Baz Dane Posted January 29, 2017 Author #526 Share Posted January 29, 2017 On 1/27/2017 at 10:12 AM, Sweetpumper said: Muslim Women’s March Organizer Attacks Female Genital Mutilation Survivor Hirsi Ali: I Would Take Her ‘Vagina Away’ Sarsour is the same woman who tweeted one of the most vile attacks on a woman in the history of Twitter http://www.infowars.com/muslim-womens-march-organizer-attacks-female-genital-mutilation-survivor-hirsi-ali-i-would-take-her-vagina-away/ Idiots. 1 hour ago, ChaosRose said: Says the person using infowars as a "source." Oh, the irony. Perhaps Linda Sarsour's Tweet itself is a better source?... https://web.archive.org/web/20170126232816/https:/twitter.com/lsarsour/status/45297251513401344 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted January 29, 2017 #527 Share Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) President Donald Trump's decision to reorganize the National Security Council in a way that removes the director of intelligence and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff from always attending the principals' committee is "stone cold crazy," former National Security Adviser Susan Rice said Sunday. Rice, President Barack Obama's national security adviser, was reacting to an executive order signed by Trump that said that the head of DNI and the nation's most senior military officer would be invited to attend the security meetings "where issues pertaining to their responsibilities and expertise are to be discussed." In contrast, Trump's order makes his chief strategist, Stephen Bannon, a regular member of the Principals Committee. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=5&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiCqJ7om-jRAhVlrVQKHSVaAygQqQIINigAMAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F2017%2F01%2F29%2Fpolitics%2Fsusan-rice-steve-bannon%2F&usg=AFQjCNHBsRBf1Ty5LBQ4yqdeleW8-uEEjg&sig2=JiVZmUuHrStJotsg00UWhA Yeah, I agree with the assertion that this is "stone cold crazy." Sure...let's take the director of intelligence and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff out of it...and let the Nazi have a go. Better yet, take the president out of it and let the vice president worry about that stuff. I mean...he's busy "Making America Great™." What could possibly go wrong? Are we still wondering what there is to protest? Edited January 29, 2017 by ChaosRose 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer77 Posted January 29, 2017 #528 Share Posted January 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, ChaosRose said: President Donald Trump's decision to reorganize the National Security Council in a way that removes the director of intelligence and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff from always attending the principals' committee is "stone cold crazy," former National Security Adviser Susan Rice said Sunday. Rice, President Barack Obama's national security adviser, was reacting to an executive order signed by Trump that said that the head of DNI and the nation's most senior military officer would be invited to attend the security meetings "where issues pertaining to their responsibilities and expertise are to be discussed." In contrast, Trump's order makes his chief strategist, Stephen Bannon, a regular member of the Principals Committee. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=5&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiCqJ7om-jRAhVlrVQKHSVaAygQqQIINigAMAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F2017%2F01%2F29%2Fpolitics%2Fsusan-rice-steve-bannon%2F&usg=AFQjCNHBsRBf1Ty5LBQ4yqdeleW8-uEEjg&sig2=JiVZmUuHrStJotsg00UWhA Yeah, I agree with the assertion that this is "stone cold crazy." Sure...let's take the director of intelligence and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff out of it...and let the Nazi have a go. Better yet, take the president out of it and let the vice president worry about that stuff. I mean...he's busy "Making America Great™." What could possibly go wrong? Are we still wondering what there is to protest? There is plenty to trash Bannon over without going the Nazi route. If the opposition is going to be taken seriously at all theyve gotta stop using hyperbolic terms like that 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted January 29, 2017 #529 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Just now, Farmer77 said: There is plenty to trash Bannon over without going the Nazi route. If the opposition is going to be taken seriously at all theyve gotta stop using hyperbolic terms like that When someone publishes stories about "renegade Jews," they earn that title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer77 Posted January 29, 2017 #530 Share Posted January 29, 2017 5 minutes ago, ChaosRose said: When someone publishes stories about "renegade Jews," they earn that title. Dear god , I cant believe youre making me do this BUT I investigated that whole thing and I dont think it really was racism. The term was used to describe an individual who was breaking away from his demographic, no different than if I was called a renegade stoner or renegade american. The article in question was actually written by David Horowitz not Bannon and it ends like this (again I dont like or agree with Bannon or Horowitz but I do care about honesty) : I am a Jew who has never been to Israel and has never been a Zionist in the sense of believing that Jews can rid themselves of Jew hatred by having their own nation state. But half of world Jewry now lives in Israel, and the enemies whom Obama and Hillary have empowered — Iran, the Muslim Brotherhood, Hezbollah, ISIS, and Hamas — have openly sworn to exterminate the Jews. I am also an American (and an American first), whose country is threatened with destruction by the same enemies. To weaken the only party that stands between the Jews and their annihilation, and between America and the forces intent on destroying her, is a political miscalculation so great and a betrayal so profound as to not be easily forgiven. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted January 29, 2017 #531 Share Posted January 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, Farmer77 said: Dear god , I cant believe youre making me do this BUT I investigated that whole thing and I dont think it really was racism. The term was used to describe an individual who was breaking away from his demographic, no different than if I was called a renegade stoner or renegade american. The article in question was actually written by David Horowitz not Bannon and it ends like this (again I dont like or agree with Bannon or Horowitz but I do care about honesty) : I am a Jew who has never been to Israel and has never been a Zionist in the sense of believing that Jews can rid themselves of Jew hatred by having their own nation state. But half of world Jewry now lives in Israel, and the enemies whom Obama and Hillary have empowered — Iran, the Muslim Brotherhood, Hezbollah, ISIS, and Hamas — have openly sworn to exterminate the Jews. I am also an American (and an American first), whose country is threatened with destruction by the same enemies. To weaken the only party that stands between the Jews and their annihilation, and between America and the forces intent on destroying her, is a political miscalculation so great and a betrayal so profound as to not be easily forgiven. It's clear that Breitbart somehow manages to be both anti-Semitic and pro-Israel at the same time. Allow that a moment to sink in. It makes sense when you look at the fact that pro-Israel people are using anti-Semitic canards against Jews who are opposed to their agendas. The fact that Breitbart and Bannon offered a platform for this is one of the reasons people view him the way they do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarocal Posted January 29, 2017 #532 Share Posted January 29, 2017 7 minutes ago, ChaosRose said: It's clear that Breitbart somehow manages to be both anti-Semitic and pro-Israel at the same time. Allow that a moment to sink in. It makes sense when you look at the fact that pro-Israel people are using anti-Semitic canards against Jews who are opposed to their agendas. The fact that Breitbart and Bannon offered a platform for this is one of the reasons people view him the way they do. So your saying David Horowitz (the author) is a self loathing, pro-Israeli, anti-Semitic, mouthpiece for a "modern day Nazi propaganda machine" which stauchly supports Israel actually against Jews? You do realize how tinfoil hat that sounds? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted January 29, 2017 #533 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Well, being anti-Jew but pro-Israel is a common feature of radical Christianity who call Jews "Christ killers" but who need Israel to exist in order for the Apocalypse to happen. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted January 30, 2017 #534 Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) Is ChaosRose still trying to draw the AntiSemitism card? Surely she must have plenty of other weapons to deploy? Or is it just that Antisemitism fits so nicely with the New Hitler meme that we're going to keep using it, however weak an argument it may be? From another thread recently: Benjamin Netanyahu - בנימין נתניהו Yesterday at 10:51am · President Donald J. Trump is right. I built a wall along Israel's southern border. It stopped all illegal immigration. Great success. Great idea הנשיא טראמפ צודק. בניתי חומה לאורך גבולה הדרומי של ישראל, והיא עצרה את כל ההסתננות הבלתי חוקית. הצלחה גדולה. רעיון גדול You can play with words as much as you like, but Israel's tyrant - er, Leader seems not to vehemently disagree with him. Edited January 30, 2017 by Manfred von Dreidecker 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellapenella Posted February 1, 2017 #535 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Poll Taken AFTER Mass Protests Shows Americans Support Trump Travel Ban 49-41% back the policy despite wall to wall media condemnation http://www.infowars.com/poll-taken-after-mass-protests-shows-americans-support-trump-travel-ban/ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted February 2, 2017 #536 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Billionaire George Soros has ties to more than 50 ‘partners’ of the Women’s March on Washington By my draft research, which I’m opening up for crowd-sourcing on GoogleDocs, Soros has funded, or has close relationships with, at least 56 of the march’s “partners,” including “key partners” Planned Parenthood, which opposes Trump’s anti-abortion policy, and the National Resource Defense Council, which opposes Trump’s environmental policies. The other Soros ties with “Women’s March” organizations include the partisan MoveOn.org (which was fiercely pro-Clinton), the National Action Network (which has a former executive director lauded by Obama senior advisor Valerie Jarrett as “a leader of tomorrow” as a march co-chair and another official as “the head of logistics”). Other Soros grantees who are “partners” in the march are the American Civil Liberties Union, Center for Constitutional Rights, Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch. March organizers and the organizations identified here haven’t yet returned queries for comment. http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womenintheworld/2017/01/20/billionaire-george-soros-has-ties-to-more-than-50-partners-of-the-womens-march-on-washington/ why is this nazi sympathizer still alive is beyond me, 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee Posted February 2, 2017 #537 Share Posted February 2, 2017 1 hour ago, aztek said: why is this nazi sympathizer still alive is beyond me, . at the end of the day I suppose he is just the money funnel (and willing fall guy ?) - and the people BEHIND him... handle him, protect him and keep him motivated - ???? . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted February 2, 2017 #538 Share Posted February 2, 2017 2 hours ago, aztek said: including “key partners” Planned Parenthood, which opposes Trump’s anti-abortion policy, I must say that's always seemed a very inappropriate name; if you decide that need an abortion, surely you didn't plan and that was the whole problem? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted February 2, 2017 #539 Share Posted February 2, 2017 On 1/29/2017 at 8:56 PM, Farmer77 said: There is plenty to trash Bannon over without going the Nazi route. If the opposition is going to be taken seriously at all theyve gotta stop using hyperbolic terms like that You have to play the Nazi card at every opportunity. It saves so much time having to construct a reasoned argument if you can just yell "Nazi!!" at every opportunity. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellapenella Posted February 2, 2017 #540 Share Posted February 2, 2017 The U.S. Constitution prohibits "an establishment of religion," but U.S. presidents have long paid tribute to the importance of faith in a divine power. http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/02/01/512944249/national-prayer-breakfast-could-feature-reconciliation-or-bickering This is why they protest mainly, to remove principle of God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellapenella Posted February 2, 2017 #541 Share Posted February 2, 2017 from the article Hundreds of foreign dignitaries will be on hand at the breakfast, including King Abdullah II of Jordan, a country currently burdened by a huge influx of Syrian refugees. Abdullah met earlier in the week with Vice President Pence and Defense Secretary James Mattis, but his encounter with Trump at the breakfast will be their first meeting. Trump has made clear he would like more assistance from countries like Jordan in the fight against ISIS, but Jordanian authorities worry that Trump's promise to move the U.S. Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem could make it politically difficult to show more support for the United States. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellapenella Posted February 2, 2017 #542 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Is that where they will build the safety zones for the refugees,in Jordan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellapenella Posted February 2, 2017 #543 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Jordan is bordered by Saudi Arabia to the east and south, Iraq to the north-east, From Wikipedia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skliss Posted February 2, 2017 #544 Share Posted February 2, 2017 4 hours ago, Manfred von Dreidecker said: I must say that's always seemed a very inappropriate name; if you decide that need an abortion, surely you didn't plan and that was the whole problem? I always thought pro-choice was ridiculous...the obvious response is .....you had 100 choices of birth control, why didn't you use one of them? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer77 Posted February 2, 2017 #545 Share Posted February 2, 2017 5 minutes ago, skliss said: I always thought pro-choice was ridiculous...the obvious response is .....you had 100 choices of birth control, why didn't you use one of them? Sure because condoms NEVER fail and birth control works 100% of the time right? ....just facepalm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted February 2, 2017 #546 Share Posted February 2, 2017 1 minute ago, Farmer77 said: Sure because condoms NEVER fail and birth control works 100% of the time right? ....just facepalm No, the point is the use of abortion as just another method of contraception, which is what the idea of "pro-choice" thinks of it as, not as an emergency response to an unexpected situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skliss Posted February 2, 2017 #547 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Web md says birth control pills are 99.9% effective, iuds are 99% and others are close to the same. Of course they don't work if you don't use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV-426 Posted February 2, 2017 #548 Share Posted February 2, 2017 5 hours ago, Manfred von Dreidecker said: You have to play the Nazi card at every opportunity. It saves so much time having to construct a reasoned argument if you can just yell "Nazi!!" at every opportunity. Nazi!! *taps foot and demands Godwin award* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer77 Posted February 2, 2017 #549 Share Posted February 2, 2017 7 minutes ago, Manfred von Dreidecker said: No, the point is the use of abortion as just another method of contraception, which is what the idea of "pro-choice" thinks of it as, not as an emergency response to an unexpected situation. My point was that not every case is like that so its kind of disingenuous to frame the entire debate like they are. Im in no way saying some dont use it as such but emergency situations do arise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer77 Posted February 2, 2017 #550 Share Posted February 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, skliss said: Web md says birth control pills are 99.9% effective, iuds are 99% and others are close to the same. Of course they don't work if you don't use them. Havent had much experience in the old sexual department have ya skliss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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