Awlsew Posted August 24, 2019 #401 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 minute ago, cormac mac airt said: Your evidence that they have altered history concerning Qin Shi Huang is what? Because you say so? cormac Again, I am stating an opinion. Yes, you disagree with my opinion, as do others. The idea is alternative history, nothing more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted August 24, 2019 #402 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Just now, Awlsew said: Yes. But what does that have to do with Qin being caucasian or not? A DNA test would confirm his heritage just as a DNA test would confirm your relationship to your xGreat Grandparents. Same thing. And there is really no reason to believe that he was anything other than Chinese since his parents were Chinese and are attested to in Chinese Texts. There aren't even any stories questioning his heritage. cormac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awlsew Posted August 24, 2019 #403 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Just now, cormac mac airt said: A DNA test would confirm his heritage cormac A visual picture would confirm his heritage. Simply an image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted August 24, 2019 #404 Share Posted August 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Awlsew said: Again, I am stating an opinion. Yes, you disagree with my opinion, as do others. The idea is alternative history, nothing more than that. You're stating baseless speculation which ISN'T Alternative History, it's an attempt at historical revisionism IMO. cormac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awlsew Posted August 24, 2019 #405 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 minute ago, cormac mac airt said: just as a DNA test would confirm your relationship to your xGreat Grandparents. cormac Words are thicker than blood. My great grand parents were the parents of my grandparents, A DNA relationship would be irrelevant on a personal level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awlsew Posted August 24, 2019 #406 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Just now, cormac mac airt said: You're stating baseless speculation which ISN'T Alternative History, it's an attempt at historical revisionism IMO. cormac Hey my 'thesaurus' states that alternative history and historical revisionism are the exact same thing, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted August 24, 2019 #407 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Just now, Awlsew said: Words are thicker than blood. My great grand parents were the parents of my grandparents, A DNA relationship would be irrelevant on a personal level. There's a reason I said X Great Grandparents, I knew you'd try to pull that excuse. If you go back far enough you don't know WHAT your X Great Grandparents were. Just like most everyone you must 'assume' you know. cormac 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awlsew Posted August 24, 2019 #408 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Just now, cormac mac airt said: There's a reason I said X Great Grandparents, I knew you'd try to pull that excuse. If you go back far enough you don't know WHAT your X Great Grandparents were. Just like most everyone you must 'assume' you know. cormac DNA is not needed with visual images. Simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted August 24, 2019 #409 Share Posted August 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Awlsew said: Hey my 'thesaurus' states that alternative history and historical revisionism are the exact same thing, IMO. They're not considered as such here by the majority. The latter is rather held in contempt. cormac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awlsew Posted August 24, 2019 #410 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 minute ago, cormac mac airt said: I knew you'd try to pull that excuse. cormac Family? You knew I would pull the family excuse? You knew I would say that family has nothing to do with DNA? ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted August 24, 2019 #411 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Awlsew said: DNA is not needed with visual images. Simple as that. So you have pictures of your Great Grandparents from, say, 8 generations then? I doubt it. cormac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awlsew Posted August 24, 2019 #412 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 minute ago, cormac mac airt said: They're not considered as such here by the majority. The latter is rather held in contempt. cormac Yes, we know. You and your majority do not agree with my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awlsew Posted August 24, 2019 #413 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Just now, cormac mac airt said: So you have pictures of your Great Grandparents from, say, 8 generations then? I doubt it. cormac OFF TOPIC This thread is about the tomb of Qin. Can we stay on topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted August 24, 2019 #414 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Just now, Awlsew said: Yes, we know. You and your majority do not agree with my opinion. I'm not even talking about you, but here at UM and in this forum. cormac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awlsew Posted August 24, 2019 #415 Share Posted August 24, 2019 The pictures/images I am refering to would be of the body buried in the tomb of Qin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted August 24, 2019 #416 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Awlsew said: OFF TOPIC This thread is about the tomb of Qin. Can we stay on topic? I get it, you get backed into a corner you move the posts. cormac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awlsew Posted August 24, 2019 #417 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Just now, cormac mac airt said: I'm not even talking about you, but here at UM and in this forum. cormac Hey you are all over the place, hard for us simpletons to keep up. Can you keep to the subject matter specific to this thread and leave the irrelvant suppositions such as 'pictures of my great grand parents' out of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awlsew Posted August 24, 2019 #418 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Just now, cormac mac airt said: I get it, you get backed into a corner you move the posts. cormac You changed the focus off of the topic of this thread. Simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted August 24, 2019 #419 Share Posted August 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Awlsew said: The pictures/images I am refering to would be of the body buried in the tomb of Qin. How is anyone supposed to believe you would know anything from pictures, you've already mangled understanding DNA? And you apparently didn't know what constituted China in the 3rd century BC. cormac 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awlsew Posted August 24, 2019 #420 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Fact- Caucasian mummies have been found in China Fact - The current Chinese government hides historical events Opinion - The current Chinese government will not allow the tomb of Qin because they are concerned the contents would not conform to their view of History. *many disagree with my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awlsew Posted August 24, 2019 #421 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Just now, cormac mac airt said: How is anyone supposed to believe you would know anything from pictures, cormac The notion is getting a current image of any possible body buried in the tomb of Qin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted August 24, 2019 #422 Share Posted August 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Awlsew said: Hey you are all over the place, hard for us simpletons to keep up. Can you keep to the subject matter specific to this thread and leave the irrelvant suppositions such as 'pictures of my great grand parents' out of it? Can you leave baseless opinions pretending to be what is "likely" concerning Qin Shi Huang out of the thread. The fact is that you don't know what is likely, you didn't even know enough to understand what constituted China back then. BTW, it apparently should be pointed out that this is NOT your thread. cormac 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awlsew Posted August 24, 2019 #423 Share Posted August 24, 2019 On 8/20/2019 at 10:15 PM, Awlsew said: Eastern Iranians have red hair? This is a picture of an ancient Chinese Mummy. Could we compare that image to one of the body buried in the tomb of Qin if they opened that tomb?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awlsew Posted August 24, 2019 #424 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Just now, cormac mac airt said: Can you leave baseless opinions pretending to be what is "likely" concerning Qin Shi Huang out of the thread. The fact is that you don't know what is likely, you didn't even know enough to understand what constituted China back then. BTW, it apparently should be pointed out that this is NOT your thread. cormac Of course it is not my thread, duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted August 24, 2019 #425 Share Posted August 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Awlsew said: The notion is getting a current image of any possible body buried in the tomb of Qin. The problem is that after 2000+ years there is no way to tell just 'what' exists in his tomb and how much it would be affected by excavation and subsequent possible deterioration of artifacts by exposure to the modern atmosphere. It's MASSIVE and cost prohibitive to cover the entire layout and even then it's not a guarantee that anything is left of his corpse but bones and even those may be in terrible shape. No one is willing to excavate just to satisfy YOUR curiousity, nor should they. cormac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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