stereologist Posted March 20, 2018 #251 Share Posted March 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Fila said: You keep bringing him up..., I remember. I just don't care. Its one person.., and not knowing about Tim doesn't affect the case imo.., nor move it forward in any way. This is my legitimate response as to why all witness reports of any event vary. I just don't place importance on this as you do. If you can explain how and why this affects the case.., and how this is better than my suggestion of moving the case forward.., then I might realise where you are coming from. If you disagree with any claim I made.., please let me know. But please don't disregard my response as "handwaving". I really want to stop going around in circles. Meaningless? If you cannot understand this simple sentence.., then I have no choice but to cease communications with you on this topic. I feel like I am wasting my time and I cannot keep going around in circles. Sorry bud. I'll still read your posts and will respond to relevant material.., but if I ignore certain parts of your posts just understand this is why. Stop the anger. Calm down. There is no reason to be so furious. Get your together. Your irate comments are not needed. Collect yourself. You know nothing about the Phoenix Lights. You continue to state Tim Ley's position time after time. Calm down. There is no need to repeat his statement. Your fumbling statements about witness variations needs to be sorted out. You wrote " Going off reports from witnesses.., the craft was very large. " That's rubbish. Show the witness statements. I know you can't because you've never looked into the Phoenix Lights. Fila time for you to provide what the witnesses stated. Use witness statements to: Tell us how many lights were seen that night. Choices range from 4 to 11. Tell us the shape seen that night. Choices include boomerang, half circle, vee, straight line, no shape. Tell us if the lights were high or low. Tell us if the lights moved fast or slow. Tell us the color of the lights. Choices include red, green, blue, white. orange. Tell us how many craft there were that night. Choices range from 1 to 12. Tell us the size of the supposed craft. Choices include small to a football field to nearly a mile across. Tell us if the lights consistently moved in the same direction or not. I suspect this is going to be really hard to figure out since you've never really looked into the issue. Tell us if stars could be seen between the lights or not. Again, this might be really hard to figure out for you since it is very clear you've never looked into the issue. Tell us if the lights passing overhead ever were audible. This is not as hard as the previous two statements but I expect you to fail miserably. Tell us if witnesses ever reported the number of lights changing. Take a deep breath. Suppress that hate. Exhale slowly. Time to answer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fila Posted March 20, 2018 #252 Share Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) lol Stereo. I have already explained my position and you keep ignoring my posts and questions I ask. This is where I am currently up to, and how I would prefer to spend my time moving the case forward. OBSERVATION (Research) HYPOTHESIS (Theories 1 & 2) PREDICTION EXPERIMENT / TEST / VERIFY CONCLUSION THEORY 1: Secret military aircraft The military did admit to having aircraft in the area after 10pm dropping flares.., but nothing earlier. Apparently the Governor of Arizona called the Commander at Luke Air Force Base, the General in charge of the National Guard, and the head of the Department of Public Safety in 1997. None of these officials had answers, and they were "perplexed", he says. - http://www.ufoevidence.org/news/article349.htm This may be verified by contacting the Airforce base and making a FOIA request. http://www.foia.af.mil THEORY 2: Formation of planes A pilot reported unknown lights to ATC, who confirmed there were no other aircraft in the area. PLANE TAIL NUMBER: Bonanza 2 Tango Sierra. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wR_dxZJGWfU This may be verified by contacting local airfields, and asking for flight records for that evening. FAA Freedom Of Information: https://www.faa.gov/foia/foia_request/ (The yellow circles are airports) http://knowbeforeyoufly.org/air-space-map/ Edited March 20, 2018 by Fila Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted March 21, 2018 #253 Share Posted March 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Fila said: lol Stereo. I have already explained my position and you keep ignoring my posts and questions I ask. This is where I am currently up to, and how I would prefer to spend my time moving the case forward. ** Snipped BS ** Fila time for you to provide what the witnesses stated. Use witness statements to: Tell us how many lights were seen that night. Choices range from 4 to 11. Tell us the shape seen that night. Choices include boomerang, half circle, vee, straight line, no shape. Tell us if the lights were high or low. Tell us if the lights moved fast or slow. Tell us the color of the lights. Choices include red, green, blue, white. orange. Tell us how many craft there were that night. Choices range from 1 to 12. Tell us the size of the supposed craft. Choices include small to a football field to nearly a mile across. Tell us if the lights consistently moved in the same direction or not. I suspect this is going to be really hard to figure out since you've never really looked into the issue. Tell us if stars could be seen between the lights or not. Again, this might be really hard to figure out for you since it is very clear you've never looked into the issue. Tell us if the lights passing overhead ever were audible. This is not as hard as the previous two statements but I expect you to fail miserably. Tell us if witnesses ever reported the number of lights changing. Take a deep breath. Suppress that hate. Exhale slowly. Time to answer. Your refusal to answer tells me that you posted a big fat lie when you claim anything at all about witness statements. Your continued fury and anger and vitriol are because you have been caught in posting a series of lies. Instead of posting more angry lies simply admit you have lied about witness statements. Stop ignoring my posts and respond. Fila time for you to provide what the witnesses stated. Use witness statements to: Tell us how many lights were seen that night. Choices range from 4 to 11. Tell us the shape seen that night. Choices include boomerang, half circle, vee, straight line, no shape. Tell us if the lights were high or low. Tell us if the lights moved fast or slow. Tell us the color of the lights. Choices include red, green, blue, white. orange. Tell us how many craft there were that night. Choices range from 1 to 12. Tell us the size of the supposed craft. Choices include small to a football field to nearly a mile across. Tell us if the lights consistently moved in the same direction or not. I suspect this is going to be really hard to figure out since you've never really looked into the issue. Tell us if stars could be seen between the lights or not. Again, this might be really hard to figure out for you since it is very clear you've never looked into the issue. Tell us if the lights passing overhead ever were audible. This is not as hard as the previous two statements but I expect you to fail miserably. Tell us if witnesses ever reported the number of lights changing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted March 21, 2018 #254 Share Posted March 21, 2018 This is a big fat lie "OBSERVATION (Research)" The evidence that you have not done a drop of research is overwhelming. The main proof of that is your anger over not responding to the lie about witness reports. You begin a list with a lie. Nothing after that initial lie can be trusted. Fila time for you to provide what the witnesses stated. Use witness statements to: Tell us how many lights were seen that night. Choices range from 4 to 11. Tell us the shape seen that night. Choices include boomerang, half circle, vee, straight line, no shape. Tell us if the lights were high or low. Tell us if the lights moved fast or slow. Tell us the color of the lights. Choices include red, green, blue, white. orange. Tell us how many craft there were that night. Choices range from 1 to 12. Tell us the size of the supposed craft. Choices include small to a football field to nearly a mile across. Tell us if the lights consistently moved in the same direction or not. I suspect this is going to be really hard to figure out since you've never really looked into the issue. Tell us if stars could be seen between the lights or not. Again, this might be really hard to figure out for you since it is very clear you've never looked into the issue. Tell us if the lights passing overhead ever were audible. This is not as hard as the previous two statements but I expect you to fail miserably. Tell us if witnesses ever reported the number of lights changing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fila Posted March 24, 2018 #255 Share Posted March 24, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 11:17 AM, stereologist said: Fila time for you to provide what the witnesses stated. Use witness statements to: Hi Stereo. I have sent you a PM so we can try and sort this loop out without disrupting the forum and flooding threads with spam type messages. Hope to talk soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted March 24, 2018 #256 Share Posted March 24, 2018 12 hours ago, Fila said: Hi Stereo. I have sent you a PM so we can try and sort this loop out without disrupting the forum and flooding threads with spam type messages. Hope to talk soon. Fila time for you to provide what the witnesses stated. Use witness statements to: Tell us how many lights were seen that night. Choices range from 4 to 11. Tell us the shape seen that night. Choices include boomerang, half circle, vee, straight line, no shape. Tell us if the lights were high or low. Tell us if the lights moved fast or slow. Tell us the color of the lights. Choices include red, green, blue, white. orange. Tell us how many craft there were that night. Choices range from 1 to 12. Tell us the size of the supposed craft. Choices include small to a football field to nearly a mile across. Tell us if the lights consistently moved in the same direction or not. I suspect this is going to be really hard to figure out since you've never really looked into the issue. Tell us if stars could be seen between the lights or not. Again, this might be really hard to figure out for you since it is very clear you've never looked into the issue. Tell us if the lights passing overhead ever were audible. This is not as hard as the previous two statements but I expect you to fail miserably. Tell us if witnesses ever reported the number of lights changing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted March 24, 2018 #257 Share Posted March 24, 2018 On 20/03/2018 at 9:49 PM, Fila said: moving the case forward. - yeah ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minimalists Posted March 24, 2018 #258 Share Posted March 24, 2018 On 3/13/2017 at 9:50 PM, Paranormal Gal said: http://www.ufosightingsdaily.com/p/us-presidents.html?m=1 You really did not post that link I know...One of the biggest ufo hoax sites on the web! Scott Waring runs it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted March 25, 2018 #259 Share Posted March 25, 2018 @Alien Origins Quote: Astronomy attracts crackpots like a jam jar attracts wasp.....Don't recall who said it. do you mean: 'Astrology'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fila Posted March 25, 2018 #260 Share Posted March 25, 2018 5 hours ago, Dejarma said: - yeah ok Hi Dejarma. Would you be able to help me understand better? Stereo and I are having some difficulties with comprehending each others ideas. Thank you in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minimalists Posted March 25, 2018 #261 Share Posted March 25, 2018 9 hours ago, Dejarma said: @Alien Origins Quote: Astronomy attracts crackpots like a jam jar attracts wasp.....Don't recall who said it. do you mean: 'Astrology'? No. Actually its "Astronomy" and the quote was by Sir Patrick Moore....Took me a while to find it and now I have to edit it because I quoted it wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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