Still Waters Posted January 1, 2017 #1 Share Posted January 1, 2017 The sinking of the RMS Titanic may have been caused by an enormous fire on board, not by hitting an iceberg in the North Atlantic, experts have claimed, as new evidence has been published to support the theory. More than 1,500 passengers lost their lives when the Titanic sank on route to New York from Southampton in April 1912. While the cause of the disaster has long been attributed to the iceberg, fresh evidence has surfaced of a fire in the ship’s hull, which researchers say burned unnoticed for almost three weeks leading up to the collision. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/rms-titanic-evidence-fire-senan-molony-belfast-new-york-southampton-sink-april-1912-a7504236.html 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWoo7 Posted January 1, 2017 #2 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Maybe way, way, down there they were cooking for a party, sent somebody through the gauntlet of hallways and stairwells for a fire extinguisher up front but, by the time they got back someone had closed a few doors *ssssssssh it will go out eventually*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted January 1, 2017 #3 Share Posted January 1, 2017 I know the Indpendent's standards aren't what they were, but really. This Mr Maloney sounds like a lone obsessive doesn't he. I mean, the fact that this has never been mentioned before in any of the 12000 books written about the Titanic- but it was hushed up! Only the valiant indefatigable researcher Mr. Maloney knows the truth! Someone get him onto JFk please, I'd love to know what he comes up with there. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWoo7 Posted January 1, 2017 #4 Share Posted January 1, 2017 (edited) Well he might not be Baloney. *groan* check it:::: "potential to cause “serious explosions” below decks before it would reach New York." so they packed them on a b0\/\/\b. Edited January 1, 2017 by MWoo7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acute Posted January 1, 2017 #5 Share Posted January 1, 2017 I'm watching the documentary on Channel 4 (UK) now. Obviously you can catch up, or watch it on the +1 at 9pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWoo7 Posted January 1, 2017 #6 Share Posted January 1, 2017 So did they mention cooking labs or the heads/officials/owners etc. packing the people on a ..ah potentially volatile vessel ? Why are the best parts always skipped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Waters Posted January 1, 2017 Author #7 Share Posted January 1, 2017 14 hours ago, Grand Moff Tarkin said: I know the Indpendent's standards aren't what they were, but really. This news story has been published on more than a dozen different news sites. Google it and take your pick to find which one meets with your approval. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted January 1, 2017 #8 Share Posted January 1, 2017 I'm sure the story has been, but that isn't necessarily proof of its veracity, is it? What this theory depends on is that this has been kept secret for over a hundred years, and was never mentioned even at the official inquiry (or if tit was, it was hushed up(TM)). That surely is asking a bit much to believe. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Waters Posted January 2, 2017 Author #9 Share Posted January 2, 2017 13 hours ago, Grand Moff Tarkin said: I'm sure the story has been, but that isn't necessarily proof of its veracity, is it? Nobody said it was. I was replying to your comment chastising the source link. 14 hours ago, Grand Moff Tarkin said: I know the Indpendent's standards aren't what they were, but really. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted January 2, 2017 #10 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Probably a meth lab cook gone wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saru Posted January 2, 2017 #11 Share Posted January 2, 2017 14 hours ago, Grand Moff Tarkin said: I'm sure the story has been, but that isn't necessarily proof of its veracity, is it? That wasn't your argument though, you were implying that the story had no veracity because you didn't like the source link. 14 hours ago, Grand Moff Tarkin said: What this theory depends on is that this has been kept secret for over a hundred years, and was never mentioned even at the official inquiry (or if tit was, it was hushed up(TM)). That surely is asking a bit much to believe. Actually the fire was mentioned at the official inquiry and many times since, it was simply not deemed to be significant to the disaster. The difference now is that new evidence has linked the fire to the weakening of the Titanic's bulkheads. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saru Posted January 2, 2017 #12 Share Posted January 2, 2017 14 hours ago, acute said: I'm watching the documentary on Channel 4 (UK) now. Obviously you can catch up, or watch it on the +1 at 9pm. I watched the documentary as well, it was very interesting to say the least. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted January 2, 2017 #13 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Remarkable it was ever allowed to put to sea with a fire on board. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acute Posted January 2, 2017 #14 Share Posted January 2, 2017 3 hours ago, Saru said: I watched the documentary as well, it was very interesting to say the least. It all seemed to make sense, and it was genuine new information for once! It's pretty mind-blowing to think that the Titanic might have been on fire when it was launched in Belfast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geraldnewfie Posted January 2, 2017 #15 Share Posted January 2, 2017 fire, iceberg or not the boat wasnt even titanic, it was its sister ship that took damage and they swapped names of the boat, watch documentary about that online, it was an insurance scam, the biggest of its time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorg Posted January 2, 2017 #16 Share Posted January 2, 2017 6 minutes ago, geraldnewfie said: fire, iceberg or not the boat wasnt even titanic, it was its sister ship that took damage and they swapped names of the boat, watch documentary about that online, it was an insurance scam, the biggest of its time I saw a documentary on that, interesting to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badeskov Posted January 2, 2017 #17 Share Posted January 2, 2017 2 hours ago, geraldnewfie said: fire, iceberg or not the boat wasnt even titanic, it was its sister ship that took damage and they swapped names of the boat, watch documentary about that online, it was an insurance scam, the biggest of its time That is a joke, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolguy Posted January 3, 2017 #18 Share Posted January 3, 2017 There was also a rumor that a U boat sunk it, so iceberg, u boat we will never know the real story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted January 3, 2017 #19 Share Posted January 3, 2017 3 hours ago, coolguy said: There was also a rumor that a U boat sunk it, so iceberg, u boat we will never know the real story Two years before the war started? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted January 3, 2017 #20 Share Posted January 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, Grand Moff Tarkin said: Two years before the war started? Target practice. The Germans became quite proficient. I was surprised to learn that the heavily outnumbered German fleet's gunnery at the Battle of Jutland was superior to that of the Royal Navy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted January 3, 2017 #21 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Maybe it was practice for the Lusitania. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brlesq1 Posted January 3, 2017 #22 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Wow...that's just nuts. But given how business operates, then as now (anybody remember the Ford Pinto?) I can see them setting sail even if the ship was on fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.United_Nations Posted January 3, 2017 #23 Share Posted January 3, 2017 9 hours ago, coolguy said: There was also a rumor that a U boat sunk it, so iceberg, u boat we will never know the real story Nooo, Titanics sister ship got torpedod by u boat..get yr facts right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted January 3, 2017 #24 Share Posted January 3, 2017 There is a remarkable story of a nurse, Violet Jessop, who survived the sinkings of Titanic, and its sister ship Brittanic, and was on the third ship Olympic, when it collided with a warship. Incredible ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Willis Posted January 3, 2017 #25 Share Posted January 3, 2017 (edited) I watched the documentary, but found the explanation confusing. The researcher said he noticed on a photograph unusual marks on Titanic's hull, which he attributed to being scorch marks caused by the fire in the coal bunker. The scorch marks are above the water line - which is obvious, otherwise they couldn't be seen. He said these marks were indications that the hull had been weakened by the fire. However, Titanic was holed by the iceberg below the water line, which is why she sank. The allegedly weakened section of hull was above the water line, and not below. And in any case, if part of the hull below the water line was being heated by the fire, surely the icy cold water would have kept the metal cool, and hence maintained its integrity. I watched a much better explanation yesterday which said that, to cut costs, in many places iron rivets were used rather than steel rivets. These were demonstrated to be less than 60% as strong as steel, meaning they sheared when the iceberg hit the hull. Edited January 3, 2017 by Derek Willis 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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