James Cameron finds 'evidence of Atlantis'

[papageorge1]

1 hour ago, Harte said:

If you knew anything at all about the topic, you'd know that even if Atlantis existed, it wasn't named "Atlantis" because Plato tells us that Solon Hellenized all the names in the story (as an excuse for Greek name places in a supposedly Egyptian story.)

So, since you seem to believe in the Akashic Record, and I assume from that that maybe you know something about that, you should know that nobody reading any Akashic record could ever come across any information concerning any place called "Atlantis" because that wouldn't have been the name of the place and the Akashic record doesn't lie (or does it?)

You can therefore only conclude that any of your favorite psychics that read the Akashic records and claim knowledge of Atlantis from there are actually lying.

There is literally NO other conclusion to be reached.

Harte

You might consider that the Akashic record does not consist of actual modern English words and place names but that the reader of the record chooses the appropriate modern English words for our sake.

[Jarocal]

7 minutes ago, Parsec said:

Evidently we don't share the same psychic powers.

 

Mh, I just realise that if I'd be able to perform remote viewing, I'd probably be a perv. 

Gibbous-Any moon that appears more than half lighted but less than full is called a gibbous moon. The word gibbous comes from a root word that means hump-backed.

 

the crescent of shading provided by the unfortunate presence of cloth from the bikini precludes by definition the use of the term " full moon". Though simple minded, uneducated, and at times sophomoric I do strive for accuracy in forum discussions.

[papageorge1]

55 minutes ago, back to earth said:

  Ommmmmmm       < uses psychic powers >  ....    P G is going to say that,  the statement he made before that  had considering in it (re ancient civilisations )  and the follow on comment about 'listening'  to  psychic archaeology , is a follow on  (if my memory serves me correctly on what he wrote ) . 

... a bit like his  ' I never said they spread their technology around the world '   ...... apparently he picks and chooses from the New Age Atlantis ideas as it suits him ? 

Unless he has his own view into the ' Astral record '  . 

Your psychic skills failed you on predicting PG's response. He didn't find it worth responding to. The difference between 'listening to' and 'considering'???? It wasn't one of the better skeptic posts.

[papageorge1]

18 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

Please offer three names of psychics who have helped form this opinion and three things upon which they agree.

Are you up to speed on all my previous posts?

Edited February 2, 2017 by papageorge1

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

8 minutes ago, papageorge1 said:

Are you up to speed on all my previous posts?

You could say I have your number, yes. 

[Jarocal]

8 minutes ago, papageorge1 said:

Are you up to speed on all my previous posts?

Yes, and it would be most helpful for a concise listing in a separate post giving participants a single response to teference back to as they peruse offerings from those people.

[Kenemet]

3 hours ago, papageorge1 said:

Here is another psychic source Lee Carroll:

Answer: Do not make Human assumptions about the past. First, know that "Atlantis" is not just a city (although many think it is). It's a race. It's a philosophy, and it's a consciousness. Here are the simple facts. Combine these into anything you wish to call it, but don't limit it to the mythology you now call Atlantis.

There is evidence on earth of races over 10,000 years old. It exists as artifacts on this planet. Some of the ones which are closest to the surface are in Arkansas.

I think you probably should put Lee Carroll on your "don't quote this guy" list.  

In the first place, he's using 'race' as a convenient shorthand for 'nationality' (and every once in awhile it seems to be shorthand for 'species') and it doesn't work at all.  

* we have hard evidence in North America of cultures that are far older than 10,000 years.

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Simple. This information doesn't target a location, since the earth changed since the original civilization was there. Instead it gives evidence…empirical evidence, that your current history is incomplete, and that you really don't have understanding of when Humanity began. Landmasses were connected, religions and races existed that you don't give credibility to, and science was developed far beyond what you might expect.
 

Carroll really shows ignorance here.  We have evidence of Homo Sapiens that is almost 1 million years old.   We already know when landmasses were connected and when they separated.  There is evidence of religion and culture but not of advanced technology.

Technology doesn't simply drop from the sky into your lap.  In order to build something like a cellphone, you need to have synthetic materials fabrication which means chemistry and power which means developing mining and farming resources to obtain materials which means a large population which means a lot of land involved in housing and that makes changes to land.

You can see these changes if you dig an archaeological trench.  The soil is compacted in an unusual way underneath houses and cities.

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Controversial? Very. Others will find these artifacts and present them to the world, only to be laughed at due to the tremendous bias of what you have been taught. Even with proof, they will turn the other way. Expect this, but understand that eventually, when enough people see the truth, it will prevail. It always does. Then the textbooks will start being re-written.

Again, shows a great lack of knowledge about things.  Textbooks are CONSTANTLY being rewritten... we don't keep reusing textbooks from 1850... and when proof is given textbooks get rewritten (as with the recent change of ideas about feathers on dinosaurs.)

[papageorge1]

3 minutes ago, Kenemet said:

I think you probably should put Lee Carroll on your "don't quote this guy" list.  

In the first place, he's using 'race' as a convenient shorthand for 'nationality' (and every once in awhile it seems to be shorthand for 'species') and it doesn't work at all.  

* we have hard evidence in North America of cultures that are far older than 10,000 years.

Carroll really shows ignorance here.  We have evidence of Homo Sapiens that is almost 1 million years old.   We already know when landmasses were connected and when they separated.  There is evidence of religion and culture but not of advanced technology.

Technology doesn't simply drop from the sky into your lap.  In order to build something like a cellphone, you need to have synthetic materials fabrication which means chemistry and power which means developing mining and farming resources to obtain materials which means a large population which means a lot of land involved in housing and that makes changes to land.

You can see these changes if you dig an archaeological trench.  The soil is compacted in an unusual way underneath houses and cities.

Again, shows a great lack of knowledge about things.  Textbooks are CONSTANTLY being rewritten... we don't keep reusing textbooks from 1850... and when proof is given textbooks get rewritten (as with the recent change of ideas about feathers on dinosaurs.)

I think he is referring to objects found that don't make sense in our current timeline. Michael Cremo is another one that talks about this but they get laughed at per Carroll: Others will find these artifacts and present them to the world, only to be laughed at due to the tremendous bias of what you have been taught.

[jaylemurph]

17 hours ago, back to earth said:

'Materialist scientific conspiracy archaeology '   .... is a thing now         

...my first thought was, "Is there any other kind of archaeology besides materialist?" And then I remembered that poster fell for "psychic archaeology" and I remembered that's not real so there is only materialist archarology.

17 hours ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

Name THREE. 

Three psychics and three things they agree upon.

I don't think there's ever been three psychics who've ever agreed on anything. Might as well ask the OP to fetch some tartan paint.

13 hours ago, Jarocal said:

 

--Jaylemurph

[Jarocal]

2 minutes ago, Kenemet said:

 

Technology doesn't simply drop from the sky into your lap. [/quote]

 Actually there are instances of technology falling from the sky though one generally would nit want a plane or satellite to land in their lap.

In order to build something like a cellphone, you need to have synthetic materials fabrication which means chemistry and power which means developing mining and farming resources to obtain materials which means a large population which means a lot of land involved in housing and that makes changes to land.

 

Why would synthetic materials be required when there are natural organisms capable of generating/transforming energy, communicating, etc.

Perhaps these fabled lost civilizations knew how to better utilize organic compunds which rapidly degraded and in turn were recycled by other useful organisms leaving a footprint behind that post diluvian homo sapiens did not know and subsequent divergence in technological evolution has modern humans less able to perceive the evidencethat remains.

(I should have been a fringe author...)

[docyabut2]

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 Again there are many of us that have study the myth of Atlantis for a long time. In the end to me it was a Egyptian  story of Threa  told to Solon,  and the later  Greek writers portrayed it as being so great, put it at the end of the unknown world. Edgar Cayce`s Atlantis  was not Plato `s Atlantis.  He read of many Atlantis  writers before him that only came out in his visions. A  dweller of two planets  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Dweller_on_Two_Planets

 

Edited February 3, 2017 by docyabut2

[Thorvir]

Oh this is just so gloriously entertaining...

[Jarocal]

32 minutes ago, jaylemurph said:

 

--Jaylemurph

Forgot your response or merely appending your signature in approval to my irrefutable post?

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

38 minutes ago, jaylemurph said:

...my first thought was, "Is there any other kind of archaeology besides materialist?" And then I remembered that poster fell for "psychic archaeology" and I remembered that's not real so there is only materialist archarology.

I don't think there's ever been three psychics who've ever agreed on anything. Might as well ask the OP to fetch some tartan paint.

--Jaylemurph

I already have enough of that.

[Jarocal]

8 minutes ago, Thorvir said:

Oh this is just so gloriously entertaining...

You didnt foresee this at the outset?

Sorry...

[back to earth]

1 hour ago, Parsec said:

Evidently we don't share the same psychic powers.

 

Mh, I just realise that if I'd be able to perform remote viewing, I'd probably be a perv. 

I thought we got rid of the guy that did that   ?   

[Jarocal]

2 hours ago, Swede said:

Incorrect. You recently stated the following:

To the expected criticism here, I will say that I listen to psychic archeology too  (emphasis added)(papageorge1 #31).

There is a distinct difference between "considering" and "listening to". Nor have you validated/legitimized the "concept" of "psychic archaeology". And citing such luminary researchers (!) as a "channeled" "Archangel Metatron" does little to support your own credibility or that of your sources.

Edit: Clarification.

I listen to and consider such luminaries as the late Lloyd Pye, Graham Hancock, Robert Bauval, et al.

 That the consideration given their arguments is rather short before dismissing their conjectures as erroneous is an irrelevant sidenote.

  For an example, considering all the scorn and rejection Schoch has received from the Orthodox Academic Cabal he has done some vety excellent work on the geology in the Visoko region of Bosnia.

[back to earth]

1 hour ago, Jarocal said:

Gibbous-Any moon that appears more than half lighted but less than full is called a gibbous moon. The word gibbous comes from a root word that means hump-backed.

 

the crescent of shading provided by the unfortunate presence of cloth from the bikini precludes by definition the use of the term " full moon". Though simple minded, uneducated, and at times sophomoric I do strive for accuracy in forum discussions.

Well spotted sir !     The Moontan photo is old b&w as it is from an article about 'why we dont see nude sunbakers anymore' .... yet again more proof of our ' lovely  '  sunshine . ... and a 'spotty Moon' is the least of our trubs ! 

 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-31/hottest-summer-ever-and-it-is-only-january/8225840

[back to earth]

1 hour ago, papageorge1 said:

Your psychic skills failed you on predicting PG's response. He didn't find it worth responding to.

Damn !  I must be one of the 50%

1 hour ago, papageorge1 said:

 

The difference between 'listening to' and 'considering'???? It wasn't one of the better skeptic posts.

Not for you ... but many posters here discern a big diff !   (if we transpose 'listen'  to 'read'  ... and in regard to   your posts .) . 

[Thorvir]

22 minutes ago, Jarocal said:

You didnt foresee this at the outset?

Sorry...

Oh, no, it was interesting from the start, but when you-know-who pranced in here and started with the same old same old, and with the same results as in every other thread, I just started getting all warm and fuzzy on the inside to see it play out.

[back to earth]

1 hour ago, papageorge1 said:

Are you up to speed on all my previous posts?

I think , so far, they have only encouraged him to get up to whisky  ..... anything stronger, I suggest medicinal sedatives ., and certainly not stimulants ! 

[Hanslune]

3 hours ago, Parsec said:

Isn't it why they are lost? 

Otherwise they'd be "lost&found civilisations"! 

Yes but by their nature civilizations are incredibly 'messy' they leave an easy to see trail/evidence, etc. Even small cultures going back towards the period of time Plato assigned to Atlantis can be found - yet the LC remain without any trace.

[back to earth]

1 hour ago, jaylemurph said:

...my first thought was, "Is there any other kind of archaeology besides materialist?" And then I remembered that poster fell for "psychic archaeology" and I remembered that's not real so there is only materialist archarology.

I don't think there's ever been three psychics who've ever agreed on anything. Might as well ask the OP to fetch some tartan paint.

--Jaylemurph

Wait for it .......   

 

Psychic History  !  

[back to earth]

38 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

I already have enough of that.

My kilt is up for a new coat     

[back to earth]

33 minutes ago, Jarocal said:

You didnt foresee this at the outset?

Sorry...

  Title  -  Yes !

Papa  entered the thread -   Yes ³ !