand but the reality is that there is absolutely no scientific difference between a flat earth and an earth as a sphere. Well no.......lol Quote Our science simply doesn't work this way. The reality is the math necessary to consider the earth flat is simply far more complicated than the math to consider it a sphere. It appears as a sphere to us so we agree it's a sphere. It is convention that makes it a sphere, not reality as determined by experiment. Cladking what are you babbling about ? Quote I know what's inside the pyramid at the base of the NE corner. No you don't you are pretending you know but the rest of us know you are making it up. Quote It is the Mafdet Lynx surrounded by the Book of Thot. No its most probably limestone blocks - the mafdet is probably just a result of you having eaten to many chili hot dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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