Windowpane Posted August 10, 2020 #3426 Share Posted August 10, 2020 56 minutes ago, Hanslune said: https://www.academia.edu/386944/New_Light_on_Human_Prehistory_in_the_Arabo_Persian_Gulf_Oasis?email_work_card=view-paper Some interesting considerations that the present Persian Gulf was an 'oasis' during a long period of time before being flooded out recently. And guess what some people have made of this ... As fetchingly illustrated by Hedy Lamarr ... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanslune Posted August 10, 2020 #3427 Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Windowpane said: And guess what some people have made of this ... As fetchingly illustrated by Hedy Lamarr ... Hey people have been puzzling over where those pesky Sumerians came from - they were obviously proto-Arabs so the world earliest civilization was really Arabs - must email my Arab nationalist 'friends' with the news! So that's Heady eh, what movie was that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harte Posted August 10, 2020 #3428 Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Windowpane said: And guess what some people have made of this ... As fetchingly illustrated by Hedy Lamarr ... Harte 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windowpane Posted August 10, 2020 #3429 Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Hanslune said: ... So that's Heady eh, what movie was that? Not really sure ... Samson and Delilah? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanslune Posted August 11, 2020 #3430 Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Windowpane said: Not really sure ... Samson and Delilah? I always like to see people wearing metal armor in day to day life. I've worn armor (for the American SCA) and Niten ichi ryu and other Koryu Japanese arts. It ain't comfortable. ) and it is anything but comfortable. Edited August 11, 2020 by Hanslune 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 11, 2020 #3431 Share Posted August 11, 2020 15 hours ago, Hanslune said: Niten ichi ryu The irony is I don't think Musashi wore armour. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanslune Posted August 11, 2020 #3432 Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Piney said: The irony is I don't think Musashi wore armour. The guys bashing me with rattan and bamboo seemed too! Edited August 11, 2020 by Hanslune 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 11, 2020 #3433 Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Hanslune said: The guys bashing me with rattan and bamboo seemed too! I was just made to read Go Rin No Sho. Jianshu outclasses kenjitsu hands down and katanas suck. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanslune Posted August 11, 2020 #3434 Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Piney said: I was just made to read Go Rin No Sho. Jianshu outclasses kenjitsu hands down and katanas suck. Unless you're in a field battle I fought in a few with several hundred people on each side. One rule I remember, 'if your hands are empty of a weapon you are either a fool or dead.{paraphrased I don't quite recall what exactly it was - but something in that line!') 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 11, 2020 #3435 Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Hanslune said: Unless you're in a field battle I fought in a few with several hundred people on each side. One rule I remember, 'if your hands are empty of a weapon you are either a fool or dead.{paraphrased I don't quite recall what exactly it was - but something in that line!') Too many moves for armour and we don't reenact. *Never give a sword to a man who can't dance*.......I forgot who said it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted August 11, 2020 #3436 Share Posted August 11, 2020 5 hours ago, Hanslune said: The guys bashing me with rattan and bamboo seemed too! Too much to hope I was one of those that bashed you over the head. I think I was before your time. When I got sent to Japan on business, my flight stopped in Singapore on the way back. I spent a day there, found a ratan dealer, bought 100 ten foot sticks and had them shipped back to sell at events. Made gas money and bought a beverly shear. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted August 11, 2020 #3437 Share Posted August 11, 2020 5 hours ago, Piney said: The irony is I don't think Musashi wore armour. I would think if you were dueling a single person, armor would be too cumbersome. When I was in Japan 1980's, my part time tour guide was a 70 year old WWII vet. When not tied up with business, I got to go to several museums with him and some great lunches. He took me to a sword museum, can't remember where it was now. He was knowledgeable about swords and I asked him something about that. He said he used to go up into the mountains with his sword and meditate. He was about 5'4", wrinkled and bald as an egg with a good laugh. I have no doubt he did just that. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanslune Posted August 12, 2020 #3438 Share Posted August 12, 2020 (edited) 19 hours ago, Piney said: Too many moves for armour and we don't reenact. *Never give a sword to a man who can't dance*.......I forgot who said it. We did full impact - a few broken finger bones from all that. We also once found out why there was rule that when two groups approached each other at (traditional word for about 50 feet) you had to have both formations stop completely then continue at half pace. Twenty-five Americans encountered a group of about four hundred Japanese in a column formation. They were big and decided not to stop, we didn't know the rule - the impact was VERY impressive! Edited August 12, 2020 by Hanslune 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanslune Posted August 12, 2020 #3439 Share Posted August 12, 2020 19 hours ago, Tatetopa said: Too much to hope I was one of those that bashed you over the head. I think I was before your time. When I got sent to Japan on business, my flight stopped in Singapore on the way back. I spent a day there, found a ratan dealer, bought 100 ten foot sticks and had them shipped back to sell at events. Made gas money and bought a beverly shear. I was active from 1974 or so to 79 in the Barony of the Western sea or some such (Hawaii), The SCA date of AS XII on one photo I have. I still have one rattan weapon a six foot 'sword-on-a-stick' glaive or Naginata.(used more like a Kanabo due to SCA rules). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted August 12, 2020 #3440 Share Posted August 12, 2020 14 minutes ago, Hanslune said: I was active from 1974 or so to 79 in the Barony of the Western sea or some such (Hawaii), The SCA date of AS XII on one photo I have. I still have one rattan weapon a six foot 'sword-on-a-stick' glaive or Naginata.(used more like a Kanabo due to SCA rules). I salute your seniority grandfather, 1977-1981 An Tir. The best events I participated in were the An Tir - West wars with 100-150 fighters. I used an ox tongue type spear about 5' and two handed Dane ax. I was not good enough to pull off a round shield and sword. People with heaters generally beat me in single combat. Course it could have been my lack of skill as much as weapon choice.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 25, 2020 #3441 Share Posted August 25, 2020 “Great Spirits of All Who Lived Before”: Exploring the Original Peopling of the Americas Through the Examination of Paleoindian Skeletal Remains https://www.academia.edu/33044674/_Great_Spirits_of_All_Who_Lived_Before_Exploring_the_Original_Peopling_of_the_Americas_Through_the_Examination_of_Paleoindian_Skeletal_Remains?email_work_card=minimal-title Just ran a cursory over it. It doesn't seem too bad except on the skull shape stuff. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thanos5150 Posted August 25, 2020 #3442 Share Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Piney said: “Great Spirits of All Who Lived Before”: Exploring the Original Peopling of the Americas Through the Examination of Paleoindian Skeletal Remains https://www.academia.edu/33044674/_Great_Spirits_of_All_Who_Lived_Before_Exploring_the_Original_Peopling_of_the_Americas_Through_the_Examination_of_Paleoindian_Skeletal_Remains?email_work_card=minimal-title Just ran a cursory over it. It doesn't seem too bad except on the skull shape stuff. Again, what is wrong with the "skull shape stuff"? Edited August 25, 2020 by Thanos5150 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanslune Posted August 25, 2020 #3443 Share Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Piney said: “Great Spirits of All Who Lived Before”: Exploring the Original Peopling of the Americas Through the Examination of Paleoindian Skeletal Remains https://www.academia.edu/33044674/_Great_Spirits_of_All_Who_Lived_Before_Exploring_the_Original_Peopling_of_the_Americas_Through_the_Examination_of_Paleoindian_Skeletal_Remains?email_work_card=minimal-title Just ran a cursory over it. It doesn't seem too bad except on the skull shape stuff. Phew, long read. From the conclusion: Quote This conclusion represents not an end, but a genesis. The beginning of new ideas and approaches, the introduction of more diverse perspectives, and the continued synthesis of multiple data sources as well as the acquisition of new information. Only through inclusivity, attention to detail, scholarly cooperation, and an insatiable desire for the truth can the most holistic understanding of America’s First Peoples be revealed. Confusing chart with bad resolution but colorful! I had to look up the word dolichocephalic, which is odd as I had a girl friend named that once. Edited August 25, 2020 by Hanslune 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 25, 2020 #3444 Share Posted August 25, 2020 5 hours ago, Thanos5150 said: Again, what is wrong with the "skull shape stuff"? It doesn't work when a group is a happy mixture of both types such as Algonquians, Siouian, and many Northern Asian/Siberian ethnic groups. I love when they say the skull shows a "Mongolian morphology" and "Europoid" then the genes are all the same. The Skull Shaped stuff went out in the 90s no matter what my former employer says...... That being said, I'm putting you on ignore. Don't bother to quote me. I won't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 26, 2020 #3445 Share Posted August 26, 2020 @Hanslune @Kenemet I can't message you both at the same time for some reason. I found my sister and my vintage Ryukyu-O'ahu shirasaya used to teach cutting and I can't match it online. Hans probably had the same one. I'll take pictures on Saturday when the camera comes home. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanslune Posted August 26, 2020 #3446 Share Posted August 26, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Piney said: @Hanslune @Kenemet I can't message you both at the same time for some reason. I found my sister and my vintage Ryukyu-O'ahu shirasaya used to teach cutting and I can't match it online. Hans probably had the same one. I'll take pictures on Saturday when the camera comes home. Probably, my last one got crushed in a move, now my Wakazashi and Katana just sit forlornly on a Chinese rosewood in-table. I gave my tachi to a nephew some years ago.Still have a nice 17th century Yari and tangashima thou. Edited August 26, 2020 by Hanslune 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thanos5150 Posted August 26, 2020 #3447 Share Posted August 26, 2020 (edited) 19 hours ago, Piney said: It doesn't work when a group is a happy mixture of both types such as Algonquians, Siouian, and many Northern Asian/Siberian ethnic groups. I love when they say the skull shows a "Mongolian morphology" and "Europoid" then the genes are all the same. The Skull Shaped stuff went out in the 90s no matter what my former employer says...... That being said, I'm putting you on ignore. Don't bother to quote me. I won't see it. I speak the truth and you choose to ignore it? Good for you. And the point of quoting you is not for your benefit. Sorry, but I am going with your "former employer", the Smithsonian if Piney has not reminded you today, and every one else on this one. No, the "skull shaped stuff" did not go out in the '90's or ever and is part and parcel of modern forensic anthropology. If anyone is actually interested in this "skull shaped stuff" here is a start: Evaluation of ancestry from human skeletal remains: a concise review. And HERE. A recent example how it is applied: Craniometrics Reveal “Two Layers” of Prehistoric Human Dispersal in Eastern Eurasia Edited August 26, 2020 by Thanos5150 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenemet Posted August 27, 2020 #3448 Share Posted August 27, 2020 14 hours ago, Piney said: @Hanslune @Kenemet I can't message you both at the same time for some reason. I found my sister and my vintage Ryukyu-O'ahu shirasaya used to teach cutting and I can't match it online. Hans probably had the same one. I'll take pictures on Saturday when the camera comes home. ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted August 30, 2020 #3449 Share Posted August 30, 2020 On 8/26/2020 at 8:16 PM, Kenemet said: ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!! On 8/26/2020 at 10:20 AM, Hanslune said: Probably, my last one got crushed in a move, now my Wakazashi and Katana just sit forlornly on a Chinese rosewood in-table. I gave my tachi to a nephew some years ago.Still have a nice 17th century Yari and tangashima thou. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenemet Posted August 30, 2020 #3450 Share Posted August 30, 2020 16 hours ago, Piney said: OOOOOOOOooo!!!! Love me some slashy-stabby things! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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