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Trump fires FBI Director Comey

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AnchorSteam
10 minutes ago, Merc14 said:

What does it say about the democrat party that a massively corrupt, and embarrassingly stupid, 78 year old Maxine Waters is their new superstar?  Well done DNC.

They don't call her Mad Maxine for nothing. That Loon is about the same as every other California Demikraut; Older than Dirt and determined to bring the world down with them into their graves. 

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Merc14
7 minutes ago, Captain Risky said:

...you're assuming that Hillary is guilty. Comley and the FBI had ample opportunity to lay a case and didn't. Thing is Astra, that only a new director of the FBI will be able to prove it. Let's just wait and see whether the investigation into Clinton is even started up and wherever it goes any where. 

As it stands Hillary 1 Trump 0  

Seriously?  I'll C&P from an earlier post on this subject:

I wonder how much investigating Comey has actually been doing.  He gave immunity to all the key players without getting any info from them.  Have you ever heard of such a thing?   He even destroyed their computers before anyone, including FBI agents, could look at them.  Does that sound like an investigation to you?  People leaked unmasked names from classified surveillance and, as you laid out, that leaker should be very easy to track yet nothing.  

I think he was a democrat operative plain and simple and Trump screwed up, once again, by leaving another (see Susan Yates) corrupt Obama appointee in power.   He needed to drain the swamp on day one but he didn't, he left Obama people in power and they have been sabotaging him everyday since and Comey was the worst one of  the bunch.

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Astra.
38 minutes ago, Merc14 said:

Gowdy is a superb prosecutor and an excellent representative but he is a guy that needs to be public and out front on TV, at least IMHO, and that is not something that the director of the FBI should be doing.   Once again, just my opinion Astra and if Gowdy desired the job I'd be very happy and comfortable having him assume the job but I'd rather he stays out front.

Oh, I agree and I can't see him taking on the new roll as Director of the FBI. He does a great job already as being a fine prosecutor.

He comes over as being a strong, up front and a 'no nonsense' individual who has much integrity, and has little time for fools. In fact, there needs to be more like him.

38 minutes ago, Merc14 said:

If there was any intelligence evidence at all that there was collusion it would've leaked by now.   there is nothing there except the Obama administration's unprecedented misuse of our foreign intelligence gathering used to spy on Obama's political opponents.   Now that Comey is gone a real investigation can begin.

Well I understand that since you are a home-grown American, you certainly know far more than I do, in regards to your politics.

I guess tho, if an investigation does continue into these alleged Russian ties, then the Trump admin should have nothing at all to be concerned about. There was a time that I was caught up in a lot of the conspiracy jargon involving Russia and some of Trumps team. But until something has been proven beyond doubt, then I'm going to take much of it with a grain of salt.

Yep, I'm glad Comey has gone as well...."out with the old - in with the new."

The American people deserve a more honest, less politically involved FBI director whom is able to instil confidence and trust with the people...and one who simply stays focused on the job that he/she is required and expected to do, without stepping the line.

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Hammerclaw

To have a special prosecutor you have to have some evidence of a crime to justify it. There is no such evidence, just suspicion and accusations. The public is made privy to private communications of Trump's team but no access to the evidence supporting the allegations of Russian meddling. What evidence could one lone individual from outside the government gain access to, that the whole judicial and legislative branch and the combined resources of the intelligence community can not? Because they are supposedly non partisan? Where do you find such an individual for what amounts to a partisan witch hunt? 

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15 minutes ago, Astra. said:

I guess tho, if an investigation does continue into these alleged Russian ties, then the Trump admin should have nothing at all to be concerned about. There was a time that I was caught up in a lot of the conspiracy jargon involving Russia and some of Trumps team. But until something has been proven beyond doubt, then I'm going to take much of it with a grain of salt.

Yep, I'm glad Comey has gone as well...."out with the old - in with the new."

The American people deserve a more honest, less politically involved FBI director whom is able to instil confidence and trust with the people...and one who simply stays focused on the job that he/she is required and expected to do, without stepping the line.

Yeah, sadly I am very aware of our politics Astra and I am here to tell you that the investigation into the Russian/Trump collusion will NEVER END!!!!!  The democrats can't accept that the sure thing Hillary, the worst possible candidate imaginable, actually lost to Trump and so instead of addressing their problems they are blaming the Russians.  It's laughable really and the biggest problem isn't that a terribly flawed Hilary lost again, t is the fact that they have lost 1200+ elected seats across the country at the state and federal levels.  They have become a regional party at best.

But hey, blame Russia and deny your agenda is actually the real problem works for me.  The biggest problem is the republicans are even dopier and refuse to capitalize on their enemies self destruction.

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Astra.
24 minutes ago, Captain Risky said:

...you're assuming that Hillary is guilty. Comley and the FBI had ample opportunity to lay a case and didn't. Thing is Astra, that only a new director of the FBI will be able to prove it. Let's just wait and see whether the investigation into Clinton is even started up and whether it goes any where. 

As it stands Hillary 1 Trump 0  

I have to head out in a sec...but as far as I'm concerned Risky....she was as guilty as anyone could be. What about all of the deleted emails that she wiped off her sever etc..?....only somebody with something to hide would do something like that. That in itself spoke volumes...and Comey for some reason...got her off the hook...and said she was simply being careless ??....what a load of tripe.

I hope another new investigation into her is re-opened...and the Clinton/ email can of worms will spill out into the light...and the truth will finally be told for once and for all.

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Gromdor

The Jeff Sessions recommending it thing does raise an eyebrow.  He recused himself from the Trump/Russia investigation partially because he had undisclosed contact with the Russian Ambassador prior to his becoming AG.  So to avoid conflict of interest in an investigation, he stepped away.  But then he turns around and recommends the firing of Comey who is in charge of some of the investigations between Trump/Russia.  Trump could have saved him a lot of hassle by keeping the recommendation secret instead of putting it on paper or simply saying it was a decision he came up with himself.

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RavenHawk
1 hour ago, AnchorSteam said:

Expect 4 more years of the same old crap.... or just tune it out! That's my suggestion,

I don’t think that will be the case.  There is no way that the Progs can keep this pace up for 4 or 8 years.  Eventually, they will make such a fool of themselves that even the most brain dead of their sheeple will wake up.  My jaw is already in the down position and I love it!

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Raptor Witness

I'm glad that Comey is gone. His whole "nauseous" statement about his publicizing Hillary's email scandal, while ignoring Trumps much worse scandal is unforgivable to me.

He clearly was trying to influence the election, likely for his own benefit. I would change the word to "disgusting."

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RavenHawk
1 hour ago, Captain Risky said:

...you're assuming that Hillary is guilty. Comley and the FBI had ample opportunity to lay a case and didn't. Thing is Astra, that only a new director of the FBI will be able to prove it. Let's just wait and see whether the investigation into Clinton is even started up and whether it goes any where. 

As it stands Hillary 1 Trump 0  

Seriously?  Comey laid out the case but decided not to proceed.  It doesn’t matter who the next FBI director is, all they would have to do is dust off the case file and deliver it to the Deputy AG.  A Grand Jury would be shortly empanelled.  Hilary is so far behind that she is between a rock and a hard place.  I would suggest that she go visit those distant relatives in those nations that donated to her foundation, like Saudi Arabia.

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The Silver Thong
On 2017-05-09 at 9:18 PM, AnchorSteam said:

Last I heard, most of his co-workers and even his wife had stopped talking to him, and that was lat Fall! 

 I have no clue about that but im sure he got a very generous severance package. For some reason I think Comey will be back in the news pretty soon and not for the good he did but for what he hid. 

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The Silver Thong
13 minutes ago, RavenHawk said:

Seriously?  Comey laid out the case but decided not to proceed.  It doesn’t matter who the next FBI director is, all they would have to do is dust off the case file and deliver it to the Deputy AG.  A Grand Jury would be shortly empanelled.  Hilary is so far behind that she is between a rock and a hard place.  I would suggest that she go visit those distant relatives in those nations that donated to her foundation, like Saudi Arabia.

Hmmm moving to a non extradition nation, makes one think, maybe Clinton can rent a room. 

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RavenHawk
5 minutes ago, The Silver Thong said:

Hmmm moving to a non extradition nation, makes one think, maybe Clinton can rent a room. 

 

Nice.  Sending compartmentalize TS material over an open network is not intentional but some porn on a computer is a federal case.

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Why not
23 minutes ago, RavenHawk said:

I don’t think that will be the case.  There is no way that the Progs can keep this pace up for 4 or 8 years.  Eventually, they will make such a fool of themselves that even the most brain dead of their sheeple will wake up.  My jaw is already in the down position and I love it!

I don't think they will be able to keep this up a whole lot longer myself. Especially the media. The sky can't be falling every day. Even the most hard headed liberal will realize the pure BS the MSM pushes daily is just a load of scare tactics. The media is in constant melt down over everything and anything that comes out of the White House. The blatant disrespect from most of the so called journalist towards any of the Presidents people is sickening. If I was Kellyanne, I would have back handed that little twerp Cooper's glasses right off his smug little face. It used to be funny watching the melt down, now it's scary the lies and spin coming out of our "fair and honest press". 

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The Silver Thong
1 minute ago, RavenHawk said:

 

Nice.  Sending compartmentalize TS material over an open network is not intentional but some porn on a computer is a federal case.

 I know right. Did not Bill Clinton get impeached for something far worse like cheating on his wife and leaving evidience of his you know, intern. Even if the admirl did look at porn, that I doubt big time I would hate to get pulled over. A cop might find a playboy mag in my trunk. Obama and Clinton are getting a free pass the same as Comey is. The hypocracy is so nasty when it comes to Killary and thinking that her secret server was ummm no big deal. Plus Bengazie proved she killed her own people and bragged about it to her own daughter and on t.v. 

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The Silver Thong
12 minutes ago, Why not said:

I don't think they will be able to keep this up a whole lot longer myself. Especially the media. The sky can't be falling every day. Even the most hard headed liberal will realize the pure BS the MSM pushes daily is just a load of scare tactics. The media is in constant melt down over everything and anything that comes out of the White House. The blatant disrespect from most of the so called journalist towards any of the Presidents people is sickening. If I was Kellyanne, I would have back handed that little twerp Cooper's glasses right off his smug little face. It used to be funny watching the melt down, now it's scary the lies and spin coming out of our "fair and honest press". 

I love Kellyanne. Stong, smart and holds her ground. Trump made a good choice with her imo. Cooper is a d bag and a shill at that.

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Yamato

Trump protected the HONOR of Hillary Clinton???    Is this right?

 

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The Silver Thong
6 minutes ago, Yamato said:

Trump protected the HONOR of Hillary Clinton???    Is this right?

 

 I have no doubt Trump went soft on Hillary but I guess once your a player in the game you have to pass go and not collect 200 bucks.  You wait for the big payouts. I usualy don`t like Rush but he`s right this time. So in your opinion is getting rid of Comey a part of draining the swamp. 

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and then
4 hours ago, Astra. said:

I guess tho, if an investigation does continue into these alleged Russian ties, then the Trump admin should have nothing at all to be concerned about.

Astra, if the goal here was actual proof and conviction of Trump or his team, I'd agree.  That isn't the goal of the Dems.  They and their media arm want an ongoing circus like atmosphere for as long as possible so that they can raise money and campaign on an unproven and unprovable scandal.  This is what they will do, regardless the investigation's outcomes.  Trump needs to fight back and fight HARD.  He needs to give a national TV address where he outlines what the Dems are doing and he should announce that he is putting Rosenstein in charge of a renewed investigation into the HRC server debacle.  That is guaranteed to cause multiple spontaneous combustion casualties among Dems.  :devil:  It will also deflect them from their attacks while they spend time on their lapdog media shows, defending themselves for a change.

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Astra.
1 hour ago, and then said:

Astra, if the goal here was actual proof and conviction of Trump or his team, I'd agree.  That isn't the goal of the Dems.  They and their media arm want an ongoing circus like atmosphere for as long as possible so that they can raise money and campaign on an unproven and unprovable scandal.

Sure and then...and you are probably right. The opposition certainly makes a lot of noise. Even if these alleged Russian ties are eventually proven to have no substance as far as any concrete evidence of collusion is concerned...I suppose there will always be those who wont be happy, no matter what the outcome may be.

I do think tho - that any current investigation should continue...even if it's only to finally lay things to rest.

Now that Comey is gone, there's nothing really wrong with a clean broom sweeping through the rest of the house..(so to speak).

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This is what they will do, regardless the investigation's outcomes.  Trump needs to fight back and fight HARD.  He needs to give a national TV address where he outlines what the Dems are doing and he should announce that he is putting Rosenstein in charge of a renewed investigation into the HRC server debacle.

Yep, I guess since Rosenstein was also the one who recommended that Trump fire Comey. It's a good idea that Rosenstein stay in charge of a renewed investigation into Clinton.

Quite frankly, if there is anything in this world that I would like to see as far as that corrupt women is concerned....it's her and ilk serving time behind bars. Hopefully, with the new FBI Director eventually in charge of things, they will see to that. :tu:..

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That is guaranteed to cause multiple spontaneous combustion casualties among Dems.  :devil:  It will also deflect them from their attacks while they spend time on their lapdog media shows, defending themselves for a change.

Haha..yeah, I suppose we'll just have to wait and see :-*....

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I saw a clip from one of those late night tv shows (forget who- Cobert maybe), He informed his audience about Comey's firing and the audience went wild. I guess he didn't like that and accused them of being Trump supporters ( child molesters in liberal terms). Point is I'm sure most of the audience there were liberals and had to be told what they were supposed think of the firing of Comey. I couldn't believe it, but I guess if he didn't tell them what they were supposed to think about it, then when they got home the MSM would have told them.

To add: Trump needs to work on his people skills. That was probably the worst possible way he could have handled the firing of Comey.

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F3SS

I can't help but think that Colbert clip was a bit the audience was in on. Never know with them though.

 

5 hours ago, Gromdor said:

The Jeff Sessions recommending it thing does raise an eyebrow.  He recused himself from the Trump/Russia investigation partially because he had undisclosed contact with the Russian Ambassador prior to his becoming AG.  So to avoid conflict of interest in an investigation, he stepped away.  But then he turns around and recommends the firing of Comey who is in charge of some of the investigations between Trump/Russia.  Trump could have saved him a lot of hassle by keeping the recommendation secret instead of putting it on paper or simply saying it was a decision he came up with himself.

The Deputy AG recommended it. Sessions may have concurred followed obviously by Trump. Besides that though you make it sound as though the Russian investigation is the only thing the FBI is involved with. It's just one of many and the AG reserves the right to asses and recommend disciplinary action based on many other things. The Russian investigation has not been squashed, was not and should not have been guaranteed job security for Comey and above all the guy was not an elected official. A full ten year tenure was never in this guys hand. It was coming sooner or later, the timing would never be right and nobody truly cares. It's all just feigned outrage because it's Trump. Maxine Waters proves that, Colbert seems to and every hypocritic out there who's faking it (Chuck Schumer) proves that.

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Astra.
1 hour ago, Why not said:

To add: Trump needs to work on his people skills. That was probably the worst possible way he could have handled the firing of Comey.

Agree, seeing your 'firing' via Television first...would have been like "what the ****  :huh:...

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Yamato
4 hours ago, The Silver Thong said:

 I have no doubt Trump went soft on Hillary but I guess once your a player in the game you have to pass go and not collect 200 bucks.  You wait for the big payouts. I usualy don`t like Rush but he`s right this time. So in your opinion is getting rid of Comey a part of draining the swamp. 

Not sure.  Comey did come out days before the election and publicly announce the investigation into Hillary Clinton was back on, days later we learned that it was Anthony Weiner and not a Hillary Clinton investigation per-se.   Nevertheless this could have only hurt her chances.   I'm not anti-Comey for this anymore than I'm anti-Russian for the same reason.   On the outside, Comey doesn't appear to be overwhelmed with partisanship. 

If Comey goes down over Clintons and Trumps, two families who are great personal friends by the way, then Comey isn't the bad guy by default.   He might be a(nother) "fall guy" but I don't think he's guilty until proven innocent.  

Who knows what Comey has in his briefcase if/when he comes to court?     Who knows what Michael Flynn has?    A trail of firings and resignations growing longer isn't going to leave a good taste in peoples mouths.   Eventually the growth in dissent may undo Trump politically.   If the unity against him hits a critical mass I think it'll be over.  He'll give the bazillionaires the biggest tax cut they never needed, and the establishment will still run him out of office for it?    I believe the establishment has the power to do that unless he acts like a sweetheart-puppet just like Hillary Clinton who's a great hard working terrific person Trump would never want to hurt just like her husband.   

I don't even buy the "drain the swamp" rhetoric in the first place, despite Comey.   What are the chances that Comey's replacement is another swamp creature?

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Yamato
50 minutes ago, F3SS said:

I can't help but think that Colbert clip was a bit the audience was in on. Never know with them though.

The Colbert joke about Trump was no big deal was it?   Lots of false outrage though for something so harmless.

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