Trump Inaguration

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36 minutes ago, Ashotep said:

They also remind of Hitlers brown shirts yet they compare Trump to Hitler and I should add Chicken Little, the sky is falling run for your life.

First of all I do not compare Mr. T. with Hitler in any kind but reading Hitlers speech held 1933 at the Sportpalast in Berlin and comparing it with the speech of Mr. T from Friday, its obvious that both speeches have some similarities in the message, the rhetoric and the aim as well.

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2 hours ago, Avatar Samantha Ai said:

Last April the Anti-Defamation League asked Trump not to use the phrase "America First".

http://www.adl.org/press-center/press-releases/anti-semitism-usa/adl-urges-donald-trump-to-reconsider-america-first.html?

Well he kept using it including during the inauguration.

David Duke whose website dukeforsenate features the slogan has also tweeted, "Trump Inauguration Speech Declares War on the Neocons & Promotes Our Slogan "America First!"

It is doubtful Trump cares or Netanyahu either for that matter. Although if push comes to shove they would likely disavow Duke.

It is not surprising that others found anti-Semitism within Trump's speech.

Time will tell where his heart is. Each can make up their own mind now or later.

Your mind is already concluded and are the more deluded. He's a lot more complex and tolerant than detractors give him credit for. He's neither judeophile nor judeophobe.          http://www.jta.org/2016/11/14/news-opinion/politics/meet-the-jews-in-donald-trumps-inner-circle

Edited January 21, 2017 by Hammerclaw

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I felt so much pride for my country yesterday. I watched almost the whole thing, all day, until I went to bed at 1 AM last night.

[+Hammerclaw]

1 hour ago, toast said:

First of all I do not compare Mr. T. with Hitler in any kind but reading Hitlers speech held 1933 at the Sportpalast in Berlin and comparing it with the speech of Mr. T from Friday, its obvious that both speeches have some similarities in the message, the rhetoric and the aim as well.

Well, they're both patriots albeit Herr Schicklgruber was a megalomaniac with delusions of godhood and an unabashed anti-Semite.  Trump compares more favorably to Teddy Roosevelt.

Edited January 21, 2017 by Hammerclaw

[Baz Dane]

As we look into the mind of one of the protesters, or as I like to call them ... The Walking Brain-Dead... we can see the correlations...

The Trigger???

Zombie pours a bowl of Lucky Charms... notices that only ONE marshmallow came out... is angry ... box says General Mills cereal on it ... "Wait!", the Zombie thinks to itself, "Trump's all about Generals, it's one of HIS Generals!!!" ... Said Zombie gets even angrier when it realizes that the one marshmallow in question is a rainbow one... "Trump did that to me on purpose!!! " it thinks to itself... Then...

"Trump's a racist homophobe!!!" ... "Down with Trump!!!" ... "Hillary for President!" ... *proceeds to smash storefront windows with a baseball bat*

I understand that the marshmallows are VERY important in a bowl of Lucky Charms, and I can even get a little testy if there's not enough, but these people are a bit much.

At least now I understand a little better about exactly how and why they were being offered coloring books, play-doe, and videos of puppies to comfort them and help them cope in their times of need and rampage.

But just give em' some more DAMNED! marshmallows would ya!

[Yamato]

4 hours ago, preacherman76 said:

I was just pointing out that when someone uses the term white, or black, or whatever, chances are you are about to hear some racists ****.

BTW there is nothing wrong with government making a business friendly environment. Especially if you are about free markets.

Oh I disagree if we're talking about this country today.  Unless you're talking about lowering taxes and getting out of the way, you're not talking about freer markets.   Now maybe there are some good things that can come from authoritarian control from above if we ignore the unintended consequences that also come with it, but let's call it what it is.  

The day this country grows a bean of sense on fiscal matters, you're the one who pays, and there'll be a cage waiting for you if you don't.   Whatever songs someone sang about better environments won't mean anything after your bills come due.   Nobody cares about fiscal sanity anymore because what's popular today is just platitudes attitudes and insults, I can't name one other who gives a **** about $9 trillion more debt in the next 10 years, it's now a sea of brainwashed liberal crickets calling other people liberals.  

In the free market, there is buying and selling at prices that buyers and sellers determine, not another gang of business geniuses in a white building we pay the salaries of to figure it out for us.   In a free market people pay their bills.   Buying something is goddamn buying something, it's not kicking it down the road till the kids get jobs to pay for it.   Loan me a million dollars a year for the rest of my life and my environment will be a lot more business friendly.   Can't do that though.  Gotta loan it to someone else and make us pay for it.

If there's an actual proposal on the table that makes a more business friendly environment, what is it?   Catering to the workers to the exclusion of employers, customers, stakeholders and taxpayers ain't it.  

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3 hours ago, Ashotep said:

All these far left groups claim they are going to keep protesting through Trumps entire term.  That is not going to end well if they keep physically attacking people and destroying property.

I watched a video once where a protestor actually said some people were going to have to die.

Yah, well....the Occupy Wallstreet-ers were going to stay until they got their way....how many of them are still camping out on the sidewalk? ; )

[Yamato]

When Wall Street plummets, protesters will be back in fashion.   They won't be the unemployed campers, debt bearing college students or mentally ill snowflakes, they'll be the protesters that matter.   The Occupy movement didn't even know what it was asking for, and in that regard they're no different from most voters.  

[Tatetopa]

13 hours ago, CrimsonKing said:

I honestly 100% believe Biden would have won,he seems to be blessed with "dumb luck" so to speak...He has said a lotta dumb s*** over the last 8 years but i vaguely remember any of it and none of it truely angered me as a citizen lol

Hillary...well...

Nailed it.

[Tatetopa]

2 hours ago, Hammerclaw said:

Trump compares more favorably to Teddy Roosevelt.

I will draw the line there. Roosevelt  led troops in battle, he didn't wish for a purple heart. He was born into wealth and fought against big business and monopoly control of major industries.  He started the Forest Service and National Parks and had to fight the timber barons to do it.  They wanted free access to our public lands.  He spent most of his life serving the United States in the best way he knew how.  You may disagree with how he did it.  Gen. Mattis is the only one in the Trump administration that compares to Theodore Roosevelt in integrity, bravery, self-sacrifice, and service to country. .  I am not saying Trump can't serve the country well, but his first 70 years has been devoted to serving himself.  Compare him to Roosevelt in four years and maybe he can stand a better chance.

[Four Winds]

12 hours ago, and then said:

And did you notice that no one apologized for it?  It's a freedom we enjoy here.  No one was forced to be there and from the looks of the crowd, most were completely okay with the reverence he showed.

I realize I am out numbered here, but I do believe in the separation of church and state and In my opinion, just my opinion, in no way should the swearing in of a president be shrouded in religion.

And for the record, Trump looked pretty darn bored during the religious intro, it sure didn't look like it meant anything to him.

Edited January 21, 2017 by Four Winds

[Lilly]

7 minutes ago, Four Winds said:

I realize I am out numbered here, but I do believe in the separation of church and state and In my opinion, just my opinion, in no way should the swearing in of a president be shrouded in religion.

And for the record, Trump looked pretty darn bored during the religious intro, it sure didn't look like it meant anything to him.

The swearing in of a United States President has always involved religion. As for Trump being bored...perhaps the look was more of somber fear? Nothing like that kind of responsibility to instill a bit of fear.

[Four Winds]

1 minute ago, Lilly said:

The swearing in of a United States President has always involved religion.

Yes it has and it will probably continue, pardon me if I don't agree with it.

[Four Winds]

9 minutes ago, Lilly said:

As for Trump being bored...perhaps the look was more of somber fear? Nothing like that kind of responsibility to instill a bit of fear.

That could be true, or maybe Trump does not buy into the Christian thing, just sat through the superfluous ceremony.

Edited January 21, 2017 by Four Winds

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12 hours ago, bee said:

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have a heart..!!

don't confuse the devastated '''''snowflakes''''' any further - jeeeez  

I don't think the transcript would do justice to the live delivery - he was word perfect with a mixture of genuine passion
and natural authority - - - -

he did a good job and even Obama said so (lip read ) - for all the differences between the two men politically Obama
could appreciate what it takes to go through that ceremony, hold your nerve and deliver a speech that will go down in history -

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...well passion was there and confidence. And if the producer and leed actor of 'The Apprentice' couldn't pull it off then no one could. ...deviating slightly,  fyi i also saw the whole pomp and pageantry on the telly. Never seen a presidential inauguration before. Very imperial. Fitting for the world's only super power. I particularly like the Obama send off on Marine 1 AND IVANKA (why i put that in cap's i'll never know ). Found the lack of attention he gave to his beautiful wife stark and cold. Some thing you'd expect from someone that only cared for himself and collected trophies. Back to the speech, he painted a gloomy picture about life in America. Drugs, no job's and corruption. Accusing his predecessors of inaction and corruption. If your American you'd be happy with the speech. If your Australian, British etc you'd be less so. It was a populous speech. The very same that got him into the White House. If you closed your eyes you would have thought he was still on the campaign trail. I guess Trump's speech's are like his choice of tie... only has one. 

Edited January 21, 2017 by Captain Risky

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2 hours ago, Tatetopa said:

I will draw the line there. Roosevelt  led troops in battle, he didn't wish for a purple heart. He was born into wealth and fought against big business and monopoly control of major industries.  He started the Forest Service and National Parks and had to fight the timber barons to do it.  They wanted free access to our public lands.  He spent most of his life serving the United States in the best way he knew how.  You may disagree with how he did it.  Gen. Mattis is the only one in the Trump administration that compares to Theodore Roosevelt in integrity, bravery, self-sacrifice, and service to country. .  I am not saying Trump can't serve the country well, but his first 70 years has been devoted to serving himself.  Compare him to Roosevelt in four years and maybe he can stand a better chance.

Yes, he's also been compared to Andrew Jackson, not for any of the above, but for his bombastic  political style and push for change. Obama neither served nor had much experience in political office and was awarded a Nobel Peace medal for nothing, after which he proceeded to slay his thousands, as well. I said nothing original about Trump only repeated comments from the media.

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59 minutes ago, Four Winds said:

That could be true, or maybe Trump does not buy into the Christian thing, just sat through the superfluous ceremony.

I just think he has a permanent case of resting b**** face. Not sure he's even aware of it.

[Merc14]

39 minutes ago, Captain Risky said:

...well passion was there and confidence. And if the producer and leed actor of 'The Apprentice' couldn't pull it off then no one could. ...deviating slightly,  fyi i also saw the whole pomp and pageantry on the telly. Never seen a presidential inauguration before. Very imperial. Fitting for the world's only super power. I particularly like the Obama send off on Marine 1 AND IVANKA (why i put that in cap's i'll never know ).

You mention, with derision, his TV gig but failed to mention the billions he made in real estate development.  Why?

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Found the lack of attention he gave to his beautiful wife stark and cold. Some thing you'd expect from someone that only cared for himself and collected trophies. 

Really?  How very odd because most of teh media here and everyone I know thought he was very loving t o his wife,m holding her hand, always deferring to her etc. except when the ceremony demanded he stand along.  

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Back to the speech, he painted a gloomy picture about life in America. Drugs, no job's and corruption. Accusing his predecessors of inaction and corruption.

Obama has devastated the country and someone needs to call him on it since the media refuses to acknowledge that fact.   Eight years of a GDP that never went above 3% (a first in US history), never ending record unemployment hidden by manipulation of the numbers, a doubling of the debt with absolutely nothing to show for it, 8 years of perpetual war, another first for a US president, a bureaucracy that is out of control and legislating through regulation, a corrupt Dept. of Justice and race relations at their worst in 40 years.  It is indeed a very bleak situation thanks to leftist policies for the last 20 years (Bush is guilty as well).

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If your American you'd be happy with the speech. If your Australian, British etc you'd be less so. It was a populous speech. The very same that got him into the White House. If you closed your eyes you would have thought he was still on the campaign trail. I guess Trump's speech's are like his choice of tie... only has one. 

America is a government for the people and by the people and it has been taken over by a massive and incompetent federal government pushing us towards socialism light.   The destruction of the democrat party is America's answer to a progressive agenda, and make no mistake, Obama has devastated the democrat party.   On top of losing over a thousand federal, state and local seats they will lose the SCOTUS as trump will likely select the next two justices.. 

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1 hour ago, Four Winds said:

That could be true, or maybe Trump does not buy into the Christian thing, just sat through the superfluous ceremony.

Yes i agree. Stoic is a word that comes to mind. The only enthusiastic reaction i could see from Trump was during the religious part of the presidential 'coronation' at the mention of friends and allies by the rabbi. I expect Israel will be very well cared for. 

Edited January 21, 2017 by Captain Risky

[skliss]

"Found the lack of attention he gave to his beautiful wife stark and cold"

I actually thought the way he always knew where she was, looked to her,  whispered stuff to her and held her hand most of the time very attentive. While she is graceful and beautiful she seemed very nervous. It's been reported many times that while she never asked for any of this and she prefers a quiet life she stands by him and does her best. 

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3 minutes ago, Merc14 said:

You mention, with derision, his TV gig but failed to mention the billions he made in real estate development.  Why?

I was being kind and gracious to Trump and his supporters, that's why. 

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Just now, skliss said:

"Found the lack of attention he gave to his beautiful wife stark and cold"

I actually thought the way he always knew where she was, looked to her,  whispered stuff to her and held her hand most of the time very attentive. While she is graceful and beautiful she seemed very nervous. It's been reported many times that while she never asked for any of this and she prefers a quiet life she stands by him and does her best. 

Maybe that's just me. Even at the inaugural ball he looked stiff and looked as if he'd be happier somewhere else other than with his wife. Until the Sinatra song 'i did it my way' was played i thought he was going to die of boredom. As far as i could ascertain It was his moment and he wasn't going to share it with anyone.  

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19 minutes ago, Merc14 said:

Really?  How very odd because most of teh media here and everyone I know thought he was very loving t o his wife,m holding her hand, always deferring to her etc. except when the ceremony demanded he stand along.  

That's what i got outta it. Maybe i read too much into it with my preconceived ideas of Trump. I don't know. It's just my observation and by no way should it be yours. For all we know he might be the best possible husband. But 3 beautiful wives that he ends up divorcing as soon as they show signs of ageing lend me to believe that he views marriage more like a business deal than anything romantic. He loves his kids. That's evident and i guess that's just as important in showing what a good man he probably is. 

Edited January 21, 2017 by Captain Risky

[Merc14]

8 minutes ago, Captain Risky said:

Maybe that's just me. Even at the inaugural ball he looked stiff and looked as if he'd be happier somewhere else other than with his wife. Until the Sinatra song 'i did it my way' was played i thought he was going to die of boredom. As far as i could ascertain It was his moment and he wasn't going to share it with anyone.  

Well when you look at someone with a jaundiced eye you tend see things negatively.   Its human nature and I am guilty of it as well when it comes to the Clintons and Obamas

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7 hours ago, bee said:

 

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If this anti democratic, childish nonsense is going to go on and on --- perhaps anyone arrested where law and order breaks
down should be fined very heavily to cover the costs of the policing..?... this might discourage enough of them so the real trouble
makers can be nailed and jailed...?

at some point will the Obamas and Clintons and the celebrities and the Hollywood lot etc etc stand together and publically
appeal for it to calm down..to accept the election result and move on....?

or are they secretly loving it ?

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They're doing more than loving it, bee.  When O Barry returns from his golf vacation, he will begin his new role as a "president" in exile.  He's actually going to lead the resistance.  Guaranteed.  My guess is that this ends with street fighting in the major cities and possibly ALL the cities in the country.  We are in uncharted territory.