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Mausoleum of the First Qin Emperor solution?

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Kenemet
7 hours ago, Pettytalk said:

I'm informing you that in my opinion information is also an opinion, if you inform someone of your opinion.

Only if it's information about opinions.  We already had that.  So opinions about opinions have been discussed and we're discussing information instead.  In a discussion of fact, opinion unsupported by fact functions as noise instead of signal.

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Awlsew
13 hours ago, Hanslune said:

yet you did....lol

Nope. Nothing to win or lose.

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Awlsew
13 hours ago, Hanslune said:

of which you have NONE. That's my opinion and being an American it cannot be wrong...chuckle

Right or wrong has nothing to do with winning or losing.

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Piney
46 minutes ago, Kenemet said:

Only if it's information about opinions.  We already had that.  So opinions about opinions have been discussed and we're discussing information instead.  In a discussion of fact, opinion unsupported by fact functions as noise instead of signal.

Touche' :nw:

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Awlsew

Fact- Caucasian mummies have been found in China 

Fact - The current Chinese government hides historical events

Opinion - The current Chinese government will not allow the tomb of Qin because they are concerned the contents would not conform to their view of History.

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Piney
12 minutes ago, Awlsew said:

Fact- Caucasian mummies have been found in China 

Fact - The current Chinese government hides historical events

Opinion - The current Chinese government will not allow the tomb of Qin because they are concerned the contents would not conform to their view of History.

Fact- The Han were bias against the Iranian nomadic tribes, especially for their looks and certainly wouldn't let one rule

Fact- No document about Han philosophy or politics has been found written in Sogdian, Tocharian or Orkon.  

Fact- the Iranic tribes hated cities. Their shamanic religion was based around nomadism, war and the hunt.

Fact- There is a great distance between the Iranic Tribes and the center of Han Culture. 

Common sense- There was never a Iranic emperor. 

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Hanslune
2 hours ago, Awlsew said:

Right or wrong has nothing to do with winning or losing.

Then good but it is very odd you stated them as fact and got very upset you were asked to support your claims. Now you conceded the point but you STILL keep whining about it.

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Hanslune
2 hours ago, Awlsew said:

Fact - The current Chinese government hides historical events

Then why did they release the excavation reports in the first place?

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Harte
3 hours ago, Awlsew said:

Fact- Caucasian mummies have been found in China 

Fact - The current Chinese government hides historical events

Opinion - The current Chinese government will not allow the tomb of Qin because they are concerned the contents would not conform to their view of History.

Fact - The current Chinese government didn't hide the Caucasian mummies.

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Awlsew
Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, Hanslune said:

Then good but it is very odd you stated them as fact and got very upset you were asked to support your claims. Now you conceded the point but you STILL keep whining about it.

I have not got upset on here. I do not get upset.

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Awlsew
Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, Harte said:

Fact - The current Chinese government didn't hide the Caucasian mummies.

Harte

No, but they will not allow DNA or any other further testing on them.

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Awlsew
5 hours ago, Hanslune said:

Then why did they release the excavation reports in the first place?

The knowledege got out before they could stop it. 

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Sir Wearer of Hats
7 hours ago, Awlsew said:

Fact- Caucasian mummies have been found in China 

Fact - The current Chinese government hides historical events

Opinion - The current Chinese government will not allow the tomb of Qin because they are concerned the contents would not conform to their view of History.

Fact - Everything you just said reeks of racism.

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Piney
9 minutes ago, Awlsew said:

The knowledege got out before they could stop it. 

:lol:

Next Question

Why do they always ask us Smithsonian folks to go along for the ride? 

Is it because we are good at covering things up like red haired giants, Adena Atlanteans and Egyptians in the Grand Canyon? :whistle:

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Hanslune
38 minutes ago, Awlsew said:

I have not got upset on here. I do not get upset.

If you'd just stop whining about being wrong and your running from the question we can move on. Or do you want to pretend some more that you're aren't upset?

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cormac mac airt
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Harte:  Fact - The current Chinese government didn't hide the Caucasian mummies.

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Awlsew:  No, but they will not allow DNA or any other further testing on them.

If they didn't allow DNA testing then we wouldn't know there were members of mtDNA Haplogroups C, H and K which BTW ARE NOT Western European But Middle Eastern/Central Asian/Southwest Asian in origin.. 

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Awlsew
17 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

Fact - Everything you just said reeks of racism.

Can you explain further? Your statement is a little vague.

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Awlsew
3 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said:

If they didn't allow DNA testing then we wouldn't know there were members of mtDNA Haplogroups C, H and K which BTW ARE NOT Western European But Middle Eastern/Central Asian/Southwest Asian in origin.. 

cormac

I said further DNA testing, as in more.

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Hanslune
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41 minutes ago, Awlsew said:

The knowledege got out before they could stop it. 

That was pretty stupid of them considering the preparation and actual time spent at the sites went on for years. The reports were then cycled among scientists many whom were Chinese. In China archaeologist work for the state - and nobody got terribly upset then but YOU with a noticeable lack of information on the situation have decided that the knowledge 'just got out', when it was under their control for years.....and why again do they run a museum with those mummies on display again?

 

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Awlsew
3 minutes ago, Hanslune said:

....and why again do they run a museum with those mummies on display again?

 

Because the knowledge is already public.

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Awlsew
3 minutes ago, Hanslune said:

That was pretty stupid of them

That would be for them to decide.

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Hanslune
Just now, Awlsew said:

Because the knowledge is already public.

Then there no particular point in not adding more to it huh.

Has the idea come to you yet that you don't have a point? The evidence isn't particularly pointing in the direction your opinions want it to go.

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Awlsew
Just now, Hanslune said:

Then there no particular point in not adding more to it huh.

Has the idea come to you yet that you don't have a point? The evidence isn't particularly pointing in the direction your opinions want it to go.

It is my opinion that it does.

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Hanslune
2 minutes ago, Awlsew said:

That would be for them to decide.

Decide what? We've provided copious scientific evidence for 'x' to include papers, museums and given full access to Western sources for a number of years but now we are pretend we didn't do so.

What?

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cormac mac airt
3 minutes ago, Awlsew said:

I said further DNA testing, as in more.

What more do you need? MtDNA shows Middle Eastern/Central Asian/Southwestern Asian ancestry and Y Chromosome DNA shows Haplogroup R1a1 which is West Eurasian. NONE of theses are Western European. 

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