Protesting for what?

[ellapenella]

1 hour ago, aztek said:

regardless of the reason, generation is wasted. 

It's true & it's sad. It's been like how many years they've been uprising. Good thing Trump moves fast on getting things done,workaholic lol the man doesn't stop working, does he? I don't think so.

[ellapenella]

1 hour ago, Dredimus said:

So... does anyone know what they were actually protesting?

Society seem to have gotten more violent and ill over the last, what? 30 yrs or so?

[Farmer77]

Just now, Ellapennella said:

Society seem to have gotten more violent and ill over the last, what? 30 yrs or so?

 IDK not according to this guy:        The world is actually becoming more peaceful — believe it or not 

 

[ellapenella]

2 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

 IDK not according to this guy:        The world is actually becoming more peaceful — believe it or not 

 

More specifically, places in America were once safer. Society has become less American.

[spartan max2]

15 minutes ago, Ellapennella said:

Society seem to have gotten more violent and ill over the last, what? 30 yrs or so?

That's not true by any statisitcal measure.

It's just yo ur perception that has changed.

Probaby due to media coverage 

Edited January 26, 2017 by spartan max2

[ellapenella]

 

[Farmer77]

 

[aztek]

idk, i  grew up in coney island, it was very different place 30 years ago, a lot more gangs, shooting stabbing, i do not remember it but my mother tells me 40 years ago Brighton beach was a getto, crime\drug ridden place, ever since russian jews started moving there, it turned 180*.  

 

[ellapenella]

7 minutes ago, Ellapennella said:

 

So, this was the first time I seen and listened to this song&video, these lyrics really speak out.

Beyond the boundaries of your city's lights
Stand the heroes waiting for your cries
So many times you did not bring this on yourself
When the moment finally comes, I'll be there to help

And on that day, when you need your brothers and sisters to care
I'll be right here

Citizen soldiers
Holding the light for the ones that we guide from the dark of despair
Standing on guard for the ones that we've sheltered
We'll always be ready because we will always be there

When they're people crying in the streets
When they're starving for a meal to eat
When they simply need a place to make their beds
Right here underneath my wing, you can rest your head

On that day, when you need your brothers and sisters to care
I'll be right here

Citizen soldiers
Holding the light for the ones that we guide from the dark of despair
Standing on guard for the ones that we've sheltered
We'll always be ready because we will always be there

 

Hope and pray, that you never need me
But rest assured I will not let you down
I walk beside you, but you may not see me
The strongest among you may not wear a crown
Citizen soldier

On that day when you need your brothers and sisters to care
I'll be right here
On that day when you don't have the strength for the burden you bear
I'll be right here

Citizen soldiers
Holding the light for the ones that we guide from the dark of despair
Standing on guard for the ones that we've sheltered
We'll always be ready because we will always be there

Citizen soldiers
Holding the light for the ones that we guide from the dark of despair
Standing on guard for the ones that we've sheltered
We'll always be ready because we will always be there
 

[ellapenella]

I was surprised to have seen 3 Doors Down perform for President Trump's inauguration.

[ellapenella]

14 minutes ago, aztek said:

idk, i  grew up in coney island, it was very different place 30 years ago, a lot more gangs, shooting stabbing, i do not remember it but my mother tells me 40 years ago Brighton beach was a getto, crime\drug ridden place, ever since russian jews started moving there, it turned 180*.  

 

yeah, it's everywhere. We've relocated 3 times trying to move away from a declining community. We're in a pretty nice location but still crime is everywhere.America deserves better.

[Skulduggery]

Who here lived through the American Revolutionary War? If anyone would rather side with fat billionaires over their family, friends and neighbors who feel the need to protest or march, be my guest. Me, I think it's touching to see this happen and would encourage much more mayhem in the name of dissent. The will of the people.

[Stubbly_Dooright]

2 hours ago, Ellapennella said:

There's a difference between unhealthy perversion &  healthy natural affection and love .

Yes, that's true, but I do believe Madonna freed the perceptions of women and how they are perceived in a healthy manner. I thank her for slow erosion of the 'double standard' that seemed to separate the differences of men and women and their obligations of their gender and their behavior. Today, it seems it is natural to have the same sexual desires as a woman, the same as a man, not perceived as a ****. I feel she freed women from the frustrations of a particular gender identity that was frustrating and imprisoning at the same time. Both men and women fart, smell, burp, but if women let go in the past, they were freaks. Today, they are human, just as much as men. I still think we have a long way to go, but I think Madonna proved that we can be just as human as men and not get the ramifications that we received in the past. 

You want to talk about what is unhealthy? The idea you were not allowed to enjoy sex, or instigate it with your partner, and feel that breaking out of the perceived notion that the only thing women were good for were to marry, bear children, and clean house, can be very unhealthy when women, just as men, can be anything they put their minds to. 

This whole march, and yes as others have said happened the whole world over, was to show that issues that held back women, ( and other groups) are still evident today. I'm sorry, it still p***ES ME OFF that women are not paid as much as men. We do the same job. I don't want to hear about the fact of time off for pregnancy. And I like to see a man go through pregnancy and think it's a piece a cake. 

Domestic violence is still an issue, and still more suffer from it. And like one particular female senator said at the march, the women's issues are the issues of men. The issues of foreign policy, domestic policy, education, economics, and women should be taken seriously when they feel it's their business too. 

What's going on with women still in this world today, I feel is UNHEALTHY!

And besides, sexual activities outlook varies from point of view to point of view. 

Rape, on the other hand, I think is unhealthy. Marital rape was something that wasn't a concern for most of the populace years ago. There are still arranged (and underage) marriages in the world, (here in the U.S.) 

Yeah, I see the differences between unhealthy perversion and healthy natural affection. I see it quite clearly. 

I don't think Trump will do all the things some are saying, but his words, whether to be seriously or not, still is something that should discouraged from any character. His ideals, now the ideals of the President of the United States, have been known, and it's is very concerning. 

I thank Madonna for opening the door for me to be comfortable in being human and not some unattainable china doll. 

[Stubbly_Dooright]

18 hours ago, Rinna said:

It suddenly just occurred to me that I didn't exactly lay out the biggest reason I disagree with the Women's march. 

The march wasn't about Trump taking away rights, because never once has he advocated for taking away women's rights. (Now before someone mentions abortion, all he can do is put justices in place to overturn Roe V. Wade which would return abortion back to a state by state basis.) This was about women disagreeing with Trump, and who he is. I don't think it is acceptable to accuse someone of wanting to rob your human rights because they have a different political ideology. 

 

As I said earlier, I don't believe Trump will do that. And I have come to a conclusion he is not all that against women's rights, considering his daughter is very much a business woman herself and helping him. He has a woman in charge of his compaign, right? I know, if he felt women should be stuck in the home, he wouldn't have all these women out in the business world that I have noticed. 

But, his words have caused an effect, I believe. And in some part of my mind, I think it's very telling how he views women from what he has said. 

I also feel, it's not outright accusing going on, but fear of how the rest of the world and those around him might be encouraged to do, from what he has said. 

[Farmer77]

3 minutes ago, Stubbly_Dooright said:

 

I also feel, it's not outright accusing going on, but fear of how the rest of the world and those around him might be encouraged to do, from what he has said. 

Ya know when the talk about that happening started I dismissed it but damn , i have heard more stupid people aggressively voicing stupid and or offensive opinions since november than I had the entire previous decade. 

[Careful_perspective]

4 minutes ago, Stubbly_Dooright said:

As I said earlier, I don't believe Trump will do that. And I have come to a conclusion he is not all that against women's rights, considering his daughter is very much a business woman herself and helping him. He has a woman in charge of his compaign, right? I know, if he felt women should be stuck in the home, he wouldn't have all these women out in the business world that I have noticed. 

But, his words have caused an effect, I believe. And in some part of my mind, I think it's very telling how he views women from what he has said. 

I also feel, it's not outright accusing going on, but fear of how the rest of the world and those around him might be encouraged to do, from what he has said. 

I think what he said is disgusting, and I wish he had never said it. But I don't think he's a bad person or a mysogonist. I think he made careless remarks and that is why I dislike this march. His careless remarks don't mean he is planning to strip women of their rights. 

[Stubbly_Dooright]

Just now, Farmer77 said:

Ya know when the talk about that happening started I dismissed it but damn , i have heard more stupid people aggressively voicing stupid and or offensive opinions since november than I had the entire previous decade. 

Much I am really unhappy of Trump winning the election, I do feel so much has been bumped up in point of views from him, for him, either positive or negative. I think there has been a lot of quick behaviors, and I do feel we all need to step back and take a breath. 

[Farmer77]

1 minute ago, Rinna said:

I think what he said is disgusting, and I wish he had never said it. But I don't think he's a bad person or a mysogonist. I think he made careless remarks and that is why I dislike this march. His careless remarks don't mean he is planning to strip women of their rights. 

Which careless remarks though? Its not like its a one time oops, he has a lifetime of publicly saying stupidly mean and sexist things. Honestly I dont even believe hes truly sexist in a harmful way but comeon the dude's a trainwreck in that department. 

[Stubbly_Dooright]

2 minutes ago, Rinna said:

I think what he said is disgusting, and I wish he had never said it. But I don't think he's a bad person or a mysogonist. I think he made careless remarks and that is why I dislike this march. His careless remarks don't mean he is planning to strip women of their rights. 

I agree. And yes, the timing of the march is no coincidence. But I feel, nevertheless, there are these situations that do exist and yes need to be worked at for the positive for women. The world over in fact. And as I just said to Farmer, I do see a lot of jumping the gun too. 

The thing is, Trump and what he has said, may have been the last straw to issues that needed airing out a long time ago. 

[Careful_perspective]

Just now, Farmer77 said:

Which careless remarks though? Its not like its a one time oops, he has a lifetime of publicly saying stupidly mean and sexist things. Honestly I dont even believe hes truly sexist in a harmful way but comeon the dude's a trainwreck in that department. 

There are more careless remarks than I would like, for sure. I just am not as personally offended by crass remarks as a lot of women seem to be? Yes they are disgusting but they don't diminish my support. 

[Stubbly_Dooright]

1 minute ago, Farmer77 said:

Which careless remarks though? Its not like its a one time oops, he has a lifetime of publicly saying stupidly mean and sexist things. Honestly I dont even believe hes truly sexist in a harmful way but comeon the dude's a trainwreck in that department. 

Well, in my opinion, that's just it, his past history doesn't seem like the type that one would consider for the POTUS. Then again, I'm sure there's no 'he didn't inhale' situations in his past.  

[Farmer77]

1 minute ago, Rinna said:

There are more careless remarks than I would like, for sure. I just am not as personally offended by crass remarks as a lot of women seem to be? Yes they are disgusting but they don't diminish my support. 

From my male perspective (which of course means im wrong) it seems its the whole big picture which is the problem not just isolated incidents. 

[Stubbly_Dooright]

1 minute ago, Rinna said:

There are more careless remarks than I would like, for sure. I just am not as personally offended by crass remarks as a lot of women seem to be? Yes they are disgusting but they don't diminish my support. 

Well, I wouldn't dismiss those who have been offended. We all need to be considerate, my feelings mind you. 

[Thorvir]

47 minutes ago, Skulduggery said:

Who here lived through the American Revolutionary War? If anyone would rather side with fat billionaires over their family, friends and neighbors who feel the need to protest or march, be my guest. Me, I think it's touching to see this happen and would encourage much more mayhem in the name of dissent. The will of the people.

Except that's not why the protests are happening.  You're as uninformed as the protesters are.

[Careful_perspective]

10 minutes ago, Stubbly_Dooright said:

Well, I wouldn't dismiss those who have been offended. We all need to be considerate, my feelings mind you. 

I don't dismiss them, I dismiss those in the march who deemed this as a fight for human rights like the females in this country are under attack. I don't believe they are. They have the right to feel dislike toward him, but it's wrong to equate his careless comments to someone who wants to take away rights.