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Trump Tower Wiretapped?

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RavenHawk
5 hours ago, Frank Merton said:

Convince me Trump has a conscience.

Convince me you do!?

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Raptor Witness

I think North Korea launches a first strike. It is the only choice they have. really.

 

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DONALD Trump has claimed Barack Obama has been stalking him for the last three decades.

In a series of heavily capitalised tweets, Trump said Obama’s obsession started when his predecessor sat behind him at a screening of Beverley Hills Cop II in 1987.

 

According to the tycoon, Obama can be spotted – in disguise – in the background of Trump’s appearances in Home Alone 2, The Fresh Prince of Bel Air and an episode of Sex and the City from 1999 called The Man, the Myth, the Viagra.

Trump added: “I’ve always felt that someone was lurking nearby.

“He is totally obsessed with me – not the other way around. I think he wants to destroy me because he’s never launched a successful range of steaks like I have.”

White House staff have tried to calm him with a copper bracelet, telling him it is a ‘special Obama-repelling device that emits a frequency that can only be heard by Hawaiians of Kenyan ancestry’.

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http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/trump-claims-obama-has-been-following-him-around-since-1987-20170306123462

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Farmer77
3 minutes ago, alibongo said:

Ya know anymore the line between satire and reality is sooo thin :lol:

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Merc14
11 hours ago, Pop It and Shove It said:

"You guys"? I'm not even American, I'm an observer...

....and a p*** poor one at that!  I'd find another hobby  if I were you.

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Hillary with "no message" still obliterated Trump in the popular vote,

Hillary had a message you p*** poor observer (PPO), it was "4 more years of Obama" .   BTW, the popular vote is irrelevant in a US presidential election and Trump did not campaign for the popular vote, he rightly campaigned to win the electoral vote which he did handily.  Hillary, sure of her win, spent large sums of money the last two or three weeks to win the popular vote as well and she lost because of that decision.  A good observer would've seen that  but , as covered earlier, you are not a good observer, you are a p*** poor one.

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even with Putin trying to destroy her.

Really PPO?  How did he do that, by getting access to Podesta's email account? 

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In other countries, we call that democracy and the will of the people...but not in America.

Well, you see PPO, America is NOT a democracy, it is a representative republic.  We don't elect the president through popular vote so Hillary won a race only she was running. 

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Tell me why the National Security Advisor resigned again?

He lied to the VP

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Yeah, it's just the sore loser media and democrats...no story here, move along...

No story here is right!  You are most definitely a very poor, uneducated observer with an opinion based on ignorance and anger.  You did do a good job of embarrassing yourself, however, so well done there!

 

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Merc14
7 minutes ago, Lilly said:

Uh...you do realize this is a parody, right?

Our UK friends aren't faring very well on this thread.  :rolleyes:

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Clarakore

I think most knew it was parody. A good one at that.

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alibongo
20 minutes ago, Lilly said:

Uh...you do realize this is a parody, right?

You mean it is fake news? Composed of alternative facts?

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Pop It and Shove It
10 hours ago, F3SS said:

Boring. Yawn.

The truth hurts.

9 hours ago, AnchorSteam said:

An abnormally loud and opinionated one.

Funny  how you criticize Putin for this mythical hacking of our election, and yet you do all you can to hack our opinions.

How would you like it if we were doing that too? In fact, there are some pretty crucial ones coming up, and what is about to happen in France might just make for 'Interesting times', as the Chinese used to say. 

If Penn wins, will you blame that on Putin too?

If Penn looses, who will you blame then?

You're the guy who is triggered badly by any criticism of your precious Trumpet...tell me again who is abnormally loud and opinionated. When did the hacking become "mythical"? The 17 intelligence agencies changed their stance since the last time I checked? And hacking isn't even really the main issue, the mass propaganda and fake news about Hillary played a massive role, as did Comey sabotaging her at the final hurdle. Don't forget Trump only *truly* won by like 100k votes across a couple of states. You're so blind or refuse to accept the truth as it doesn't suit your narrative that you boy is a Putin installed puppet. Putin has been installing puppets in Eastern Europe for years, we just never thought he'd succeed in a country like USA... intelligence in France and Germany actually ARE saying right now that the Russians are trying to influence their elections. Would you ever watch some other news source that isn't Fox News?

10 hours ago, LV-426 said:

Bercow suggested he shouldn't be allowed to address parliament. Seeing as he's supposed to be politically neutral as the speaker though, let's see if he has the final say...

Anyway, all this has been done to death in other recent threads.

Seeing as you just returned, you might want to catch up with them before setting the forums ablaze again :P

Ohh, and welcome back ;)

Bercow didn't suggest, he flat out said he won't be inviting him and he has a heavy say in that department. This forum was "ablaze" before I even posted, don't think I did anything to make it worse...

50 minutes ago, Merc14 said:

....and a p*** poor one at that!  I'd find another hobby  if I were you.

Hillary had a message you p*** poor observer (PPO), it was "4 more years of Obama" .   BTW, the popular vote is irrelevant in a US presidential election and Trump did not campaign for the popular vote, he rightly campaigned to win the electoral vote which he did handily.  Hillary, sure of her win, spent large sums of money the last two or three weeks to win the popular vote as well and she lost because of that decision.  A good observer would've seen that  but , as covered earlier, you are not a good observer, you are a p*** poor one.

Really PPO?  How did he do that, by getting access to Podesta's email account? 

Well, you see PPO, America is NOT a democracy, it is a representative republic.  We don't elect the president through popular vote so Hillary won a race only she was running. 

He lied to the VP

No story here is right!  You are most definitely a very poor, uneducated observer with an opinion based on ignorance and anger.  You did do a good job of embarrassing yourself, however, so well done there!

 

It must really pain you that "4 more years of Obama" is what America actually voted for. I'm sure if Trump won the popular vote and lost the electoral college, you'd have nothing to say about it...republicans need the electoral college so bad and your own boy Trump was HATING the electoral college 4 years ago when he WRONGLY thought Obama won it but lost the popular, despite Obama winning the college and the popular vote. 

I'm flattered you have a cute nickname for me. I might do a good job embarrassing myself, but you do a good job of ignoring the facts......but then facts and Trumpets don't tend to mix, unless they're of the alternative variety ;) 

27 minutes ago, Merc14 said:

Our UK friends aren't faring very well on this thread.  :rolleyes:

We're not your friends...whatever war you cook up next, you're on your own ;)

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PRESIDENT Trump has generously granted the world a 24-hour break from his onslaught of lunatic behaviour. 

Across the world, people are waking up to find no news of unhinged executive orders, deranged calls to world leaders or beserk Twitter threats and are overwhelmed with relief.

Nathan Muir of Stockton-on-Tees said: “This is better than Christmas.

“I hadn’t realised how accustomed I’d become to checking the doom device, as I call my phone now, half-asleep then spending all day weighed down by the burden of whatever the psychopath leading the free world had done now.

“Instead I’ve got a spring in my step, a smile on my face, and who knows I might make it to the end of the day without my head in my hands murmuring ‘Oh God oh God we’re all going to die’.”

Muir added: “It’s war tomorrow, I imagine. I’ll just enjoy the break while I can.”

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/trump-kindly-grants-world-a-holiday-from-mental-****-20170203121478

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Derek Willis
42 minutes ago, Merc14 said:

BTW, the popular vote is irrelevant in a US presidential election ...

Due to the arcane system used in UK elections, the current government was voted into power with just 37% of the vote, and the prime minister became prime minister without a single person voting her into that job. Hence, I don't think anyone from the UK can complain about the way US elections are run.

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Pop It and Shove It
8 minutes ago, Derek Willis said:

Due to the arcane system used in UK elections, the current government was voted into power with just 37% of the vote, and the prime minister became prime minister without a single person voting her into that job. Hence, I don't think anyone from the UK can complain about the way US elections are run.

Trump at like 25% of the eligible vote :D You clearly don't understand how the UK voting system works. And if a PM resigns, the party picks the next leader who becomes the PM (and that's the conservative party policy, other parties people directly elect the leader) but maybe you should think about a system like ours...least we know who we're going to get in the cabinet BEFORE  we vote, as the PM can only choose from people who were ELECTED.

Tell me again how Flynn, Sessions, DeVos etc were voted for by the people...

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Farmer77
3 minutes ago, Pop It and Shove It said:

.least we know who we're going to get in the cabinet BEFORE  we vote, as the PM can only choose from people who were ELECTED.

Tell me again how Flynn, Sessions, DeVos etc were voted for by the people...

I did not know that ........ wow yeah we really should look at adopting that particular piece of your system. 

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Derek Willis
8 minutes ago, Pop It and Shove It said:

Uhh you clearly don't understand how the UK voting system works. And if a PM resigns, the party picks the next leader who becomes the PM (and that's the conservative party policy, other parties people directly elect the leader) but maybe you should think about a system like ours...least we know who we're going to get in the cabinet BEFORE  we vote, as the PM can only choose from people who were ELECTED.

Tell me again how Flynn, Sessions, DeVos etc were voted for by the people...

I am British, so I know a bit about how our system works. My point is that it is barely a democratic system. Our first past the post parliamentary system was created as part of the Reform Bill of 1832, and the actual method was chosen by the then prime minister, the un-elected Lord Grey. Yes, our nation is truly democratic!

The turnout at the 2015 election was 65%, so the government was elected with 24% of the eligible vote - so what is your point?

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Pop It and Shove It
1 minute ago, Derek Willis said:

I am British, so I know a bit about how our system works. My point is that it is barely a democratic system. Our first past the post parliamentary system was created as part of the Reform Bill of 1832, and the actual method was chosen by the then prime minister, the un-elected Lord Grey. Yes, our nation is truly democratic!

Conservatives got the most votes and to be fair there was a referendum on changing it and the people rejected it. And I was never preaching of the UK being perfect (we have a Royal Family ffs) but we don't have losers by 3 million here becoming PM..

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Derek Willis
6 minutes ago, Pop It and Shove It said:

Conservatives got the most votes and to be fair there was a referendum on changing it and the people rejected it. And I was never preaching of the UK being perfect (we have a Royal Family ffs) but we don't have losers by 3 million here becoming PM..

Yes, I remember the referendum. Trouble was the other option was the Alternative Vote system, which is no better than first past the post, in fact it is worse in many ways because you are forced to give your second and third options to people you might not agree with.

My point is that we in Britain have no right to criticize the US system because we too can vote people into power with a relatively small percentage of the electorate.

I am not taking sides here, but do you think Hillary would have stood down if she had won with a minority of the popular vote? I doubt it.

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Pop It and Shove It
Just now, Derek Willis said:

Yes, I remember the referendum. Trouble was the other option was the Alternative Vote system, which is no better than first past the post, in fact it is worse in many ways because you are forced to give your second and third options to people you might not agree with.

My point is that we in Britain have no right to criticize the US system because we too can vote people into power with a relatively small percentage of the electorate. 

But that's the same everywhere. In Germany and France, the winner will probably be someone who only has 30/40% of the vote but that means the remaining percent is split between different parties. I'm not complaining about a percentage, Hillary would have only had 25% too if she had won, but not getting the job when 3 million more people voted for you...that's mob rule. Americans like to talk about America being the beacon of democracy and "leader of the free world" but doesn't practise what it preaches.

The system is never going to change anyway, the republican states won't allow it. After all, this is the second Presidency they've won in a short space of time despite not winning over the majority of those who vote.

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aztek
13 minutes ago, Pop It and Shove It said:

Conservatives got the most votes and to be fair there was a referendum on changing it and the people rejected it. And I was never preaching of the UK being perfect (we have a Royal Family ffs) but we don't have losers by 3 million here becoming PM..

lol, 3 millions is nothing, 1\3 1\6th of Los Angeles. that is exactly why we do not use popular vote,

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Pop It and Shove It
1 minute ago, aztek said:

lol, 3 millions is nothing, 1\3 of Los Angeles. that is exactly why we do not use popular vote,

Yeah, who needs democracy...

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aztek
2 minutes ago, Pop It and Shove It said:

Yeah, who needs democracy...

by democracy you mean tyranny of majority? no we do not need that.

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If Trump Tower Was Wiretapped, Trump Can Declassify That Right Now

If in fact Trump Tower was wiretapped during the 2016 presidential campaign, as President Trump claimed in several tweets Saturday morning, he can do much more than say so on twitter: Presidents have the power to declassify anything at any time, so Trump could immediately make public any government records of such surveillance. What Trump is saying seems to be a garbled version of previous reporting by the BBC, among other news outlets.

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That was my first thought when the tweet popped up. I`m in the opinion that the POTUS has unlimited access to all kind of classified files so it would be easy for him to check the relevant sources first to avoid another Tweeter burb.

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Pop It and Shove It
Just now, aztek said:

by democracy you mean tyranny of majority? no we do not need that.

Tyranny of the majority hahahaha I've heard it all.

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yep, that is  exactly what it is, we do not need few large cities in the country decide the election.

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