docyabut2 Posted February 19, 2017 #26 Share Posted February 19, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Captain Risky said: According to what I've read the ark was built by Moses to house the commandments. The ark was built from acacia wood and to be decorated accordingly as was commanded by God himself. If all the Jews knew was Egyptian then its only natural that the decorations would resemble Egyptian art. I just saying Moses built that ark only out of wood and the earlier writers turned it into gold. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image" is an abbreviated form of one of the Ten Commandments which, according to the Book of Deuteronomy, were spoken by God to the Israelites and then written on stone tablets by the Finger of God.[1] Edited February 19, 2017 by docyabut2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted February 19, 2017 #27 Share Posted February 19, 2017 49 minutes ago, Tatetopa said: Wood is OK. I would stay away from gunpowder though. They needed it ... this was in the days before bass hammers , mind you . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted February 19, 2017 #28 Share Posted February 19, 2017 44 minutes ago, docyabut2 said: well they did find in the deserts , metals that can start on fire. a metal that spontaneously combusts ? found in the desert ? ... and it says that in the BIble ? What Bible you been reading Docy ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted February 19, 2017 #29 Share Posted February 19, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, docyabut2 said: I just saying Moses built that ark only out of wood and the earlier writers turned it into gold. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image" is an abbreviated form of one of the Ten Commandments which, according to the Book of Deuteronomy, were spoken by God to the Israelites and then written on stone tablets by the Finger of God.[1] Moses would not have gone against his own laws Edited February 19, 2017 by docyabut2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted February 19, 2017 #30 Share Posted February 19, 2017 1 minute ago, docyabut2 said: I just saying Moses built that ark only out of wood and the earlier writers turn in it to gold. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image" is an abbreviated form of one of the Ten Commandments which, according to the Book of Deuteronomy, were spoken by God to the Israelites and then written on stone tablets by the Finger of God.[1] I thought it was made outta wood and then wrapped in beaten gold leaf? The Hebrews had enough gold to make an image of a calf to worship so maybe Moses and Arron put that gold to better use. Then again maybe you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted February 19, 2017 #31 Share Posted February 19, 2017 42 minutes ago, Noteverythingisaconspiracy said: What flammable metal can you find in the Sinai ? Spontaneously flammable metal ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A rather obscure Bassoon Posted February 19, 2017 #32 Share Posted February 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, Captain Risky said: I thought it was made outta wood and then wrapped in beaten gold leaf? The Hebrews had enough gold to make an image of a calf to worship With all that Gold surely they didn't need god, they could have gone out and bought an Homeland. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted February 19, 2017 #33 Share Posted February 19, 2017 27 minutes ago, docyabut2 said: Moses would not have built anything in references to the Egyptian arks, that they were escaping . No, I asked you why he wouldnt .... all you did there was to make the same staement that he would not have again . and again , why would he not have , considering he was an Egyptian himself ? And they were not 'escaping ' , Moses may have been , he was , after all, a murderer on the run . Single : Exodus 2: 11 - 13 . and then later ; Mass murderer ; Exodus 32: 28 . ( about 3000 + of his own people ) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted February 19, 2017 #34 Share Posted February 19, 2017 27 minutes ago, Captain Risky said: According to what I've read the ark was built by Moses to house the commandments. The ark was built from acacia wood and to be decorated accordingly as was commanded by God himself. If all the Jews knew was Egyptian then its only natural that the decorations would resemble Egyptian art. Indeed ! and it 'just so happens' that the description in the bible matches the description of an Egyptian portable / processional shrine , exactly the same purpose as the ark . and NOWHERE is there anything like the description of that silly drum that Docy posted . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted February 19, 2017 #35 Share Posted February 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, A rather obscure Bassoon said: With all that Gold surely they didn't need god, they could have gone out and bought an Homeland. According to the Bible Moses ordered his people not to take any gold or silver, and leave it behind, so go figure those people really had no gold or silver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted February 19, 2017 #36 Share Posted February 19, 2017 19 minutes ago, docyabut2 said: Moses would not have gone against his own laws But God said to make it with the gold and decorations ! and Moses certainly went against his own laws ..... like killing over 3000 people and then declaring 'Thou shalt not kill . " 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted February 19, 2017 #37 Share Posted February 19, 2017 21 minutes ago, Captain Risky said: I thought it was made outta wood and then wrapped in beaten gold leaf? The Hebrews had enough gold to make an image of a calf to worship so maybe Moses and Arron put that gold to better use. Then again maybe you're right. Yes, he certainly did ... he got it melted down and poured it down the throats of his own people ! 'Thou shalt not kill ' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted February 19, 2017 #38 Share Posted February 19, 2017 16 minutes ago, A rather obscure Bassoon said: With all that Gold surely they didn't need god, they could have gone out and bought an Homeland. or just go and take someone else's ... after killing them and the women and children ... under Moses' orders . Gosh , the more we go on, the more the body count rises . Maybe the ark was hiding the dead body of some guy Moses killed up on the mountain ? < no one ever look in here ... he he he > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted February 19, 2017 #39 Share Posted February 19, 2017 1 minute ago, back to earth said: Yes, he certainly did ... he got it melted down and poured it down the throats of his own people ! 'Thou shalt not kill ' That seems pretty extreme for even Moses. You got a link with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted February 19, 2017 #40 Share Posted February 19, 2017 Moses laws Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven images Moses would not have ever had built a ark out graven images 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted February 19, 2017 #41 Share Posted February 19, 2017 13 minutes ago, docyabut2 said: According to the Bible Moses ordered his people not to take any gold or silver, and leave it behind, so go figure those people really had no gold or silver You really need to read the BIble again ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted February 19, 2017 #42 Share Posted February 19, 2017 8 minutes ago, Captain Risky said: That seems pretty extreme for even Moses. You got a link with that? Ask Docy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted February 19, 2017 #43 Share Posted February 19, 2017 10 minutes ago, docyabut2 said: Moses laws Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven images Moses would not have ever had built a ark out graven images Moses laws Thou shalt not kill Moses would never have killed thousands :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A rather obscure Bassoon Posted February 19, 2017 #44 Share Posted February 19, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, back to earth said: 19 minutes ago, docyabut2 said: According to the Bible Moses ordered his people not to take any gold or silver, and leave it behind, so go figure those people really had no gold or silver Apparently, Moses Ordered them to ask their captors for Gold,Silver and clothing. Exodus 12:35 35Now the sons of Israel had done according to the word of Moses, for they had requested from the Egyptians articles of silver and articles of gold, and clothing; Edited February 19, 2017 by A rather obscure Bassoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted February 19, 2017 #45 Share Posted February 19, 2017 Yup, thats why I told Docy to reread the Bible ... she seems to just make up stuff as she goes along .... and then ; ' Its in Bible ' . One wonders how they concocted this from desert materials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted February 19, 2017 #46 Share Posted February 19, 2017 (edited) .... maybe the 'footwear ' Edited February 19, 2017 by back to earth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted February 19, 2017 #47 Share Posted February 19, 2017 “You must burn the images of their gods, but do not covet the silver and gold that covers them so much that you take it for yourself and thus become ensnared by it; for it is abhorrent to the Lord your God. 26 You must not bring any detestable thing into your house and thereby become an object of divine annihilation like it is. You must absolutely abhor and detest it, for it is an object of divine annihilation” (Deuteronomy 7:25-26). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted February 19, 2017 #48 Share Posted February 19, 2017 26 minutes ago, A rather obscure Bassoon said: Apparently, Moses Ordered them to ask their captors for Gold,Silver and clothing. Exodus 12:35 35Now the sons of Israel had done according to the word of Moses, for they had requested from the Egyptians articles of silver and articles of gold, and clothing; “You must burn the images of their gods, but do not covet the silver and gold that covers them so much that you take it for yourself and thus become ensnared by it; for it is abhorrent to the Lord your God. 26 You must not bring any detestable thing into your house and thereby become an object of divine annihilation like it is. You must absolutely abhor and detest it, for it is an object of divine annihilation” (Deuteronomy 7:25-26). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted February 19, 2017 #49 Share Posted February 19, 2017 16 minutes ago, docyabut2 said: “You must burn the images of their gods, but do not covet the silver and gold that covers them so much that you take it for yourself and thus become ensnared by it; for it is abhorrent to the Lord your God. 26 You must not bring any detestable thing into your house and thereby become an object of divine annihilation like it is. You must absolutely abhor and detest it, for it is an object of divine annihilation” (Deuteronomy 7:25-26). Exodus 12:35 35Now the sons of Israel had done according to the word of Moses, for they had requested from the Egyptians articles of silver and articles of gold, and clothing; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted February 19, 2017 #50 Share Posted February 19, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, back to earth said: Yes indeed ! It was well followed up in other docos ; they went to the place where it is kept , and they showed some of the objects associated with it . For some reason they were nothing like they were in the bible ... but exactly like the early ironwork of Ethiopians of a few centuries back The docu;s you mention...personally Im not impressed Edited February 19, 2017 by seeder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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