Awlsew Posted August 24, 2019 #426 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 minute ago, cormac mac airt said: The problem is that after 2000+ years there is no way to tell just 'what' exists in his tomb and how much it would be affected by excavation and subsequent possible deterioration of artifacts by exposure to the modern atmosphere. It's MASSIVE and cost prohibitive to cover the entire layout and even then it's not a guarantee that anything is left of his corpse but bones and even those may be in terrible shape. No one is willing to excavate just to satisfy YOUR curiousity, nor should they. cormac Riiight. It is too complex for us modern folk to figure out. We ain't smart enough today to handle such ancient structures(sarcasm) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted August 24, 2019 #427 Share Posted August 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, Awlsew said: This is a picture of an ancient Chinese Mummy. Could we compare that image to one of the body buried in the tomb of Qin if they opened that tomb?? Actually no, it's NOT. Just because the Tarim Basin falls within modern China's border doesn't make that a "Chinese" mummy. At best it makes it a Central/Southwestern Asian mummy. If the body is nothing but bones then there wouldn't be much to compare and if the bones are severely degraded, which is possible, then there is NO WAY to compare the two with a picture. cormac 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awlsew Posted August 24, 2019 #428 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Just now, cormac mac airt said: Actually no, it's NOT. Just because the Tarim Basin falls within modern China's border doesn't make that a "Chinese" mummy. At best it makes it a Central/Southwestern Asian mummy. If the body is nothing but bones then there wouldn't be much to compare and if the bones are severely degraded, which is possible, then there is NO WAY to compare the two with a picture. cormac We don't know that unless they open the tomb. Until then all we can do is speculate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted August 24, 2019 #429 Share Posted August 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Awlsew said: Riiight. It is too complex for us modern folk to figure out. We ain't smart enough today to handle such ancient structures(sarcasm) To do a proper job it would take exacting work to disassemble even a portion of the tomb and there is no way to know what state the inside is in or how long such a detailed excavation would take. It's certainly possible that even if an excavation started today it wouldn't answer any questions within your lifetime. Or would you prefer the Howard Vyse method of excavation, throw dynamite at it until you find what you're looking for and damn the consequences? cormac 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awlsew Posted August 24, 2019 #430 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Just now, cormac mac airt said: it wouldn't answer any questions within your lifetime.cormac The we will speculate. No worries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted August 24, 2019 #431 Share Posted August 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Awlsew said: We don't know that unless they open the tomb. Until then all we can do is speculate. Baseless speculation has no place in archaeology, especially where excavations are concerned. That's how we end up with idiots using dynamite to dig holes. cormac 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awlsew Posted August 24, 2019 #432 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 minute ago, cormac mac airt said: Baseless speculation has no place in archaeology, especially where excavations are concerned. That's how we end up with idiots using dynamite to dig holes. cormac This isn't about archaeology, it is about history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted August 24, 2019 #433 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Awlsew said: This isn't about archaeology, it is about history. In this case an archaeological excavation is how we'd find out so YES, this IS about archaeology even if indirectly. cormac 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted August 24, 2019 #434 Share Posted August 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Awlsew said: Man dude, I'm thinkin' that rim of yours is a bit tight, hat-wise 'course. (meant to be a one-liner joke, no offence meant) You know what they say about men with big heads *wink* *wink* *nudge* *nudge* 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted August 24, 2019 #435 Share Posted August 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Awlsew said: This isn't about archaeology, it is about cheese. Fixed that for you chief. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlookerofmayhem Posted August 24, 2019 #436 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Fact - Bananas are yellow. Fact - Taxi cabs are yellow. Opinion - Taxi cabs are made of bananas. 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted August 24, 2019 #437 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Just now, Sir Wearer of Hats said: You know what they say about men with big heads *wink* *wink* *nudge* *nudge* That's big FEET. cormac 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted August 24, 2019 #438 Share Posted August 24, 2019 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awlsew Posted August 24, 2019 #439 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 minute ago, onlookerofmayhem said: Fact - Bananas are yellow. Fact - Taxi cabs are yellow. Opinion - Taxi cabs are made of bananas. Taxis? Uber or walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awlsew Posted August 24, 2019 #440 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: Fixed that for you chief. Smile, and say chess, 16 v 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awlsew Posted August 24, 2019 #441 Share Posted August 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said: In this case an archaeological excavation is how we'd find out so YES, this IS about archaeology even if indirectly. cormac Ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred_mc Posted August 24, 2019 #442 Share Posted August 24, 2019 If the tomb is digged out now, people a hundred years into the future might say: "It's sad that it was digged out 100 years ago. With the primitive technology they had back then they destroyed so much.". 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted August 24, 2019 #443 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Just now, fred_mc said: If the tomb is digged out now, people a hundred years into the future might say: "It's sad that it was digged out 100 years ago. With the primitive technology they had back then they destroyed so much.". The way this rock is going, 100 years from now they’ll be asking why the **** we were wasting our time digging up graves and not attempting to stop the mass extinction event we have brewing in the bloody Amazon. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted August 24, 2019 #444 Share Posted August 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, fred_mc said: If the tomb is digged out now, people a hundred years into the future might say: "It's sad that it was digged out 100 years ago. With the primitive technology they had back then they destroyed so much.". That's always a possibility no matter how much one thinks they know about a dig site. cormac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awlsew Posted August 24, 2019 #445 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 minute ago, fred_mc said: If the tomb is digged out now, people a hundred years into the future might say: "It's sad that it was digged out 100 years ago. With the primitive technology they had back then they destroyed so much.". For the living so loved themselves, they gave their only begotton children so they could have the knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awlsew Posted August 24, 2019 #446 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Just now, cormac mac airt said: That's always a possibility no matter how much one thinks they know about a dig site. cormac If one isn't pulling energy out of the ground, then it is just a hobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted August 24, 2019 #447 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Just now, Awlsew said: If one isn't pulling energy out of the ground, then it is just a hobby It's more than a hobby for those who do the excavating. It's quite often their life and livelihood, especially where the larger sites are. Gobekli Tepe and Akrotiri are examples. cormac 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awlsew Posted August 24, 2019 #448 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 minute ago, cormac mac airt said: It's quite often their life and livelihood, cormac Yes. Must maintain current standards to keep the checks coming. The living are always more important than the dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted August 24, 2019 #449 Share Posted August 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Awlsew said: Yes. Must maintain current standards to keep the checks coming. The living are always more important than the dead. You don't appear to think much about archaeologists but think someone should just go ahead and excavate Qin Shi Huang's tomb anyway. Sounds rather hypocritical IMO. cormac 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awlsew Posted August 24, 2019 #450 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Just now, cormac mac airt said: You don't appear to think much about archaeologists but think someone should just go ahead and excavate Qin Shi Huang's tomb anyway. Sounds rather hypocritical IMO. cormac Hey if they excavate the tomb of Qin then more archeaologists would have jobs. Hello??? Damn dude you lost me there with 'archeaology is a livelihood' and then being opposed to digging the tomb of Qin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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