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Mausoleum of the First Qin Emperor solution?


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1 minute ago, cormac mac airt said:

The problem is that after 2000+ years there is no way to tell just 'what' exists in his tomb and how much it would be affected by excavation and subsequent possible deterioration of artifacts by exposure to the modern atmosphere. It's MASSIVE and cost prohibitive to cover the entire layout and even then it's not a guarantee that anything is left of his corpse but bones and even those may be in terrible shape. No one is willing to excavate just to satisfy YOUR curiousity, nor should they. 

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Riiight.  It is too complex for us modern folk to figure out. We ain't smart enough today to handle such ancient structures(sarcasm)

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5 minutes ago, Awlsew said:

This is a picture of an ancient Chinese Mummy.

Could we compare that image to one of the body buried in the tomb of Qin if they opened that tomb??

Actually no, it's NOT. Just because the Tarim Basin falls within modern China's border doesn't make that a "Chinese" mummy. At best it makes it a Central/Southwestern Asian mummy. 

If the body is nothing but bones then there wouldn't be much to compare and if the bones are severely degraded, which is possible, then there is NO WAY to compare the two with a picture. 

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Just now, cormac mac airt said:

Actually no, it's NOT. Just because the Tarim Basin falls within modern China's border doesn't make that a "Chinese" mummy. At best it makes it a Central/Southwestern Asian mummy. 

If the body is nothing but bones then there wouldn't be much to compare and if the bones are severely degraded, which is possible, then there is NO WAY to compare the two with a picture. 

cormac

We don't know that unless they open the tomb. Until then all we can do is speculate.

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3 minutes ago, Awlsew said:

Riiight.  It is too complex for us modern folk to figure out. We ain't smart enough today to handle such ancient structures(sarcasm)

To do a proper job it would take exacting work to disassemble even a portion of the tomb and there is no way to know what state the inside is in or how long such a detailed excavation would take. It's certainly possible that even if an excavation started today it wouldn't answer any questions within your lifetime. Or would you prefer the Howard Vyse method of excavation, throw dynamite at it until you find what you're looking for and damn the consequences? 

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Just now, cormac mac airt said:

 it wouldn't answer any questions within your lifetime.cormac

The we will speculate. No worries.

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3 minutes ago, Awlsew said:

We don't know that unless they open the tomb. Until then all we can do is speculate.

Baseless speculation has no place in archaeology, especially where excavations are concerned. That's how we end up with idiots using dynamite to dig holes. 

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1 minute ago, cormac mac airt said:

Baseless speculation has no place in archaeology, especially where excavations are concerned. That's how we end up with idiots using dynamite to dig holes. 

cormac

This isn't about archaeology, it is about history. 

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1 minute ago, Awlsew said:

This isn't about archaeology, it is about history. 

In this case an archaeological excavation is how we'd find out so YES, this IS about archaeology even if indirectly. 

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2 hours ago, Awlsew said:

:lol:Man dude, I'm thinkin' that rim of yours is a bit tight, hat-wise 'course. (meant to be a one-liner joke, no offence meant)

You know what they say about men with big heads *wink* *wink* *nudge* *nudge*

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3 minutes ago, Awlsew said:

This isn't about archaeology, it is about cheese. 

 Fixed that for you chief.

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Fact - Bananas are yellow. 

Fact - Taxi cabs are yellow.

Opinion - Taxi cabs are made of bananas.

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Just now, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

You know what they say about men with big heads *wink* *wink* *nudge* *nudge*

That's big FEET.  :w00t:

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1 minute ago, onlookerofmayhem said:

Fact - Bananas are yellow. 

Fact - Taxi cabs are yellow.

Opinion - Taxi cabs are made of bananas.

Taxis? Uber or walk.

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1 minute ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

 Fixed that for you chief.

Smile, and say chess, 16 v 16 ;)

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3 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said:

In this case an archaeological excavation is how we'd find out so YES, this IS about archaeology even if indirectly. 

cormac

Ok.

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If the tomb is digged out now, people a hundred years into the future might say: "It's sad that it was digged out 100 years ago. With the primitive technology they had back then they destroyed so much.".

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Just now, fred_mc said:

If the tomb is digged out now, people a hundred years into the future might say: "It's sad that it was digged out 100 years ago. With the primitive technology they had back then they destroyed so much.".

The way this rock is going, 100 years from now they’ll be asking why the **** we were wasting our time digging up graves and not attempting to stop the mass extinction event we have brewing in the bloody Amazon.

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2 minutes ago, fred_mc said:

If the tomb is digged out now, people a hundred years into the future might say: "It's sad that it was digged out 100 years ago. With the primitive technology they had back then they destroyed so much.".

That's always a possibility no matter how much one thinks they know about a dig site. 

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1 minute ago, fred_mc said:

If the tomb is digged out now, people a hundred years into the future might say: "It's sad that it was digged out 100 years ago. With the primitive technology they had back then they destroyed so much.".

For the living so loved themselves, they gave their only begotton children so they could have the knowledge

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Just now, cormac mac airt said:

That's always a possibility no matter how much one thinks they know about a dig site. 

cormac

If one isn't pulling energy out of the ground, then it is just a hobby

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Just now, Awlsew said:

If one isn't pulling energy out of the ground, then it is just a hobby

It's more than a hobby for those who do the excavating. It's quite often their life and livelihood, especially where the larger sites are. Gobekli Tepe and Akrotiri are examples.

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1 minute ago, cormac mac airt said:

It's quite often their life and livelihood,

cormac

Yes. Must maintain current standards to keep the checks coming. The living are always more important than the dead.

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2 minutes ago, Awlsew said:

Yes. Must maintain current standards to keep the checks coming. The living are always more important than the dead.

You don't appear to think much about archaeologists but think someone should just go ahead and excavate Qin Shi Huang's tomb anyway. Sounds rather hypocritical IMO. 

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Just now, cormac mac airt said:

You don't appear to think much about archaeologists but think someone should just go ahead and excavate Qin Shi Huang's tomb anyway. Sounds rather hypocritical IMO. 

cormac

Hey if they excavate the tomb of Qin then more archeaologists would have jobs. Hello???

Damn dude you lost me there with 'archeaology is a livelihood' and then being opposed to digging the tomb of Qin.

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