Sessions Spoke with Russian Envoy Last Year

[Clarakore]

37 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said:

Yes, it is now. Before the New Deal, it was quite a different system.

Unfettered capitalism might have never existed. Before the New Deal we definitely had reforms pushed by many including Horace Mann, Mother Jones, Upton Sinclair and events such as the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire and even Abolition.

But good to know where you draw the line. I suppose you would dispense with the very socialistic Social Security. 

 

Edited March 4, 2017 by Avatar Samantha Ai

[+Hammerclaw]

Just now, Avatar Samantha Ai said:

Unfettered capitalism might have never existed. Before the New Deal we definitely has reforms pushed by many including Horace Mann, Mother Jones, Upton Sinclair and events such as the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire and even Abolition.

But good to know where you draw the line. I suppose you would dispense with the very socialistic Social Security. 

 

Nope. That's the thing about Socialism. Once people are use to it, or are born into the system, it's just another fact of life.

[Clarakore]

2 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said:

Well, that's a load of garbage. Your politics are nakedly obvious. Own them or shut up.

This is the mindset that does not allow centrism or across the aisle bipartisanship.

You are one of the equations in a problem you detest. Take yourself out of it or quit stitching about the Left.

[Frank Merton]

Unfettered capitalism would be impossible.  Who would enforce contracts?

I think the best ideology is pragmatism -- whatever works best in a given situation.

[Farmer77]

3 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said:

Well, that's a load of garbage. Your politics are nakedly obvious. Own them or shut up.

 Like I said sorry you see everything in right vs left. Maybe peruse some of the threads about Hillary if you dont believe me, or dont I dont care i suppose. 

 Google the term "politics makes strange bedfellows" and expand your horizons. Just because the dems and I happen to be in agreeance on the Trumpster and his cabal of oligarchs doesnt meant im one of them. 

[Farmer77]

1 minute ago, Hammerclaw said:

Nope. That's the thing about Socialism. Once people are use to it, or are born into the system, it's just another fact of life.

Like having the postal service or local EMS? Oooooh beware the evils of socialism you might one day wake up to realize you feel entitled to receiving mail  

[+Hammerclaw]

3 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

 Like I said sorry you see everything in right vs left. Maybe peruse some of the threads about Hillary if you dont believe me, or dont I dont care i suppose. 

 Google the term "politics makes strange bedfellows" and expand your horizons. Just because the dems and I happen to be in agreeance on the Trumpster and his cabal of oligarchs doesnt meant im one of them. 

If it walks like duck, quacks like a duck and looks like a duck, it shouldn't be surprised to be bagged for dinner. If you haven't the guts to take a stand, you stand for nothing and what you say means even less.

Edited March 4, 2017 by Hammerclaw

[Farmer77]

1 minute ago, Hammerclaw said:

If it walks like duck, quacks like a duck and looks like a duck, it shouldn't be surprised to be bagged for dinner. If haven't the guts to take a stand, you stand for nothing and what you say means even less.

Im standing for America and for freedom no political affiliation needed to do that. 

Man you've really been brainwashed by the party havent ya? 

Edited March 4, 2017 by Farmer77

[Frank Merton]

1 minute ago, Hammerclaw said:

Nope. That's the thing about Socialism. Once people are use to it, or are born into the system, it's just another fact of life.

What matters to people is delivery, not how it's delivered, generally done by comparing the lives of parents to one's own life.  Socialist societies who don't deliver come under pressure and must either resort to terror (Mao) or capitalist methods camouflaged as steps on the way to utopia.

[+Hammerclaw]

4 minutes ago, Avatar Samantha Ai said:

This is the mindset that does not allow centrism or across the aisle bipartisanship.

You are one of the equations in a problem you detest. Take yourself out of it or quit stitching about the Left.

Funny, how that's so important when it's your guys that are the out party.

[Clarakore]

6 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said:

Nope. That's the thing about Socialism. Once people are use to it, or are born into the system, it's just another fact of life.

What about public works? How dare they use my taxes to build and maintain roads. That should be the job of private corporations and all roads should be tolled. Damn the pinko commies for doing this to our once great society. Now these snivelling kids think they are entitled to just whiz right past me and go on about their business.

Are you done drinking the koolaid in your party of one?

[+Hammerclaw]

2 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

Im standing for America and for freedom no political affiliation needed to do that. 

Man you've really been brainwashed by the party havent ya? 

Yes, but you lean, consistently, far left while doing it.

[Clarakore]

2 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said:

Yes, but you lean, consistently, far left while doing it.

What would you prefer? To send all the Left away or lock them up. Excuse me dictator hammerandsickleclaw!

Get those dirty centrist too!

Edited March 4, 2017 by Avatar Samantha Ai

[Farmer77]

Just now, Hammerclaw said:

Yes, but you lean, consistently, far left while doing it.

On many issues i do lean to the left. Im also fiercely pro gun and states rights' so im a mixed bag. Regardless that has nothing to do with party affiliation. Thats an important distinction because of the garbage we have happening right now. Both parties are the true enemies of freedom. Both parties work together AGAINST you and I. They are truly two sides of the same dirty, dirty coin. 

 

[Frank Merton]

7 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said:

Funny, how that's so important when it's your guys that are the out party.

In the great scheme of things this is but an interlude where the Republicans will be allowed to show that even with complete power they can't get anything done.  The problem is that the Democrats have already shown this.

[+Hammerclaw]

Just now, Avatar Samantha Ai said:

What would you prefer? To send all the Left away or lock them up. Excuse me dictator hammerandsickleclaw!

See what I mean? You feel entitled to criticize the way you do, but are dismayed and outraged when Hillary's "Basket of Deplorables" use precisely the same rhetoric against you. So please don't preach to me about polarizing politics.

[Clarakore]

1 minute ago, Hammerclaw said:

See what I mean? You feel entitled to criticize the way you do, but are dismayed and outraged when Hillary's "Basket of Deplorables" use precisely the same rhetoric against you. So please don't preach to me about polarizing politics.

I am not the one fishing and deboning about it now. You cannot choose a side, harass the other side and then complain about a war.

[Clarakore]

5 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said:

 

Nevermind. Peace out.

Edited March 4, 2017 by Avatar Samantha Ai

[+Hammerclaw]

1 minute ago, Farmer77 said:

On many issues i do lean to the left. Im also fiercely pro gun and states rights' so im a mixed bag. Regardless that has nothing to do with party affiliation. Thats an important distinction because of the garbage we have happening right now. Both parties are the true enemies of freedom. Both parties work together AGAINST you and I. They are truly two sides of the same dirty, dirty coin. 

 

Of course they are; that's always been the nature of party politics--ugly and vicious. Lincoln, himself, got into a fistfight, in his younger years, on stage with a political opponent he was debating!

[+Hammerclaw]

2 minutes ago, Avatar Samantha Ai said:

Soldier up! Show me your war face! 

[Farmer77]

1 minute ago, Avatar Samantha Ai said:

Soldier up! Show me your war face! 

 

 

    

[Clarakore]

Well in that case lol

Hope you guys all have good Saturdays.

[+Hammerclaw]

4 minutes ago, Avatar Samantha Ai said:

I am not the one fishing and deboning about it now. You cannot choose a side, harass the other side and then complain about a war.

Then why are you complaining! Look in the mirror, for Chrissakes. If you can't take it, you shouldn't dish it out.

[Claire.]

The latest: Sessions to respond in writing to questions over Russia contacts.

Quote

U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions will reply in writing to Senate Democrats' questions about his meetings with Russia's ambassador last year, the Justice Department said on Friday after a top Republican denied Democrats' request for a public hearing.

Nine Democratic senators sent a letter earlier Friday asking Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley to call Sessions before his panel to explain his failure until this week to disclose his contacts with the Russian ambassador during the 2016 presidential campaign.

The letter came a day after Sessions, the country's top justice official and a key ally of Republican President Donald Trump, removed himself from any investigation into alleged Russian meddling in the election.

Grassley replied that he had no plans for a hearing.

Read more: Reuters

 

Edited March 4, 2017 by Claire.
Fixed quotation box.

[F3SS]

Public works, postal service... that's not socialism. Those fit squarely under general welfare. Those things are detrimental to the flow of commerce and the general well being of how things work in this modern country. Taxes and government are a necessary thing but not everything taxes are used for is socialism. That's a stupid strawman meant to make those who rail against Marxist socialism look stupid and uninformed.