OldNate Posted February 7, 2017 #126 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Just now, aztek said: you right there may be more than just half. according to cnn The US did experience its highest one-year increase in the murder rate in half a century between 2014 and 2015. lol...did you just flip into Troll mode? If so, props. If not...really? Let's just say all the planets have aligned, there's 3 blue moons in the sky, and they just opened up family skate in Hell, and that's what he actually meant. I have to ask again, are you cool with your guy being this bad at communicating? Do you honestly believe he represents the best America has to offer? This is the guy that's gonna make America great again? Because if it were me, I'd be a little nervous about now... And, follow up, had Obama made the same statement, would you have supported him? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent0range Posted February 7, 2017 #127 Share Posted February 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Farmer77 said: The believers are clearly intent on spinning this. Its kinda becoming scary. Sometimes it's like talking to a wall. It's a one line quote, it's not that hard to dissect, and it certainly isn't hard to fact check. It's just funny because I was just talking about blatant lies that no one holds him accountable for. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted February 7, 2017 #128 Share Posted February 7, 2017 1 hour ago, OldNate said: As a non-American just trying to understand....what am I missing? You have a reasonable grasp of how our system is supposed to work. For many years, it is how it DID work. Today the Left openly includes a sold-out media organization to act as a propaganda ministry. If that sounds like hyperbole, you haven't paid close enough attention. For the last 8 years, those on the Left have refused UTTERLY to share power or to compromise in any meaningful way. The power (money) in D.C. is the prize and we no longer have statesmen as leaders. Unless the people who believe in what America was founded on can destroy the corrupt system so entrenched there, our nation is doomed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted February 7, 2017 #129 Share Posted February 7, 2017 10 minutes ago, OldNate said: Do you honestly believe he represents the best America has to offer? i do not need to believe anything, there was 2 choices, him or Hillary, she was the worst choice out of the two. we are playing with the cards we were dealt. not the cards we'd like to be dealt. and yes considering the choices he was the best our political machine had to offer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamato Posted February 7, 2017 #130 Share Posted February 7, 2017 8 hours ago, bee said: .weren't they responsible for 'massacring' US soldiers in Iraq with IEDs...? Of course they could never compete with all the deaths (massacres) of Iraqi and Libyan civilians that the Obama Administration and Bush Administration are responsible for If there's a moral equivalence between these massacres and those massacres, then you'll take many 1000s of times more exception with Ella Panella than you do with me. If dueling massacres are what's left from this OP about Kellyanne's word choices, can Yemeni, Libyan and Syrian civilians sue Lockheed, Boeing, Raytheon, GE, IBM, United Technologies, etc because they're responsible for making weapons that massacre people? Quote - but they couldn't be allowed to carry on their terrorist work on US soil... Well that's exactly what they say about us on their soil. If you want to play the game you need a partner to play it with. "This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities. It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population. It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals. It is some fifty miles of concrete pavement. We pay for a single fighter with a half-million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people. . . . This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron." ~ Dwight Eisenhower 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted February 7, 2017 #131 Share Posted February 7, 2017 13 minutes ago, Agent0range said: It's just funny because I was just talking about blatant lies that no one holds him accountable for. it is funny, he should be held responsible in the same way every other president was for their lies, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent0range Posted February 7, 2017 #132 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Just now, aztek said: it is funny, he should be held responsible in the same way every other president was for their lies, What are you even on about? Wasn't this supposed to be the "change" everyone wanted? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted February 7, 2017 #133 Share Posted February 7, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Agent0range said: What are you even on about? Wasn't this supposed to be the "change" everyone wanted? that was Obama campaign slogan. and it was a lie. still too early to comment on trump, he is doing what he thinks needs to be done. will see what happens in few years. Edited February 7, 2017 by aztek 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellapenella Posted February 7, 2017 Author #134 Share Posted February 7, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Yamato said: If there's a moral equivalence between these massacres and those massacres, then you'll take many 1000s of times more exception with Ella Panella than you do with me. If dueling massacres are what's left from this OP about Kellyanne's word choices, can Yemeni, Libyan and Syrian civilians sue Lockheed, Boeing, Raytheon, GE, IBM, United Technologies, etc because they're responsible for making weapons that massacre people? Well that's exactly what they say about us on their soil. If you want to play the game you need a partner to play it with. "This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities. It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population. It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals. It is some fifty miles of concrete pavement. We pay for a single fighter with a half-million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people. . . . This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron." ~ Dwight Eisenhower it's penella not panella ETA pennella not panella Edited February 7, 2017 by Ellapennella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamato Posted February 7, 2017 #135 Share Posted February 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Ellapennella said: it's penella not panella ETA pennella not panella Yeah, Pennella. Come on Ella you can't get me for making a spelling error of your name after making a spelling error of your name. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellapenella Posted February 7, 2017 Author #136 Share Posted February 7, 2017 29 minutes ago, Farmer77 said: The believers are clearly intent on spinning this. Its kinda becoming scary. The past administration was scary& their political Correctness was scary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer77 Posted February 7, 2017 #137 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Just now, Ellapennella said: The past administration was scary& their political Correctness was scary. Agreed , that doesnt change the current problems we face with the Trump admin however. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellapenella Posted February 7, 2017 Author #138 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Just now, Yamato said: Yeah, Pennella. Come on Ella you can't get me for making a spelling error of your name after making a spelling error of your name. alright...lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellapenella Posted February 7, 2017 Author #139 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Just now, Farmer77 said: Agreed , that doesnt change the current problems we face with the Trump admin however. that was bad . do you realize why they were doing that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNate Posted February 7, 2017 #140 Share Posted February 7, 2017 13 minutes ago, aztek said: it is funny, he should be held responsible in the same way every other president was for their lies, Gets the Like, because the first name that came to mind was Nixon... haha Sorry, that was flippant. We've been hanging out a while now, you'll allow that, right? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellapenella Posted February 7, 2017 Author #141 Share Posted February 7, 2017 We don't have any problems because of President Trump. What we have here is a lack of respect from others because of Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer77 Posted February 7, 2017 #142 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Just now, Ellapennella said: We don't have any problems because of President Trump. What we have here is a lack of respect from others because of Obama. Yes Ella we have no problems with the dear leader. (thats a reference to the god like devotion the people of North Korea have for their leader) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamato Posted February 7, 2017 #143 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNate Posted February 7, 2017 #144 Share Posted February 7, 2017 So...where do we land on this topic. Clearly the Left finds the lying / alternative facts / mis-speaking exhausting. Do we leave this conversation saying the Pro-Trump crowd is good with it? Nothing to see here, move along? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent0range Posted February 7, 2017 #145 Share Posted February 7, 2017 16 minutes ago, Ellapennella said: We don't have any problems because of President Trump. What we have here is a lack of respect from others because of Obama. We have a lack of respect, because of Obama? Could it not have stemmed from our current President who led a birther movement for years by telling us our President was not legitimate, a Muslim, born in another country, and had a fake birth certificate? Lack of respect. Go away now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunn Posted February 7, 2017 #146 Share Posted February 7, 2017 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Ellapennella said: We don't have any problems because of President Trump. What we have here is a lack of respect from others because of Obama. You want everybody to worship Trump or something? Or just put their heads up his ass with blind devotion and then say nothing, like he never does anything wrong? You need to keep in mind, for a lot of us who voted the narcissistic A-hole in to keep Hillary out, he is the second worse choice out of the two. And lot of us just may vote his ass out in 4 years if a better choice comes along. Edited February 7, 2017 by Purifier 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted February 7, 2017 #147 Share Posted February 7, 2017 5 hours ago, Ellapennella said: President Trump is just more wiser & more Patriotic as opposed to Obama so it's expected that President Trump will be more thorough in securing America's borders and keeping us safe. Wiser? Wise in general? Who? That was a good one, you made my day! Thanks a lot! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellapenella Posted February 7, 2017 Author #148 Share Posted February 7, 2017 13 minutes ago, Agent0range said: We have a lack of respect, because of Obama? Could it not have stemmed from our current President who led a birther movement for years by telling us our President was not legitimate, a Muslim, born in another country, and had a fake birth certificate? Lack of respect. Go away now. Obama doesn't respect America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellapenella Posted February 7, 2017 Author #149 Share Posted February 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, toast said: Wiser? Wise in general? Who? That was a good one, you made my day! Thanks a lot! yeah, you failed to mention Patriotic too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellapenella Posted February 7, 2017 Author #150 Share Posted February 7, 2017 15 minutes ago, Purifier said: You want everybody to worship Trump or something? Or just put their heads up his ass with blind devotion and then say nothing, like he never does anything wrong? You need to keep in mind, for a lot of us who voted the narcissistic A-hole in to keep Hillary out, he is the second worse choice out of the two. And lot of us just may vote his ass out in 4 years if a better choice comes along. Only the Creator in heaven is worthy of worship, silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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