Trump fires FBI Director Comey

[preacherman76]

1 hour ago, Einsteinium said:

If it was, the MSM would be calling it another one of many scandals involving Trump, and Trump supporters would be angrily defending Trump claiming this was 'fake news' and 'leftist propaganda'.

Since it was Obama, the MSM did call him out on it, multiple times, I remember seeing many left wing media pundits bashing AG Holder over this and Obama and especially right wing pundits. But let us not forget Operation Wide Reciever which was the precursor to operation fast and furious and was started during the Bush administration.

Well yea, that's cause he isn't involved in any real scandals. 95% of the crap they spew is fake news. 

Awe they were "bashing" Holder? Are you kidding me? He should be behind bars. Him along with several others. Including 0bama if it could be proved he knew about it. Being he didn't bother even firing a single person over it, I think it's safe to assume he did. The media swept it under the rug soon as they could.

These people GAVE DRUG CARTELS ASSAULT WEAPONS! Which resulted in the death of a boarder patrol agent no less. God knows how many innocent Mexicans have been slaughtered with those guns. 

Edited May 11, 2017 by preacherman76

[Unusual Tournament]

1 hour ago, Merc14 said:

What conclusions are you talking about?  You do realize that they have been investigating the Trump campaign since last July and all heads of intelligence departments have testified that there is no evidence of collusion, right?   No evidence and Comey told Trump he was not under investigation but he didn't say anything else so how would Trump know that he didn't like the conclusions?     he didn't and all he knew that he was cleared by the FBOI so please tell me why he would fire Comey over that?

The facts speak for themselves, Merc... the DoJ authorised the FBI to further investigate Clinton and any possible Russian connection to Trump. Comey didn't act outside of the chain of command. It's obvious the investigation went places that are sensitive to Trump and Trump fired Comey. Trump expected to be exonerated and Clinton charged. Instead, It seems from Trumps dismissal of Comey, it would seem to be an attempt to stop any further investigations concerning Trump and ties to Russia. Flynn and others have already been implicated. There's fish in the stream, Merc... Cause prior investigations took place that haven't made a connection to Trump that doesn't mean that no more can. Which is what Trump wants to stop before it takes any more of his Lieutenants and quite possibly Trump too. What other conclusions can you draw? 

[DarkHunter]

26 minutes ago, Lilly said:

The coasts voted for Clinton...the fly over states did not.

The coast did vote for Clinton in general, but California gave Clinton 8,753,788 votes (13.29%) of her votes and New York gave her 4,556,124 votes (6.92%) of her votes.  Two states gave her 20.21% of her total votes out of 50 states.

Of those two states, in California, Los Angeles county alone gave her 2,464,364 votes.  As for New York, New York City alone gave Clinton 2,191,869 votes.  

When looking at other areas around the coast most of them are between about 55/45 and 60/40 but New York City was about 80/20 and Los Angeles was about 70/20 with 10 voting independent.  Those two cities alone made up 7.07% of Clinton's total votes.

It's just amazing how concentrated Clinton's support was in the election.

[aztek]

those guns were pi$$ in a sea.  cartels do not need our guns,  they have thousands of mexican soldiers desert the army, and join cartels, you can be sure they take their guns with them when they leave, fully automatic, not semi auto that sold here

[aztek]

3 minutes ago, Captain Risky said:

The facts speak for themselves, Merc... the DoJ authorised the FBI to further investigate .........

lol, where do you pull this stuff from????

Last week, FBI Director James Comey announced the agency wasreviewing a new set of emails recently discovered. The emails could be important to an investigation into Clinton’s email practices that was closed earlier this year. Hillary Clinton is the Democratic candidate for president.

The FBI director reportedly acted on his own to announce the reopened investigation, after being warned by officials at the U.S. Department of Justice not to. The officials reportedly told Comey that informing Congress about the new material was not in line with department policy.

 

 

[Unusual Tournament]

1 minute ago, aztek said:

lol, where do you pull this stuff from????

Last week, FBI Director James Comey announced the agency wasreviewing a new set of emails recently discovered. The emails could be important to an investigation into Clinton’s email practices that was closed earlier this year. Hillary Clinton is the Democratic candidate for president.

The FBI director reportedly acted on his own to announce the reopened investigation, after being warned by officials at the U.S. Department of Justice not to. The officials reportedly told Comey that informing Congress about the new material was not in line with department policy.

 

 

Thanks aztec. Wasn't aware of that. Explains everything.

[RavenHawk]

4 hours ago, Einsteinium said:

I am not talking about the MSM, I am talking about US, the people. We held Hillary to a much higher standard than Trump- one of the reasons why he was elected. Now look at the mess he is making of things, we have become the laughing stock of the world, a government reality TV show that people just cannot stop watching.

They were both held to the same standard.  It’s just that Trump was closer to that standard than Hilary was.  Because of that, the Progs placed the idea that there were two separate standards.  And that we were easier on Trump than Hilary.  Meanwhile, the MSM would hammer Trump and give Hilary a pass.  The reason that Trump won is that he connected with the people.  Hilary never did.  Trump is not making a mess of things.  He is shaking up the status quo of the Establishment.  Which he promised to do.  We were the laughing stock of the world during the previous 8 years.  Things have now changed and the world isn’t laughing anymore.  We are beginning to regain our old position of leadership in the world.

4 hours ago, Einsteinium said:

Trump brings it on himself, the media does not even have to try very hard to find things to bash him for, he keeps feeding them more scandals, questionable statements, bungled interviews, and blatant hypocrisy that they can't even keep up with it all and have to pick and choose which things to criticize him for.

The MSM is bashing Trump on anything they can find even if they have to invent something.  It doesn’t matter what it is, the MSM will turn it into a crisis.  It reminds me of the scene from “The Outrageous Okona” when Data learns about comedic timing.  The audience was programmed to laugh at anything Data said.  That is what the MSM is trying to do to the public.  They are trying to program the people to think Trump is messing things up.  And the low information voter is falling for it.

 

The media is doing exactly what they should be doing, holding a wanna-be autocrat US president under the microscope and scrutinizing every move he makes. That is why we have an independent media, so they can do exactly this in this type of environment.

If that is the case then they went awol during the last eight years.  We don’t have an independent media.  We have an active propaganda arm of the Progressive party.

4 hours ago, Einsteinium said:

I would argue that Brexit is a terrible idea,

Globalization is just a bad idea.  It is the new socialism.  This was the whole reason this nation was created.  To offer something better.

 

and that illegal immigration has not and does not pose a serious threat,

If you don’t understand why illegal immigration is not a serious threat then you are in for a rude awakening.  Who are most illegals?  They are the poor masses.  They bring poverty, disease, and crime with them.  These are things that can overwhelm a nation.  These are people that come from a way of life that is alien from ours and you think that they should just settle right into this new way of life problem free?  That is a difficult thing to do especially for a group that may not be motivated enough to be here.  En masse, there is no encouragement or direction to assimilate.  And assimilation is critical for the stability of a nation.  Without it a nation cannot exist.

 

the wall is a stupid idea for many reasons.

It’s not a stupid idea but it is overkill.  Whether it is a wall or a line drawn in the desert, it still requires bodies to man it.  A wall will make that easier but the biggest thing is, depending on how it is designed, could severely affect the ecology.  I have my own design but I won’t get into it here.

 

Heavier retaliation against ISIS? The MOAB was already in country ready to be used when Obama was president. Don't buy into the smoke and mirrors that Trump is putting in front of you. You are smarter than that.

I’m not sure I follow you here.  The attack on Shayrat and the Achin district was a message sent to enemies and allies alike.  Don’t mess with us, we’re back!

 

So they should not be allowed to use anonymous sources? Many people would be too afraid for their lives/career to come forward as on the record sources but still want to alert the people about things going on behind the scenes, should the media just ignore these people even when the media knows who they are and knows why they want to remain anonymous? 

Anonymous sources shouldn’t be used as qualifying statements.  They should be viewed with a grain of salt until they can be verified by other means.  They should just lead the reporter to follow other leads.

[preacherman76]

11 minutes ago, DarkHunter said:

The coast did vote for Clinton in general, but California gave Clinton 8,753,788 votes (13.29%) of her votes and New York gave her 4,556,124 votes (6.92%) of her votes.  Two states gave her 20.21% of her total votes out of 50 states.

Of those two states, in California, Los Angeles county alone gave her 2,464,364 votes.  As for New York, New York City alone gave Clinton 2,191,869 votes.  

When looking at other areas around the coast most of them are between about 55/45 and 60/40 but New York City was about 80/20 and Los Angeles was about 70/20 with 10 voting independent.  Those two cities alone made up 7.07% of Clinton's total votes.

It's just amazing how concentrated Clinton's support was in the election.

What's even worse most of NY voted for Trump. It was the city that took us out of the equation. Like always. 

[Why not]

All is not great in Trump land, but it's not what the Dem's and the MSM would like and want you to believe. 

Just imagine for one minute what it would be like if the media reported it the way it SHOULD be reported. You know without prejudice to one side.   I know, I'm just in la la land.

[+and-then]

40 minutes ago, Captain Risky said:

The facts speak for themselves, Merc... the DoJ authorised the FBI to further investigate Clinton and any possible Russian connection to Trump. Comey didn't act outside of the chain of command. It's obvious the investigation went places that are sensitive to Trump and Trump fired Comey. Trump expected to be exonerated and Clinton charged. Instead, It seems from Trumps dismissal of Comey, it would seem to be an attempt to stop any further investigations concerning Trump and ties to Russia. Flynn and others have already been implicated. There's fish in the stream, Merc... Cause prior investigations took place that haven't made a connection to Trump that doesn't mean that no more can. Which is what Trump wants to stop before it takes any more of his Lieutenants and quite possibly Trump too. What other conclusions can you draw? 

 

Risky, how much do you know about the FBI?  I don't mean that you have to be an expert to discuss its actions but you seem unaware of just how massive an organization it is.  The boss manages the organization.  The number two in the organization, Andrew McCabe, in testimony today denied two major stories that are being peddled as fact.  

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-11/mccabe-crushes-trump-interference-narrative-there-has-been-no-effort-impede-our-inve  In case you might assume this guy is a republican shill, his wife ran for office in VA and was supported by McAullife, HRC's great friend.  He points out that NOTHING is going to stop this investigation, nothing HAS been done to slow or even impair it and that the stories about "significant new funding" requests were false.  The FBI has a budget just like everyone else in government and they don't DO such requests for individual cases.  I tell you man, if you want to be taken seriously in this discussion, you really should be critical in your sources.  There is a whole lot of straight up lying to the public being done by "news" organizations.

[+and-then]

50 minutes ago, Captain Risky said:

Flynn and others have already been implicated.

Implicated in what, exactly?  Please source this.  Flynn made $45000 ( I think that's the sum) for a speaking engagement in Dec of 2015.  He also was an "agent" (legal term, NOT spy) for Ukraine.  He recently had some documents subpoenaed in this matter and I can assure you that if he committed ANY crime, no matter how slight, he's going to be crucified by the media and grossly uninformed citizens like yourself.  That is disgusting, imo, but it STILL does not come anywhere near proving some nebulous theory of collusion to damage our electoral process.  These b******* on the Left are tearing this nation apart in an effort to remove a president they don't like.  When Trump is finally cleared by lack of evidence, you and those like you will STILL, NEVER admit you were wrong.  That's why all of you are becoming irrelevant.  People with no honor or integrity are a waste of carbon, IMO.

[Why not]

I really am amazed that people think the reason for the firing of Comey was Trump trying to stop the investigation of himself. Do they really think with Comey being gone that the FBI is now going to just drop the case?  I haven't been keeping up with the freak shows (MSM) lately, but is that really how they are spinning this? I have not trusted the media for many years now, but it's gotten to where I have a general hatred for them now.

[Unusual Tournament]

56 minutes ago, and then said:

Risky, how much do you know about the FBI?  I don't mean that you have to be an expert to discuss its actions but you seem unaware of just how massive an organization it is.  The boss manages the organization.  The number two in the organization, Andrew McCabe, in testimony today denied two major stories that are being peddled as fact.  

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-11/mccabe-crushes-trump-interference-narrative-there-has-been-no-effort-impede-our-inve  In case you might assume this guy is a republican shill, his wife ran for office in VA and was supported by McAullife, HRC's great friend.  He points out that NOTHING is going to stop this investigation, nothing HAS been done to slow or even impair it and that the stories about "significant new funding" requests were false.  The FBI has a budget just like everyone else in government and they don't DO such requests for individual cases.  I tell you man, if you want to be taken seriously in this discussion, you really should be critical in your sources.  There is a whole lot of straight up lying to the public being done by "news" organizations.

Andrew Macabe looks set to get the nod to be the next FBI director. I expect he's looking at his own end game so don't try and sell the "impartial" angle to me. Your link is incomplete and therefore can't verify whatever point your trying to make. But I assume you are trying to somehow make out that a rogue director is fishing for political reasons and that MSN just can't be trusted to tell the truth. Flynn lied to Pense about his connections and meeting with Russian "businessmen." Which is hogwash and just saving Trumps ****. Flynn received moneys from Turkish "businessmen" to lobby on behalf of the Turkish government.

 http://theglobepost.com/2017/03/14/flynns-connection-to-turkey-explained/. 

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/connections-trump-putin-russia-ties-chart-flynn-page-manafort-sessions-214868

The man is tainted. It stands to reason that others in Trumps administration including possibly Trump at least new of his meetings. Are you seriously suggesting that together with internet leaks and Trumps own admission of asking for Russian help during the election that the FBI should just wrap up an investigation? 

Clearly, at least to me, Trump is impeding an investigation. Macabe has clearly signaled that if he is given the top job he will be a Trump man. 

[Unusual Tournament]

1 hour ago, and then said:

Implicated in what, exactly?  Please source this.  Flynn made $45000 ( I think that's the sum) for a speaking engagement in Dec of 2015.  He also was an "agent" (legal term, NOT spy) for Ukraine.  He recently had some documents subpoenaed in this matter and I can assure you that if he committed ANY crime, no matter how slight, he's going to be crucified by the media and grossly uninformed citizens like yourself.  That is disgusting, imo, but it STILL does not come anywhere near proving some nebulous theory of collusion to damage our electoral process.  These b******* on the Left are tearing this nation apart in an effort to remove a president they don't like.  When Trump is finally cleared by lack of evidence, you and those like you will STILL, NEVER admit you were wrong.  That's why all of you are becoming irrelevant.  People with no honor or integrity are a waste of carbon, IMO.

...so Flynn just decided that he will spin a few bucks outta his new position without anyone knowing or do you think that he was given a nod by senior Trump people to make connections?

[F3SS]

This is so stupid.

To Trump's detractors he is a bumbling dufus, a con and a fraud, a bad actor from reality tv, a compulsive liar living off his dads money, not the business magnate he claims to be, worth half of what he says he's worth and a litany of other things that paint him as a much smaller deal than he thinks he is.

Yet they believe that Putin, an all powerful dictator worth over $70 billion backed by the resources of a world superpower, was persuaded into colluding with this bumbling small deal conman who was then waging a presidential campaign that none of these detractors along with a large part of the world never thought stood a chance to win at the time?

Please. That's about as absurd as those same people who think Bush had an IQ slightly above his bra size helped mastermind 9-11 as an inside job. These presidents are either genius criminal masterminds or bumbling idiots. They can't be both.

[Frank Merton]

4 minutes ago, F3SS said:

This is so stupid.

To Trump's detractors he is a bumbling dufus, a con and a fraud, a bad actor from reality tv, a compulsive liar living off his dads money, not the business magnate he claims to be, worth half of what he says he's worth and a litany of other things that paint him as a much smaller deal than he thinks he is.

Yet they believe that Putin, an all powerful dictator worth over $70 billion backed by the resources of a world superpower, was persuaded into colluding with this bumbling small deal conman who was then waging a presidential campaign that none of these detractors along with a large part of the world never thought stood a chance to win at the time?

Please. That's about as absurd as those same people who think Bush had an IQ slightly above his bra size helped mastermind 9-11 as an inside job. These presidents are either genius criminal masterminds or bumbling idiots. They can't be both.

You got it wrong -- Putin isn't "colluding" with Trump, he supported Trump because he knew Trump would to the US the most possible damage and even here and there Trump being so stupid (one of those narcissists who is smart in a few ways and convinces himself he is really smart in all ways) Putin might find ways to use him.

[AnchorSteam]

6 hours ago, Einsteinium said:

How far you have sunk when the media, left or right wing, but the legitimate media is now considered an 'enemy'.

How far our great nation has sunk to reach this point.

Do you think that Walter Cronkite or John Chancellor would have conducted themselves the way the evening "resist" goons pretending to be Journalists are today?

Sunk indeed, but it isn't the Nation, it is the talking heads that have fallen, and you know it.

So does everyone else, which is why the ratings are in the toilet and nobody looks at it unless they want to see non-stop anti-Trump propaganda taking up the entire broadcast. None of the Enemy have ever allowed themselves to utter a syllable that could reflect positively on Trump. This is a statistical impossibility and is one of the many items that has crushed their credibility.

As things stand, Lawyers and Congressmen are more popular. At the rate they are going, Dentists will beat them out by next Tuesday. 

 

6 hours ago, Einsteinium said:

Yeah, everything is the fault of 'the left'- this terrible scourge of socialists/communists that is destroying our country. Nevermind that Mitt Romney (ring wing guy) stated in 2012 that Russia was the #1 enemy of the nation. The neo-conservatives have been beating that drum for decades.

Neo-Cons were the worst thing that ever happened to the Repubs, and made me abandon that Party.

See, unlike the Left, I value my loyalty to the Nation more than I do the Party affiliation I used to have. Try it sometime, you folks may feel so much better that you wonder why you ever put up with being so conflicted all the time!

BTW- those low-down scum called Neo-Cons are why we have been going down the wrong track with Russia. Putin's Govt gladly facilitated our offensive in Afghanistan ... and Bush shafted then for it! And from there, it has been all down-hill.

 

6 hours ago, Einsteinium said:

It is funny to me that you and others on here think I am a leftist. People I work with and actually interact with in real life would tell you that I am a centrist. How far right we must have slid for a centrist to be considered a hardcore leftist LOL.

So what?

It is literally impossible for me to imagine you having any friends to the Right of Jane Fonda.

In Germany and Japan of the 1980s, I was considered a typical American. The Mullah I met in Singapore though I was a remarkably open-minded fellow.... today in Berkeley or L.A. or new York I could only be seen as a total Nazi by anyone that didn't want to be excommunicated from the High Church of Progressivism. 

6 hours ago, Einsteinium said:

The Russians clearly are trying to undermine and influence our nations people. That should be alarming to all of us regardless of left or right affiliations. The Russians must not be allowed to continue doing this as they very well could cause a war if they are not careful. We should not bow down before the Russians, we should hold them accountable for their actions. This is about standing up for our nation and not letting another nation influence the direction of our politics, I would be saying the same thing if it was Canada (or any other nation) who was meddling in our political process.

George Patton could not have said it any better!

In 1946...

Things have changed a bit since then, you might want to look that up someday. Among other things, an economically challenged nation of 145 million just isn't the threat it once was, and is unlikely to ever be one again. 

Now, that was a nice speech, but do you have any evidence that backs it up? Factual stuff, all this noisy fluff is getting tiresome, and I just don't have time for any more of it. 

[The Silver Thong]

3 hours ago, DarkHunter said:

The coast did vote for Clinton in general, but California gave Clinton 8,753,788 votes (13.29%) of her votes and New York gave her 4,556,124 votes (6.92%) of her votes.  Two states gave her 20.21% of her total votes out of 50 states.

Of those two states, in California, Los Angeles county alone gave her 2,464,364 votes.  As for New York, New York City alone gave Clinton 2,191,869 votes.  

When looking at other areas around the coast most of them are between about 55/45 and 60/40 but New York City was about 80/20 and Los Angeles was about 70/20 with 10 voting independent.  Those two cities alone made up 7.07% of Clinton's total votes.

It's just amazing how concentrated Clinton's support was in the election.

This is why the Electoral College exists. To represent the states with far fewer people. 

[F3SS]

No Frank you have it wrong. The accusations are of collusion. Moral support isn't tangible. FBI investigations are being demanded for collusion, a real and tangible thing. Support is wishing someone the best and isn't a crime. Collusion is dedicating some type of resource to actively assist and in this case, accusation, would be a crime. 

All that aside why is that we are susceptible to Russian manipulation and not the other way around. We have an exponentially larger economy, more resources, a bigger military, likely more intelligence yet they pull our strings? That's a crock. I really think Putin has a lot more in his own country to deal with rather than dedicate his resources to the greatest psy-op ever pulled off in manipulating the minds of millions of Americans within a span of a few months to cast their vote a certain way. 

The truth is, like many here thought at the time, that Trump was always going to win. The signs, literal signs, were everywhere. Hillary never had a chance. Nobody liked her, ever.

Edited May 12, 2017 by F3SS

[Frank Merton]

The collusion was during the election; now we've moved on to why Putin wanted Trump.   He realized what a disaster for America Trump would be, and that he wants.

I don't think Putin is any smoking genius either.  I think they are both rather evil in their own ways.  Putin a cold-blooded murderer,  Trump is a con artist who seems only to steal and lie, not kill.  At least I hope that is the case.

Edited May 12, 2017 by Frank Merton

[AnchorSteam]

1 minute ago, Frank Merton said:

The collusion was during the election; now we've moved on to why Putin wanted Trump.

Without any Proof, you are moving on to ever deeper conspiracy theories...

Don't we have a board for that here?

 

Newsflash; Trump isn't the one that is even being investigated.

Just in case you folks forgot about that little item. 

1 minute ago, Frank Merton said:

  He realized what a disaster for America Trump would be, and that he wants.

Even a kid knows that Trump wasn't even a factor in Putin's calculations.

It is Hillary that would have been a disaster for Russia.

And that is what concerns the average Russian, not our little circuses here in La-La land. 

1 minute ago, Frank Merton said:

I don't think Putin is any smoking genius either.  I think they are both rather evil in their own ways.  Trump is a cold-blooded murderer, Trump is a con artist who seems only to steal, not kill.

I'm just gonna take this as proof positive that there are a lot of people in this world who need to set aside their obsession and think about something else for a while.

Go rent a movie, I suggest "Passengers" or "Cloud Atlas" or "the Secret life of Walter Mitty".

All of them are beautiful and rather under-rated, IMHO. 

[Frank Merton]

I think Hillary would have been pretty bad, but America got worse.  I was glad I didn't have to vote.

[Likely Guy]

1 hour ago, F3SS said:

This is so stupid.

To Trump's detractors he is a bumbling dufus, a con and a fraud, a bad actor from reality tv, a compulsive liar living off his dads money, not the business magnate he claims to be, worth half of what he says he's worth and a litany of other things that paint him as a much smaller deal than he thinks he is.

Yet they believe that Putin, an all powerful dictator worth over $70 billion backed by the resources of a world superpower, was persuaded into colluding with this bumbling small deal conman who was then waging a presidential campaign that none of these detractors along with a large part of the world never thought stood a chance to win at the time?

Please. That's about as absurd as those same people who think Bush had an IQ slightly above his bra size helped mastermind 9-11 as an inside job. These presidents are either genius criminal masterminds or bumbling idiots. They can't be both.

He is a bumbling dufus...

Putin could buy him or sell him... hence?

Completely agree with you on the third part  as well.

Edited May 12, 2017 by Likely Guy

[RavenHawk]

2 hours ago, Frank Merton said:

The collusion was during the election; now we've moved on to why Putin wanted Trump.   He realized what a disaster for America Trump would be, and that he wants.

Hilary would have been the disaster.  She would have been the third term of Obama.  Trump has been very clear about returning America back to greatness.  How is that a disaster?  It might be a disaster for the social engineer.  You talk about what would be a disaster for America?  Destruction of her institutions would be a disaster.  Do you know how to destroy a nation?  You attack its borders, language, and culture.  You know what mass migrations do don’t you?  It first destroys a nation’s borders.  People can come and go as they please.  That does away with identity.  If there is no one standard language then there is a schism in the day to day business and life.  When a nation becomes multicultural then there is no desire to assimilate and each individual peoples form enclaves and there is no unity.  Progs lead through confusion and lack of unity.  You do these things and you can bring a nation down to its knees.  This is what Trump is fighting against.  If Putin wanted to bring America to her knees, he would have supported Hilary.  Common sense would seem to disprove this collusion theory.  Wouldn’t be something if it was discovered that there was collusion but between Hilary and Putin and it failed?

[+DieChecker]

6 hours ago, and then said:

Implicated in what, exactly?  Please source this.  

I have to agree. I've seen no evidence what so ever. 

Here is what the Media is calling evidence....

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/connections-trump-putin-russia-ties-chart-flynn-page-manafort-sessions-214868

People meeting with people = collusion... NOT! 

Look at Rex Tillerson alone. He's a former CEO of ExxonMobil, and is accused of... gasp!... Talking to Russian oil/energy firms!! SHOCKING AND STAGGERING!!! Not.... What is so unusual about contacting other energy firms?? That's not evidence, that's a CEO doing his job...

Bill Clinton met with Loretta Lynch alone on a plane and then the Hillary investigation stopped. But, no smoke, or fire there, according to the Media, because Billy said so.

This going after Trump and his aids is basically McCarthyism.

Quote

McCarthyism is the practice of making accusations of subversion or treason without proper regard for evidence.^[1] The term refers to U.S. Senator Joseph McCarthy and has its origins in the period in the United States known as the Second Red Scare, lasting roughly from 1947 to 1956 and characterized by heightened political repression as well as a campaign spreading fear of influence on American institutions and of espionage by Soviet agents.

So far I've seen no evidence and yet plenty of accusations. That's McCarthyism. And that is just plan wrong.