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Merc14
2 hours ago, DieChecker said:

More clues to how the Russians controlled the weather to give the GOP a win in Georgia?? ;)

Seriously.... Has the thread gone from the Firing of Comey to Climate Change denial?

Yeah, once it goes there a thread never recovers as the high priests argue doctrine and scream heresy until the thread is closed.  They may as well close it now as this particular high priest is a zealot.

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RavenHawk
1 hour ago, Uncle Sam said:

Not to mention being able to affect our planet on a global scale would mean we would be playing with fire.

I preferred your first comment about a Type I Civilization.  That was the one I was going to reply to.  But by the time we do reach that level, our society will have naturally (not wasting trillions of wealth on ineffectual programs) reduced its dependency on fossil fuels.  Some estimate that it’ll be another 2 centuries before we get there.  Which will be about the same time that we go into a cooling period.  The then incarnation of socialists will then demand that we spend trillions to keep the CO2 levels high so we don’t fall into a devastating cold where billions will die.  Of course I blame Comey for this.

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On 6/20/2017 at 2:21 PM, Einsteinium said:

Prove it.

I believe it has been.  Remember Foval and Creamer?  They were a consulting group hired by the DNC and they in turn hired individuals to disrupt Trump rallies.

 

Yes, they did, not to the same extent but they did nonetheless. You must have forgotten about it and I can forgive you for that given that it was 8 years ago.

That’s the point.  Not to the same extent.  One can show displeasure in the choice of President and that doesn’t make it racist or misogynistic or whatever.  You can even hang something in effigy and it is acceptable expression of free speech.  It’s when the intent becomes violent as opposed to just expression.  The Right rarely if at all participated in harming others or destruction of property.  It has only been the Left that have exhibited this intensity of violence in the numerous news clips of late.  It has always been the Left.

 

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2009/racist-backlash-greets-president-barack-obama

Yes, there is racism out there but it was not connected to Conservatives.  That’s sort of disingenuous trying to equate racism with free expression of speech because the President was Black.  Again, you are conflating issues.  You do realize that he is also White??  If you have a Presidential candidate who is Black, who do you think racists will vote for?  Does that make Republicans racist?  If you remember correctly the KKK was an arm of the Democratic Party.  And again, what you are missing is that all of these incidents on your list are isolated.  It is not organized as it is with the Left against the Right.  Unfortunately we would still have such isolated racist actions no matter who the President is.  That list is probably the typical police blotter for any given night.

 

I am not basing it on what the Progs have said, I am basing this on just what Trump himself has said. He has said a great deal of mysoginistic comments, he has called for violence at his rally's, and he has shown racism in the past when he refused to house black people in one of his housing developments (ending in a lawsuit that he settled)- and his whole Obama 'birther' thing which was clearly racist (if he was a white guy named Mike this never would have come about).

Yes, you are basing it on the party line and nothing but.  You’re being lead around by your Prog nose ring.  Rosie barely meets the requirements for being a woman.  Carly and Megyn had issues with Trump; not because they were women.  Locker room talk is just that.  Both men and women do that and it’s normal and healthy.  This is not Misogyny.  We’ve been through this already.  He doesn’t call for violence at his rallies but he knows that some come to his rallies looking for violence.  We’ve been through this too.  The person that keeps espousing the party line even when shown that it is wrong is the one that quaffs the koolaid.  Poverty level can affect one’s ability to be responsible, i.e. in paying rent.  Unfortunately many of the poor are Black. Is excluding a certain poverty level discrimination of a certain race or just means?  I think it is a developer’s right to assure that persons of minimal means don’t have access to the property.  How many landlords on the Left would be willing to open their properties to those that can’t pay?  The Birther movement was not racist.  It was about abiding by the law and transparency.  This issue is still in doubt but as I’ve said many times already, it is a moot point.  I think every Presidential candidate in the General should have a forensic examination of their BC done.  That would solve this problem.  Make it an hour long TV special.

 

As I said, this is my point.  I never saw any reference of either play in the MSM.  I remember the one about the assassination of Bush.  They kept that one out there for a while and praised it.  That is why the MSM is responsible for encouraging those like Hodgkinson on their shooting spree.  Can you image what would have happened if they did the same with Obama?

 

Some on the left, yes this is true, but it is also true that some on the right espouse nothing but hate for the left for no other reason than hatred. Do claim otherwise is to live in a fantasy world. Both sides have bad apples and that was my entire point. The vast majority of protests against Trump have been overwhelmingly peaceful. To claim that most progs are violent hateful people is a lie, most progs are like most conservatives, peaceful people who have a certain ideological perspective.

That is just not so and to make that equivalence is living in a fantasy world.  Whatever hatred that the Right holds for the Left is earned by action and ideology.  And the Right will tend to avoid if possible.  The ideology of the Left is Socialism.  It just happens to be the enemy of the People and the Constitution.  Because of that the Left just hates out of jealousy.  The ideological perspective of the Left is to use violence to get their way.  It is a sister ideology to Islam.  Create anarchy through various forms of intimidation and then take over.

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Einsteinium
3 hours ago, RavenHawk said:

The ideological perspective of the Left is to use violence to get their way.  It is a sister ideology to Islam.  Create anarchy through various forms of intimidation and then take over.

Yeah, okay (rolls eyes)

The right can do no wrong and are the true Americans, the left is a bunch of hateful socialists hell bent on destroying the nation to get their way. Got it. 

And you think I am drinking the prog koolaid, clearly you are drinking the Hannity fox news koolaid. 

I recognize the appeal of living in a fantasy world, so I understand where you are coming from. 

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RavenHawk
On 6/23/2017 at 1:54 PM, Einsteinium said:

Yeah, okay (rolls eyes)

Didn’t mean to confuse you.

 

The right can do no wrong and are the true Americans,

I’m not talking about the Right.  They are not perfect either but they are not controlled by an ideology counter to the Constitution.  Or at least not yet.

 

the left is a bunch of hateful socialists hell bent on destroying the nation to get their way. Got it. 

That’s exactly right but you don’t have it.  Enslaving the populace with dependency and controlling them through social engineering is not building up a nation.  The ruling elite are not Monarchy.  They are servants of the people.  But they seem to think they know better.  They need to be stripped of that kind of despot power.

 

And you think I am drinking the prog koolaid, clearly you are drinking the Hannity fox news koolaid. 

Let’s see… Madcow and O’Donnell (wouldn’t it be nice) on one side and Hannity on the other?  Yes, you are drinking the koolaid.  Hannity gets over worked at times but when you dial him back, he’s hitting you with the numbers.  You have to weed through that and pay attention to the numbers.  That’s the tell.

 

I recognize the appeal of living in a fantasy world, so I understand where you are coming from. 

If I knew how to go live in your world of the low information voter, I would.  It must be nice to just follow what the politicians have in plan for you (escapism).  Those of us that live in the real world know we don’t have much choice but at least we don’t accept things like cattle being lead to the slaughter.

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Ellapennella
On 6/21/2017 at 9:35 PM, Likely Guy said:

Stupidity? Then you should really check out the real effects of solar cycles on the earth's climate before opening your mouth again.

Hey, why are you so off topic?

Topic :Trump fires FBI Director Comey

Recommended by Jeff Sessions and Rod Rosenstein

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Ellapennella
On 6/22/2017 at 9:38 AM, Einsteinium said:

No, this is just not true RavenHawk. We now know that man IS in fact the primary contributor to climate change. This is not up for debate anymore and hasn't been for over a decade now.

Oh I see some are somehow connecting this thread to climate change.

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Farmer77
Just now, Ellapennella said:

Oh I see some are somehow connecting this thread to climate change.

I think the correlation is Trump's decision making ability.......or lack thereof. 

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Ellapennella
On 6/21/2017 at 10:05 PM, RavenHawk said:

After 75 pages, you’re guaranteed to wander from the main point.  Has anyone brought up Hitler yet?  I would rather see climate change off topic than how annoying Likely Guy is.  Even though there is more proof of one, climate change is far more interesting.

Austrians were Hitler friendly same as some in the world are to the socialist/Marxist/communist  movement. What intelligence overseeing  America  would allow for communism to take down our nation.

I didn't know who Obama was talking about when he said that they needed  to" level the playing field" . I think it means what Joe Biden is describing here.

https://archive.org/details/youtube-kAGhyFHnuv8

 

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Guess what, Mr Biden probably shouldn't 'count his chickens' too quickly. Just because a person is racially or ethnically a minority doesn't mean they will automatically embrace the values of the Progressive left. There are Black, Hispanic, Asian, Native American people who are *gasp* Conservatives!

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Farmer77
Just now, Lilly said:

Guess what, Mr Biden probably shouldn't 'count his chickens' too quickly. Just because a person is racially or ethnically a minority doesn't mean they will automatically embrace the values of the Progressive left. There are Black, Hispanic, Asian, Native American people who are *gasp* Conservatives!

Largely societal evolution dictates that they will embrace the values of the progressive left. Hell based on 1995 definitions the republican party has embraced the values of the progressive left. 

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20 minutes ago, Ellapennella said:

What intelligence overseeing  America  would allow for communism to take down our nation.

Exactly, what intelligence?  But it is doing it.  It’s an intelligence based on control and dominance.  Slavery has been the basic economic factor since the time of Man began.  The Constitution threatened that but we have always had Patriots that stand up against it.

 

I didn't know who Obama was talking about when he said that they needed  to" level the playing field" . I think it means what Joe Biden is describing here.

That’s what confuses the issue and why it is hard to define it.  This is a poor first attempt to do so.  Ultimately, it doesn’t matter what race or culture one comes from.  It matters that they assimilate into the American culture.  It is true that predominantly European cultures defined what the American Culture developed into and even though it can be considered similar to European Culture, it is not European Culture.  Some consider that the “American way” is white and that would be wrong.  Max Weber identified the term “Protestant Work Ethic”.  It is the basis for how this country was built and became powerful.  Again, this began in Europe and declined, took hold here but is now flourishing in China.  It is not a White concept.  When immigrants come to America, they do so to become American and escape their predicament from the old country.  Other than Islam, most immigrants don’t come here trying to setup the way of life they were trying to escape.  The point of immigration is to find something different and better from where they came from.  Trying to create the same thing would be an exercise in stupidity?  But that’s what Leftists want.  The American way is not racist but it is xenophobic and requires complete assimilation.  Only through that will the American culture grow stronger and remain American, no matter what cultures and races are minorities or who the ruling elite may be.

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41 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

Largely societal evolution dictates that they will embrace the values of the progressive left. Hell based on 1995 definitions the republican party has embraced the values of the progressive left. 

It depends.  If the ruling elite encourages the dumbing down of immigrants, they will become Progs.  Not really Progs but chattel or low information cogs (slaves).  If immigrants assimilate to American culture, in time they will tend to be Conservative.  It’s no secret that the Republican Party has been hijacked by Socialism just as the Democratic Party has been for about a century now.  What is needed is for American Conservatives of all races and creeds to rise up.

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Ellapennella
21 minutes ago, Lilly said:

Guess what, Mr Biden probably shouldn't 'count his chickens' too quickly. Just because a person is racially or ethnically a minority doesn't mean they will automatically embrace the values of the Progressive left. There are Black, Hispanic, Asian, Native American people who are *gasp* Conservatives!

 But, something more sinister has happened. I couldn't understand it at first. But, it makes sense when you view over what's become of Europe. And when you search into the EU & Agenda 21  Have you figured out why the UN voted that Israel had no rights to what is their heritage ?

 

 

 

 

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RavenHawk
54 minutes ago, Lilly said:

Guess what, Mr Biden probably shouldn't 'count his chickens' too quickly. Just because a person is racially or ethnically a minority doesn't mean they will automatically embrace the values of the Progressive left. There are Black, Hispanic, Asian, Native American people who are *gasp* Conservatives!

I suspect that with the Hijrah going on in Europe, there will be an influx of Europeans immigrating to this country which will reverse Biden’s assumption that the Caucasian will become a minority here.  Assuming we get a handle on illegals entering this nation.

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Ellapennella
19 minutes ago, RavenHawk said:

Exactly, what intelligence?  But it is doing it.  It’s an intelligence based on control and dominance.  Slavery has been the basic economic factor since the time of Man began.  The Constitution threatened that but we have always had Patriots that stand up against it.

 

 

 

That’s what confuses the issue and why it is hard to define it.  This is a poor first attempt to do so.  Ultimately, it doesn’t matter what race or culture one comes from.  It matters that they assimilate into the American culture.  It is true that predominantly European cultures defined what the American Culture developed into and even though it can be considered similar to European Culture, it is not European Culture.  Some consider that the “American way” is white and that would be wrong.  Max Weber identified the term “Protestant Work Ethic”.  It is the basis for how this country was built and became powerful.  Again, this began in Europe and declined, took hold here but is now flourishing in China.  It is not a White concept.  When immigrants come to America, they do so to become American and escape their predicament from the old country.  Other than Islam, most immigrants don’t come here trying to setup the way of life they were trying to escape.  The point of immigration is to find something different and better from where they came from.  Trying to create the same thing would be an exercise in stupidity?  But that’s what Leftists want.  The American way is not racist but it is xenophobic and requires complete assimilation.  Only through that will the American culture grow stronger and remain American, no matter what cultures and races are minorities or who the ruling elite may be.

What is Deep State? Who moves governments? For who's influence to benefit what?

You are very smart but you don't see something happening , and it's very important,  because you are blinded by something, and I know what it is.

Keep focusing on race and color and remain distracted by that. Meanwhile,other's in the game know what  it's really about.

 Do some  research on matters that you're unaware of.

Assimilation was never part of the plan.

 

 

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RavenHawk
16 minutes ago, Ellapennella said:

What is Deep State? Who moves governments? For who's influence to benefit what?

You are very smart but you don't see something happening , and it's very important,  because you are blinded by something, and I know what it is.

Keep focusing on race and color and remain distracted by that. Meanwhile,other's in the game know what's it's really about.

 

That’s my point.  This isn’t about race although race will be used as a tool of anarchy.  Obama was good at it.  And the snowflakes are still doing his bidding.  What you are referencing are the Illuminatis.  The Deep State isn’t even a player, but a piece on the board.  And I don’t think that the Illuminatis are as powerful as they think they are.  But they are strong enough to set things into motion.  And they get their power from how well they can fool the people or how docile they can get us to be.  Welfare has been a tried and true method.  It’s bread and circuses.  The more we get, the more we’re bought.

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Ellapennella
15 hours ago, RavenHawk said:

That’s my point.  This isn’t about race although race will be used as a tool of anarchy.  Obama was good at it.  And the snowflakes are still doing his bidding.  What you are referencing are the Illuminatis.  The Deep State isn’t even a player, but a piece on the board.  And I don’t think that the Illuminatis are as powerful as they think they are.  But they are strong enough to set things into motion.  And they get their power from how well they can fool the people or how docile they can get us to be.  Welfare has been a tried and true method.  It’s bread and circuses.  The more we get, the more we’re bought.

 Deep State is always the main player. Obama warned President Trump " good luck in trying to get passed intelligence"   Didn't really understand what "Change" Obama was promoting meant either, most people I don't think did. His advisor Van Jones stated that they've been white lashed.Comey and others  had to understand the assault that was upon our nation. Petraeus was writing articles  was paid millions to push the transformation agenda forward." forward" is another word that is coded with them. Wesley Clark was once head of NATO and on record stating that "There is no room in today's Europe for ethnically pure states" he was promoting the same change forward that you see Biden promoting. Why do you think they denied Israel what is rightfully connected to them?  Trump looks at Merkel with disgrace not because he's wrong but for the sinister deed  she has done to the people. They've become alienated by forced integration. You understand war. * anti white + propaganda + phenomenon= psychological warfare = with us or against us. it's why they used trigger words like racist* to shut you down and keep you shut up . Only white countries have forced immigration from the 3rd world with no vote.  . Searching the answers of why the real reason for the influx of migration upon Europeans - forced integration  is a genocide scam on Europeans.Forced immigration in all and only white countries. Forced integration into all and only all white countries. Forced assimilation promoting miscegenation all day and all night in the mass media. No one is forcing non European countries  to become multicultural.   Both parties have to agree on forced immigration on only white countries or it's racist. Why do you think Netanyahu  and Trump have so much agreement in common? People  that want  " Change & transformation" of our world accuse these men of being everything bad when in fact they are not bad,they are right. There's a huge overreach of data for forced integration. The  fair housing act- millions of dollars are spent to make white areas not white. They have programs of diversity to* chase down* every white person. I didn't understand what and then was saying about the demographics until I started looking into it.Connect and research the real reason why  the push for open borders? When the parent culture dissipates because of  Government  level of  corruption   the end game is genocide. Look into the Pew research center.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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