Protesting for what?

[Claire.]

10 minutes ago, AdealJustice said:

really? those are satirical posts. vs the posts where men are actually being stereotyped and insulted. You analysis is pretty shallow and one sided. 

Even satire reaches a point where it is no longer funny.

[AdealJustice]

Just now, Claire. said:

Even satire reaches a point where it is no longer funny.

this is subjective. to you it wasn't funny but I'm afraid to others it was. hey just curious, above the stars on your profile it says coddled snow flake, is that an actual UM title?? was just curious. thanks!

[AdealJustice]

2 minutes ago, Lilly said:

Ha, ha, very funny.

No, I had the capital from a lifetime of hard work that I chose to invest very carefully (technologies, energy, pharmaceuticals primarily). The bottoming out just gave me the chance to make a move that paid off in the end. Most people did not find themselves in such a fortunate position. Oh, and I could say I'm just 'heller smart' but that might be a tad of an exaggeration (but just a tad).

I hope to make your styled decisions when I have saved a life time of hard work up xD. that's awesome.

[Jarocal]

26 minutes ago, Kismit said:

I could intervietw for a job in construction and have the guy get it 9/10 over me. I could have my mother in law walk in the house and make gentle remarks about the washing to me, after a 10 hour shift, while her son was home all day. Or remark on my little job or how my working for money is just being greedy I should be home with the children. Because I have a vagina. Cultural conditioning. It's what is allowing so many people to get away with poo-pooing the protesters. 

When people are angry they always have legitimate feelings and reasons for it. You may not agrer with them but you can not deny their legitimacy.

1) That's because 9/10 of those construction companies view only the potential negatives. Women on construction crews can boost productivity of the male workers around them who for whatever reason would feel shamed to be outworked by a woman.

2) Ignore the Mother in Law but you really should get him into remedial training to ensure a hot meal is waiting and all housework is done by the time you get home.

 

[Lilly]

2 minutes ago, AdealJustice said:

they are respected. Unless you have quantifiable statistics on respect the claim is an empty one.

And yes western women are privileged. Higher secondary education rates, better job opportunities, higher life expectancies , better quality of jobs... I'm not a fan of modern feminism but plenty of these feminist blogger types have written articles of western privilege lol.  Self cannibalizing movement lol

Women earn about 79 cent on the dollar that men earn. When it's dollar for dollar I'll say we're 'privileged' at that point.

[Claire.]

1 minute ago, AdealJustice said:

this is subjective. to you it wasn't funny but I'm afraid to others it was. hey just curious, above the stars on your profile it says coddled snow flake, is that an actual UM title?? was just curious. thanks!

It's not an actual UM title, but I was called a coddled snowflake so much it kinda stuck.

[Careful_perspective]

7 minutes ago, Kismit said:

Again why are the woman's job not as important? Why are their interests less important? 

I personally don't think they are less important. But just because I view them as equally important doesn't mean they should be paid the same. Unfortunately, the bulk of women don't choose to go into the professions that some feminists would like them to. Even though women have every option available to them, many just don't choose to pursue, for example, skilled-labor type jobs. Demand sets the amount paid for jobs. A lot of women prefer humanities over engineering. There is more of a demand for engineers than sociologists. 

[AdealJustice]

2 minutes ago, Lilly said:

Women earn about 79 cent on the dollar that men earn. When it's dollar for dollar I'll say we're 'privileged' at that point.

you do realize that the 79 cent on the dollar claim has been debunked like 129381048109 amount of times. Even feminist Christina Hoff Summers debunked it , she's a 2nd wave feminist who was literally thrown an incredible amount of sexist hateful comments by modern feminists for explaining wage discrepancies.  There are so many variables..


 

Edited January 25, 2017 by AdealJustice

[Kismit]

Just now, AdealJustice said:

they are respected. Unless you have quantifiable statistics on respect the claim is an empty one.

And yes western women are privileged. Higher secondary education rates, better job opportunities, higher life expectancies , better quality of jobs... I'm not a fan of modern feminism but plenty of these feminist blogger types have written articles of western privilege lol.  Self cannibalizing movement lol

That's awesome that western woman are allowed those things. It's great how we can all pat our selves on the back and claim equality. Women are even allowed to vote now (quietly) or be ruled a feminist (nasty). Don't use your education to write anything controversial, your stepping on mans territory there. 

^^^^^there's your example of a conversation where female opression is prevalent. I bet you didnt even mean to do it. It just happened. It's the way we are brought up to behave. Cultural conditioning.

[.ZZ.]

3 minutes ago, AdealJustice said:

this is subjective. to you it wasn't funny but I'm afraid to others it was. hey just curious, above the stars on your profile it says coddled snow flake, is that an actual UM title?? was just curious. thanks!

None of my business, but after reaching 1000 posts you can change it.

[Lilly]

I just found myself mumbling "I'm glad I'm not married". I can't imagine why? LOL

[Careful_perspective]

2 minutes ago, Lilly said:

Women earn about 79 cent on the dollar that men earn. When it's dollar for dollar I'll say we're 'privileged' at that point.

I don't know if that is entirely true. 

I suggest you read this article if you have the time:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/karinagness/2016/04/12/dont-buy-into-the-gender-pay-gap-myth/#4a56984b4766

[Kismit]

8 minutes ago, Jarocal said:

1) That's because 9/10 of those construction companies view only the potential negatives. Women on construction crews can boost productivity of the male workers around them who for whatever reason would feel shamed to be outworked by a woman.

2) Ignore the Mother in Law but you really should get him into remedial training to ensure a hot meal is waiting and all housework is done by the time you get home.

 

He is in constant training.  And he is great considering the pressure his family put him through to not help out.

Edited January 25, 2017 by Kismit

[Vorg]

On 1/22/2017 at 2:42 AM, Lemieux said:

Sorry to burst the uninformed's little bubble, but Saudi Arabia is NOT our "close partner" and we in the West(not just the U.S.) do NOT share common interests with them.

What?? They sent 19 Ambassadors over on 9/11. Wait, those were terrorist, sorry.

[Careful_perspective]

Just now, Kismit said:

He is in constant training.  And he is great considering the pressure his family put him through to not help out.

I have to say, I know you are joking and probably have a loving and respect driven relationship with your husband, but that made me think of something.

Women are prone to double standards, but men are too. Look at most of the food/housewares type commercials out there. They feature a dumb, doofy father who does something clueless while his more informed wife laughs on then guides him in the right direction. 

For example:

 

[AdealJustice]

2 minutes ago, Kismit said:

That's awesome that western woman are allowed those things. It's great how we can all pat our selves on the back and claim equality. Women are even allowed to vote now (quietly) or be ruled a feminist (nasty). Don't use your education to write anything controversial, your stepping on mans territory there. 

Honestly you come across as incredibility jaded. Its not a claim of equality. IT IS EQUALITY .

2 minutes ago, Kismit said:

Don't use your education to write anything controversial,

you can but you are open to a world of critique just as any human is. unless you want women to be totally exempt from any critique LOLLLLL

 

[AdealJustice]

1 minute ago, Rinna said:

I have to say, I know you are joking and probably have a loving and respect driven relationship with your husband, but that made me think of something.

Women are prone to double standards, but men are too. Look at most of the food/housewares type commercials out there. They feature a dumb, doofy father who does something clueless while his more informed wife laughs on then guides him in the right direction. 

For example:

 

THANK -YOU

[Kismit]

1 minute ago, Rinna said:

I have to say, I know you are joking and probably have a loving and respect driven relationship with your husband, but that made me think of something.

Women are prone to double standards, but men are too. Look at most of the food/housewares type commercials out there. They feature a dumb, doofy father who does something clueless while his more informed wife laughs on then guides him in the right direction. 

For example:

 

An excellent example of cultural conditioning on both parts. Did you notice the subject the woman where discussing?

[Careful_perspective]

Just now, Kismit said:

An excellent example of cultural conditioning on both parts. Did you notice the subject the woman where discussing?

Yep, diet culture! Another one of my favorites.

[Kismit]

6 minutes ago, AdealJustice said:

Honestly you come across as incredibility jaded. Its not a claim of equality. IT IS EQUALITY .

you can but you are open to a world of critique just as any human is. unless you want women to be totally exempt from any critique LOLLLLL

 

And public scrutiny is fine.

Tell me what is the equivalent term for a male feminist? I'm asking honestly because I have never seen a male journalist critiqued on what ever that quality is.

Edited January 25, 2017 by Kismit

[acidhead]

4 minutes ago, Kismit said:

 

Tell me what is the equivalent term for a male feminist?

A lefty cuckhold or a Justin Trudeau

Edited January 25, 2017 by acidhead

[AdealJustice]

3 minutes ago, Kismit said:

And public scrutiny is fine.

Tell me what is the equivalent term for a male feminist? I have never sern a male journalist critiqued on what ever that quality is.

I think its MRA. but I'm not sure. You have never seen a male journalist critiqued? . I see both male and female journalists critiqued on just about everything. humans in general critique each other for literally everything xD

sorry I think I mixed that up* did you want the equivalent of a males rights activist? Or a title for a male feminist? just want to clarify.

Edited January 25, 2017 by AdealJustice

[CrimsonKing]

Woooo i'm not going to get tied into this kinda convo again (we've already had it many times on UM)

But i do want to bring up the issue that went down in late November about the USMC not requiring women to do as much as their male counterparts to pass physically...

I was assured on here that if women are held to the same standard requirements than none should complain,and if they weren't the equality group would speak out about it!Well...

That never happened and as it was repeated on the news several days straight,plastered on the net news sections,and even in my local newspaper i was astounded by not one single mention here in the UM politics section!I mean Trump can fart and it's worthy of its own thread...

I guarantee if that story read as "women now required to do 5 more pullups in training than men to prove equal fitness and strength" the equality brigade woulda been all over it! 

[AdealJustice]

17 minutes ago, .ZZ. said:

None of my business, but after reaching 1000 posts you can change it.

lol I had no idea! thanks!

[Kismit]

 

4 minutes ago, acidhead said:

A lefty cuckhold

I wanted to hide that as it just scraped through the rules. Must say it's the only time I've ever seen that used and feel it's woefully inacurate.

3 minutes ago, AdealJustice said:

I think its MRA. but I'm not sure. You have never seen a male journalist critiqued? . I see both male and female journalists critiqued on just about everything. humans in general critique each other for literally everything xD

sorry I think I mixed that up* did you want the equivalent of a males rights activist? Or a title for a male feminist? just want to clarify.

oh you twisty little thing you.

You know I wanted the name for a male activist. It's a term that never seems to be used when evaluating controversial material. Unlike the dertogatory use of the term feminist.

Why is that?