Update on Scan Pyramid project Oct 2016

[Hanslune]

5 minutes ago, mstower said:

Not sure exactly where he is on this.  Not sure it matters.  Still the “recovery vault” tomfoolery and he put out a whole book bashing Vyse (with promises of more to come), so in his own mind he is free to say whatever he likes on the question, with all of his usual cogency.

M.

I think he may have abandoned the lost civilization/Atlantis meme he was hinting about earlier and instead is going to go more intensively into AE trivia. The 'big brush' ideas area is crowded with fringe authors while he may be seeking fame and fortune in small stuff like Osiris pictures, moving rocks with balloons and other important stuff.

[kmt_sesh]

1 hour ago, Hanslune said:

Not to mention the context of location and what else is built there. Oh question, I haven't been following SC much after he disappeared off here a year or so ago. Did he ever state when he thinks they Giza pyramids were built. Years ago he seemed to imply they were built about 20,000 years ago?

You probably shouldn't quote me on this, but we've all discussed the age of the Giza monuments numerous times, including in this thread. Scott has always stated that they're much older than conventionally known, and if I'm not mistaken, the figure of 10,000 years came up in one of his posts earlier in this thread. This included a debate about carbon dating of these monuments, which is a sticking point.

[cormac mac airt]

29 minutes ago, kmt_sesh said:

You probably shouldn't quote me on this, but we've all discussed the age of the Giza monuments numerous times, including in this thread. Scott has always stated that they're much older than conventionally known, and if I'm not mistaken, the figure of 10,000 years came up in one of his posts earlier in this thread. This included a debate about carbon dating of these monuments, which is a sticking point.

A 10,000 year BP date can be discarded IMO as the most advanced cultures near Giza in antiquity, namely the Maadi Culture as well as the Merimda Culture were neither technology advanced nor sizeable enough to have constructed the GP.

cormac

[Scott Creighton]

55 minutes ago, kmt_sesh said:

You probably shouldn't quote me on this, but we've all discussed the age of the Giza monuments numerous times, including in this thread. Scott has always stated that they're much older than conventionally known, and if I'm not mistaken, the figure of 10,000 years came up in one of his posts earlier in this thread. This included a debate about carbon dating of these monuments, which is a sticking point.

Kmt_Sesh,

This will give you a better unerstanding of my current thnking on the dating of the Gizamids. It's a bit off-topic but, as I say, it presents my thinking on this and why I come to that conclusion:

Giza: Portrait of a Prehistoric Pole Shift

(Not that I expect any of the usual posters here to remotely accept any of this, naturally. It's just too - well, 'fringe' for want of a better description).

SC

Edited November 28, 2017 by Scott Creighton

[Jarocal]

11 minutes ago, Scott Creighton said:

Kmt_Sesh,

This will give you a better unerstanding of my current thnking on the dating of the Gizamids. It's a bit off-topic but, as I say, it presents my thinking on this and why I come to that conclusion:

Giza: Portrait of a Prehistoric Pole Shift

(Not that I expect any of the usual posters here to remotely accept any of this, naturally. It's just too - well, 'fringe' for want of a better description).

SC

Do you have an article or concise summation of the video?

I'm not a big fan of YouTube videos...

[Jarocal]

34 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said:

A 10,000 year BP date can be discarded IMO as the most advanced cultures near Giza in antiquity, namely the Maadi Culture as well as the Merimda Culture were neither technology advanced nor sizeable enough to have constructed the GP.

cormac

Maybe some of Gobekli Tepi's workers decided to work on a side project...

[cormac mac airt]

34 minutes ago, Jarocal said:

Maybe some of Gobekli Tepi's workers decided to work on a side project...

And maybe the Oompa Loompas got bored.

cormac

[mstower]

14 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said:

And maybe the Oompa Loompas got bored.

cormac

Now it can be told.  The Great Pyramid is a chocolate factory and Creighton is Mike Teavee.

M.

[kmt_sesh]

1 hour ago, cormac mac airt said:

And maybe the Oompa Loompas got bored.

cormac

I think you're on to something here. Note this wall painting of ancient Egyptians:

Now, note this image of Oompa Loompas:

The skin tones are the same and even the hair is kind of similar. Even the clothing coloration is similar. This, then, is pictorial evidence that Oompa Loompas are ancient Egyptians. Therefore, Oompa Loompas built that pyramid.

[Jarocal]

23 minutes ago, kmt_sesh said:

I think you're on to something here. Note this wall painting of ancient Egyptians:

 

Better questions for Egyptologists to answer would be:

1) why is the first fully visible figure on the right side of the drawing carrying a water bong?

2) why is the figure immediately behind him in the Line carrying what appears to be a cellophane bag of potato crisps?

[kmt_sesh]

I'm going to take a serious moment here to announce some very sad news. Our poster Khaemwaset has passed away. His son sent me a PM about this only yesterday. I was aware of Khaemwaset's struggle with health but didn't know they were that serious.

We have a thread at UM to memorialize posters we've loved and lost: The Rememberance Thread. I did a write-up for Khaemwaset there. He was one of my favorite posters in this section of UM, and I will miss him. I know many of us will.

Rest in peace, friend.

[Hanslune]

3 hours ago, Scott Creighton said:

Kmt_Sesh,

This will give you a better unerstanding of my current thnking on the dating of the Gizamids. It's a bit off-topic but, as I say, it presents my thinking on this and why I come to that conclusion:

Giza: Portrait of a Prehistoric Pole Shift

(Not that I expect any of the usual posters here to remotely accept any of this, naturally. It's just too - well, 'fringe' for want of a better description).

SC

Well that was boring to go thru to find out the answer about 13k old by the guess of SC. As noted by pretty much everyone there is no evidence of an society capable to conduct mass stone building at that time. No sign of their being at Giza. No sign they had a written language, etc etc., so just an exercise in mathematical woo. Dull

[Harte]

16 minutes ago, kmt_sesh said:

I'm going to take a serious moment here to announce some very sad news. Our poster Khaemwaset has passed away. His son sent me a PM about this only yesterday. I was aware of Khaemwaset's struggle with health but didn't know they were that serious.

We have a thread at UM to memorialize posters we've loved and lost: The Rememberance Thread. I did a write-up for Khaemwaset there. He was one of my favorite posters in this section of UM, and I will miss him. I know many of us will.

Rest in peace, friend.

A terrible loss to family and friends, and a major blow to the Ancient Civ community here at UM.

A real kick in the gut.

Harte

[Hanslune]

29 minutes ago, kmt_sesh said:

I'm going to take a serious moment here to announce some very sad news. Our poster Khaemwaset has passed away. His son sent me a PM about this only yesterday. I was aware of Khaemwaset's struggle with health but didn't know they were that serious.

We have a thread at UM to memorialize posters we've loved and lost: The Rememberance Thread. I did a write-up for Khaemwaset there. He was one of my favorite posters in this section of UM, and I will miss him. I know many of us will.

Rest in peace, friend.

Very sad to hear of the great loss

 

[cormac mac airt]

52 minutes ago, kmt_sesh said:

I'm going to take a serious moment here to announce some very sad news. Our poster Khaemwaset has passed away. His son sent me a PM about this only yesterday. I was aware of Khaemwaset's struggle with health but didn't know they were that serious.

We have a thread at UM to memorialize posters we've loved and lost: The Rememberance Thread. I did a write-up for Khaemwaset there. He was one of my favorite posters in this section of UM, and I will miss him. I know many of us will.

Rest in peace, friend.

Sad news indeed. He will be sorely missed. RIP

cormac

[kmt_sesh]

35 minutes ago, Harte said:

A terrible loss to family and friends, and a major blow to the Ancient Civ community here at UM.

A real kick in the gut.

Harte

 

23 minutes ago, Hanslune said:

Very sad to hear of the great loss

 

We've certainly lost other UM members over the years. We all become a kind of family. But this is the first time someone has died who I was so fond of. I appreciate every Egyptophile I meet, and Khaemwaset was more knowledgeable than many. And completely likable.

[kmt_sesh]

2 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said:

Sad news indeed. He will be sorely missed. RIP

cormac

Absolutely. Some of us have our own share of health problems, as you know, and it makes one think of his mortality. This news kind of smacked me in the face.

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

3 hours ago, cormac mac airt said:

And maybe the Oompa Loompas got bored.

cormac

Ooma loompa summery see, we finished all our work before tea.

rumps lumpa slinkety lynx, we invented the smirking Sphinx. 

 

[kmt_sesh]

29 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

Ooma loompa summery see, we finished all our work before tea.

rumps lumpa slinkety lynx, we invented the smirking Sphinx. 

 

Have you been imbibing again, Hats?

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

Just now, kmt_sesh said:

Have you been imbibing again, Hats?

Shir, I’have no hidea whhat ewe meen.

[kmt_sesh]

32 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

Shir, I’have no hidea whhat ewe meen.

Oh, no, by all means, keep it going. Your typing is improving. 

[cormac mac airt]

From Scott's last post one has to wonder which alleged pole shift is being discussed. I know which one it's NOT and that would be the Gothenburg Geomagnetic Excursion which is dated according to a recent (January 2017) paper to 12,400 C14-yrs BP//14,600 cal∙yrs BP so NOT the one alluded to in the youtube video dated to 11,500 BP. 

http://file.scirp.org/pdf/OJER_2017110814455470.pdf

cormac

Edited November 29, 2017 by cormac mac airt

[Hanslune]

32 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said:

From Scott's last post one has to wonder which alleged pole shift is being discussed. I know which one it's NOT and that would be the Gothenburg Geomagnetic Excursion which is dated according to a recent (January 2017) paper to 12,400 C14-yrs BP//14,600 cal∙yrs BP so NOT the one alluded to in the youtube video dated to 11,500 BP. 

http://file.scirp.org/pdf/OJER_2017110814455470.pdf

cormac

Scott made up that stuff years ago. In the fringe world bad ideas never go bad, they just still and gather mold. You just bring him out, dust them off and throw them against the wall and see if they stick. They don't and they slide back down and start up the mold again. Bringing up old obsolete ideas is done to appear to be doing something while achieving nothing.

He discussed two kinds one where the pole shifts  which is not what he was on about (I believe) but the other kind where the entire planet tilts over - I forget the technical word for that.....wait remembered axial tilt?......or something or perhaps he was talking about soup made out of brains treated with an old fashioned egg-beater. Not sure.

 

Edited November 29, 2017 by Hanslune

[stereologist]

The pole shift is a term coined by Icke IIRC. Anyways, it is a term used to describe the crust slipping over the mantle. There is at least one such event which occurred 800Mya and it took off at the stunning speed of 1m a year. That is much faster than the motion due to plate tectonics.

This is often confused with the wander of the magnetic pole.

I didn't bother to watch the video. I suppose it is the same old demonstrably false nonsense about an axial tilt.

[Hanslune]

12 minutes ago, stereologist said:

The pole shift is a term coined by Icke IIRC. Anyways, it is a term used to describe the crust slipping over the mantle. There is at least one such event which occurred 800Mya and it took off at the stunning speed of 1m a year. That is much faster than the motion due to plate tectonics.

This is often confused with the wander of the magnetic pole.

I didn't bother to watch the video. I suppose it is the same old demonstrably false nonsense about an axial tilt.

Its actually a slide show. It shows the typical fringe 'pick a dot and imagine that the AE thought it was really important', So the AE built the pyramids to sight on it, used the tunnels to sight on it, etc, for reasons not made very clear and then noting that it doesn't point at it anymore and the different can then be, by some mathematically gymnastics, made to produce a date usually going back to the magical 10,500 or in this case a bit older.