highdesert50 Posted February 2, 2017 #126 Share Posted February 2, 2017 If scans were to be made at ocean depths of about 100m, it would be possible to identify "lost cites" that existed prior to the melt down following the last ice age. Perhaps therein lies an Atlantis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essan Posted February 2, 2017 #127 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Bronze age anchors are evidence of Atlantis in the same way that a pile of old broomsticks is evidence of Hogwarts Castle. And since we all know for fact that Harry Potter was real ...... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted February 2, 2017 #128 Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, Noteverythingisaconspiracy said: If the sources are more recent than Plato how do you know that they aren't inspired by Plato ? Maybe you could come up with a source that pre-dates Plato ? Only by people that doesn't understand the context of Plato's dialogues or people who uses them to push their own ideas. As Kmt_sesh said there is a difference between having read Platos story and actually understanding it. I am suggesting these modern sources with psychic insight may be completely independent of Plato. Then we have disparate sources saying similar things. Interesting? Their information may be coming from a completely different place and source. I am intrigued and consider that something interesting may be going on. In my searches I have read some incredibly detailed stuff of Atlantean history. Edited February 2, 2017 by papageorge1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoferox Posted February 2, 2017 #129 Share Posted February 2, 2017 1 minute ago, papageorge1 said: I am suggesting these modern sources with psychic insight may be completely independent of Plato. Then we have disparate sources saying similar things. Interesting? Their information may be coming from a completely different place and source. An diverse sources seem to be saying quite similar things. I am intrigued and consider that something interesting may be going on. In my searches I have read some incredibly detailed stuff of Atlantean history. It is more like disparate sources saying disparate things. Modern sources diverge greatly from Plato's original narrative. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted February 2, 2017 #130 Share Posted February 2, 2017 5 hours ago, Noteverythingisaconspiracy said: On a personal for a while when I was a teenager I did believe that Atlantis existed. I got that idea from a book by Charles Berlitz, but after I started to do a little further digging into it I came to see that all of the "evidence" he represented was either lies or misinterpretations. This was back in those primitive times before the internet so I actually had to do some real reading in something called books. (Yes I am that old ) I was once were you are at now. However, these sources claiming psychic insight has renewed my intrigue and curiosity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorvir Posted February 2, 2017 #131 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Just now, papageorge1 said: I am suggesting these modern sources with psychic insight may be completely independent of Plato. What "modern sources with psyhich insight"? And what info could they get independent from Plato, since he's the one that made the entirety of Atlantis up in the first place? Just now, papageorge1 said: Then we have disparate sources saying similar things. Interesting? Their information may be coming from a completely different place and source. Yeah, completely made up. Unless you...FINALLLY...can provide something to back up your claims? Just now, papageorge1 said: An diverse sources seem to be saying quite similar things. I am intrigued and consider that something interesting may be going on. In my searches I have read some incredibly detailed stuff of Atlantean history. There is no "Atlantean theory", you've been reading nothing but fiction in your "searches". It's a story made up by Plato, and nothing more. It's been that way for thousands of years, and it hasn't changed one bit since he made it up. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted February 2, 2017 #132 Share Posted February 2, 2017 5 hours ago, Noteverythingisaconspiracy said: So essentially you believe in those psychics because they tell you something that you allready believe is true ? If there was a psychic that told you that Atlatis was a literary device used by Plato would you belive that too ? On this forum I seem to go from intrigued and interested to a BELIEVER that needs to believe what he wants to believe rather quickly. I consider theories and don't always have a black/white position. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted February 2, 2017 #133 Share Posted February 2, 2017 6 minutes ago, Carnoferox said: It is more like disparate sources saying disparate things. Modern sources diverge greatly from Plato's original narrative. And it is possible these modern sources are well beyond Plato in understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted February 2, 2017 #134 Share Posted February 2, 2017 1 minute ago, papageorge1 said: On this forum I seem to go from intrigued and interested to a BELIEVER that needs to believe what he wants to believe rather quickly. I consider theories and don't always have a black/white position. In other words you prefer lying to yourself, okay, at least we know not to take you seriously. Thanks for clarifying. cormac 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted February 2, 2017 #135 Share Posted February 2, 2017 1 minute ago, papageorge1 said: And it is possible these modern sources are well beyond Plato in understanding. If it weren't for Plato these "sources" would never have heard of Atlantis. cormac 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted February 2, 2017 #136 Share Posted February 2, 2017 8 minutes ago, Thorvir said: What "modern sources with psyhich insight"? And what info could they get independent from Plato, since he's the one that made the entirety of Atlantis up in the first place? Yeah, completely made up. Unless you...FINALLLY...can provide something to back up your claims? There is no "Atlantean theory", you've been reading nothing but fiction in your "searches". It's a story made up by Plato, and nothing more. It's been that way for thousands of years, and it hasn't changed one bit since he made it up. I might blow your mind by considering Akashic memory and spiritual memories that may be available to other entities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted February 2, 2017 #137 Share Posted February 2, 2017 4 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said: In other words you prefer lying to yourself, okay, at least we know not to take you seriously. Thanks for clarifying. Cormac Amazing <face palm> If you know not to take me seriously, it would please me to get on your ignore list. I prefer intelligent discussion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorvir Posted February 2, 2017 #138 Share Posted February 2, 2017 15 minutes ago, papageorge1 said: I might blow your mind by considering Akashic memory and spiritual memories that may be available to other entities. Hardly. It's just all make-believe as usual. And what other "entities" are you referring to? Atlantis is nothing but fiction created by Plato. Unless you FINALLY want to post up some proof to support your claims for once....do you? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorvir Posted February 2, 2017 #139 Share Posted February 2, 2017 12 minutes ago, papageorge1 said: Amazing <face palm> If you know not to take me seriously, it would please me to get on your ignore list. I prefer intelligent discussion. You do not. You prefer to make claims and then refuse to back them up. You prefer to handwave excuses and reasons only to justify your own bias on a subject. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted February 2, 2017 #140 Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Thorvir said: Hardly. It's just all make-believe as usual. And what other "entities" are you referring to? Atlantis is nothing but fiction created by Plato. Unless you FINALLY want to post up some proof to support your claims for once....do you? Oh. so now I am supposed to have 'PROOF". Amazing how these discussions descend. After only discussing intriguing and interesting evidence? Edited February 2, 2017 by papageorge1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badeskov Posted February 2, 2017 #141 Share Posted February 2, 2017 1 minute ago, papageorge1 said: Oh. so now I am supposed to have 'PROOF". Amazing how these discussions descend. After only discussing intriguing and interesting evidence? What evidence? To the best of my knowledge, there has been zero evidence brought forth.... Cheers, Badeskov 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorvir Posted February 2, 2017 #142 Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) 16 minutes ago, papageorge1 said: Oh. so now I am supposed to have 'PROOF". You aren't supposed to just now have "proof". You were supposed to provide that some time ago. Don't pretend that you dodging the request over and over again in several different threads is a new thing to you. You claim there is evidence, you provide it. Quote Amazing how these discussions descend. After only discussing intriguing and interesting evidence? It's not amazing how these discussions go. They always go like this when you are involved. So, why don't you finally support your claims for once. Please. Or are you going to report me again for disagreeing with you and "hurting your feelings", instead of actually posting like you have some intellectual integrity for once? Edited February 2, 2017 by Thorvir 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted February 2, 2017 #143 Share Posted February 2, 2017 29 minutes ago, papageorge1 said: Amazing <face palm> If you know not to take me seriously, it would please me to get on your ignore list. I prefer intelligent discussion. Pity, since you came unarmed. Intelligent people realize that without Plato there is no story of Atlantis, advanced or otherwise. cormac 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted February 2, 2017 #144 Share Posted February 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, Thorvir said: You aren't supposed to just now have "proof". You were supposed to provide that some time ago. Don't pretend that you dodging the request over and over again in several different threads is a new thing to you. Now, explain why I am supposed to have proof for something I don't consider proven? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badeskov Posted February 2, 2017 #145 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Just now, papageorge1 said: Now, explain why I am supposed to have proof for something I don't consider proven? Yet, you claimed that evidence existed. Where is this elusive evidence? Cheers, Badeskov 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorvir Posted February 2, 2017 #146 Share Posted February 2, 2017 6 minutes ago, papageorge1 said: Now, explain why I am supposed to have proof for something I don't consider proven? Then don't claim that you do have evidence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted February 2, 2017 #147 Share Posted February 2, 2017 1 minute ago, badeskov said: Yet, you claimed that evidence existed. Where is this elusive evidence? Cheers, Badeskov It is in the telling of many sources that claim psychic insight into history in written material. Now, if one is interested he could go to the internet and esoteric book shops and spend days and days digging through all this. It is not something for a quick reply post. I know of no one link where this is all coalesced if that is what you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted February 2, 2017 #148 Share Posted February 2, 2017 5 minutes ago, Thorvir said: Then don't claim that you do have evidence. It is in the telling of many sources that claim psychic insight into history in written material. Now, if one is interested he could go to the internet and esoteric book shops and spend days and days digging through all this. It is not something for a quick reply post. I know of no one link where this is all coalesced if that is what you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badeskov Posted February 2, 2017 #149 Share Posted February 2, 2017 1 minute ago, papageorge1 said: It is in the telling of many sources that claim psychic insight into history in written material. Now, if one is interested he could go to the internet and esoteric book shops and spend days and days digging through all this. It is not something for a quick reply post. I know of no one link where this is all coalesced if that is what you want. That is not evidence, that is make believe. So there is no evidence, duly noted. Cheers, Badeskov 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted February 2, 2017 #150 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Just now, badeskov said: That is not evidence, that is make believe. So there is no evidence, duly noted. Cheers, Badeskov The ostrich/sand image comes to mind here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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