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Einsteinium
5 minutes ago, Dark_Grey said:

He never went to Law School, or spent years being groomed in an Ivy League institution. He was born in to wealth and became a man of business and media instead - comparing his demeanor to every other suit-and-tie that held office isn't really fair, IMO.

That is not a good excuse for his conduct. There is no reason why we should hold him to a lower standard than every other recent president.

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Dark_Grey
Just now, Einsteinium said:

So did the republicans I listed. I agree that doing this is not okay, but let's not be naiive and pretend that ONLY Hillary did this, if you are going to call one of them out on it, call them all out on it. There should be no double-standard.

She deleted hoards of emails that were requested by the investigators.She also lied under oath. The Republicans you listed may have private email servers but can you show they knowingly sent classified emails over an unsecured connection? The content of the emails they did get should be enough to implicate her and a lot of the DNC in on several fronts, including conspiring to cheat Bernie Sanders out of the Democratic nomination (which is interfering with the democratic process.)

Simply being in possession of a private server is the only thing the Repubs listed and Hillary have in common. Otherwise, she's the only one worthy of an FBI investigation.

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Dark_Grey
Just now, Einsteinium said:

That is not a good excuse for his conduct. There is no reason why we should hold him to a lower standard than every other recent president.

I think we can agree the MSM is not holding Trump to a low standard. Late night TV stopped being funny because every host spends the hour going on anti-Trump rants. It's relentless.

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2 minutes ago, Einsteinium said:

That is not a good excuse for his conduct. There is no reason why we should hold him to a lower standard than every other recent president.

Door swings both ways in this case though. Never has the media been so horribly biased and disgusting before either 

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Einsteinium
2 minutes ago, Dark_Grey said:

I think we can agree the MSM is not holding Trump to a low standard. Late night TV stopped being funny because every host spends the hour going on anti-Trump rants. It's relentless.

I am not talking about the MSM, I am talking about US, the people. We held Hillary to a much higher standard than Trump- one of the reasons why he was elected. Now look at the mess he is making of things, we have become the laughing stock of the world, a government reality TV show that people just cannot stop watching.

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Einsteinium
2 minutes ago, preacherman76 said:

Door swings both ways in this case though. Never has the media been so horribly biased and disgusting before either 

Trump brings it on himself, the media does not even have to try very hard to find things to bash him for, he keeps feeding them more scandals, questionable statements, bungled interviews, and blatant hypocrisy that they can't even keep up with it all and have to pick and choose which things to criticize him for.

The media is doing exactly what they should be doing, holding a wanna-be autocrat US president under the microscope and scrutinizing every move he makes. That is why we have an independent media, so they can do exactly this in this type of environment.

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Dark_Grey
2 minutes ago, Einsteinium said:

I am not talking about the MSM, I am talking about US, the people. We held Hillary to a much higher standard than Trump- one of the reasons why he was elected. Now look at the mess he is making of things, we have become the laughing stock of the world, a government reality TV show that people just cannot stop watching.

I don't think so. Trump's win has inspired a lot of change around the world. I would argue Brexit, the pushback against ANTIFA, severe reduction in illegal immigration (before the first brick of "the Wall" has even been laid,) heavier retaliation against ISIS, stronger foreign policy (contrast to Obama's limp-wristed approach...), the list goes on. I have better things to do than argue through each point right now as they have all been covered extensively in past threads but there's a sample platter for you to munch on. America may be laughed at by some, but that doesn't stop millions of people from knocking on our doors trying to become a part of it.

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Dark_Grey
6 minutes ago, Einsteinium said:

The media is doing exactly what they should be doing, holding a wanna-be autocrat US president under the microscope and scrutinizing every move he makes. That is why we have an independent media, so they can do exactly this in this type of environment.

Then why do they suck so badly at it? If I see another hit-piece based on "anonymous sources" my head is gonna explode.

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Einsteinium
1 minute ago, Dark_Grey said:

I don't think so. Trump's win has inspired a lot of change around the world. I would argue Brexit, the pushback against ANTIFA, severe reduction in illegal immigration (before the first brick of "the Wall" has even been laid,) heavier retaliation against ISIS, stronger foreign policy (contrast to Obama's limp-wristed approach...), the list goes on. I have better things to do than argue through each point right now as they have all been covered extensively in past threads but there's a sample platter for you to munch on. America may be laughed at by some, but that doesn't stop millions of people from knocking on our doors trying to become a part of it.

I would argue that Brexit is a terrible idea, and that illegal immigration has not and does not pose a serious threat, the wall is a stupid idea for many reasons. Heavier retaliation against ISIS? The MOAB was already in country ready to be used when Obama was president. Don't buy into the smoke and mirrors that Trump is putting in front of you. You are smarter than that.

 

2 minutes ago, Dark_Grey said:

Then why do they suck so badly at it? If I see another hit-piece based on "anonymous sources" my head is gonna explode.

So they should not be allowed to use anonymous sources? Many people would be too afraid for their lives/career to come forward as on the record sources but still want to alert the people about things going on behind the scenes, should the media just ignore these people even when the media knows who they are and knows why they want to remain anonymous? 

 

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Einsteinium

It is becoming more and more clear to me that Trump is simply incompetent and unfit to serve as president.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/11/politics/oval-office-photos-donald-trump-russians/index.html

 

Claims he did not anticipate that the Russians would publish these photos? Hahahaha! HAHA! I almost feel bad for the guy, almost.

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8 hours ago, Astra. said:

Now that Comey is gone, there's nothing really wrong with a clean broom sweeping through the rest of the house..(so to speak).

I agree completely.  But I want that broom to really sweep up EVERYTHING.  Just let an investigation begin to expose the criminality of HRC and Obama and we'll see how quickly they start screaming about "Constitutional Crisis"!  Trump really should go on offense.

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Merc14
1 hour ago, Einsteinium said:

We should then investigate all politicians who use private email servers.

Here is a partial list:

Jeb Bush

Scott Walker

Rick Perry

None of them had a private server, they had private email hoisted by AOL or Gmail or some such.  Hillary had her own server which hosted her email account and she, therefore, could wipe the drive at any time she wanted which is the ONLY reason fro the server.  Want proof, she did just that when ordered to turn over emails to investigators.   Lastly, none of the people you listed had federal jobs and were, therefore, not subject top federal rules.  Care to argue with any of that?  Didn't think so which begs the question, why post it in the first place when you know all these facts?

1 hour ago, Einsteinium said:

First, the rules were different for Bush and his people but it was a violation of the presidential records act to use that server for official business.  The emails were subsequently recovered on back up tapes.  Lastly, Bush did not have control of that server, as Hillary did hers, the RNC maintained it so not the same thing as Hills plus the emails wee found on back up tales and turned over.

1 hour ago, Einsteinium said:

 

Wait, those are all republicans, never mind look the other way.

Nope,. ot was all investigated and Bush was not being investigated by a congressional committee, it was watchdofg gropus and he didn't "wipe the drive, like with a rag" when asked to turn the emails over

1 hour ago, Einsteinium said:

She was within the bounds of the law to use the private server, doing that in and of itself was not illegal.

No she was not.  That is an ourtright lie, especially considering the Obama striuctly forbade the use of private emails for official business in his administration.

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Now, destroying Blackberries with hammers, yeah that is just wrong. But she is not POTUS, Trump is, Trump is under the microscope now.

You destroy classified info by breaking the chips with a hammer hence the use thereof.

 

 

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Einsteinium
2 minutes ago, and then said:

I agree completely.  But I want that broom to really sweep up EVERYTHING.  Just let an investigation begin to expose the criminality of HRC and Obama and we'll see how quickly they start screaming about "Constitutional Crisis"!  Trump really should go on offense.

My God...you really believe it don't you? The republican propaganda..you actually believe it.

No wonder Trump is our president, people actually believe the republican propaganda! I actually thought most people were smart enough to see through it. You keep on talking about the previous administration and hold that administration to a different standard than you hold the current administration to.

If Obama had fired Comey everyone would have been screaming it was politically motivated and that he was trying to help Hillary, when Trump does it in the middle of the FBI investigating his campaign, suddenly it is the right thing and anyone saying otherwise is just 'fake news'.

 

The hypocrisy of the right is simply mind boggling.

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Einsteinium
5 minutes ago, Merc14 said:

but it was a violation of the presidential records act to use that server for official business.  The emails were subsequently recovered on back up tapes.

Some of the emails were recovered, but most likely not all of them. They have not yet been released to the public.

Good point about the 3 people I posted not having to follow the federal rules. I had not thought of that. Colin Powell did use a private email service but not server. 

 

http://www.snopes.com/g-w-bush-lost-22-million-e-mails/

"As in Clinton’s case, the Bush administration e-mails were sought as evidence in government investigations. No no charges were filed and no criminal wrongdoing was found in regard to Clinton’s handling of e-mails. Bush aides were found in contempt of Congress for not complying with subpoenas in the U.S. attorney firings investigation, but no punishment was handed down"

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Just now, Einsteinium said:

The hypocrisy of the right is simply mind boggling.

Right back atcha!  Did it ever occur to you, ever, that maybe you could be wrong?  And if you are correct, what is the harm in an investigation to restore the confidence of the millions of Americans who nearly choked on Comey's pass for HRC last July?  What he did was unprecedented.  He took on a role he was not empowered to have.  What is mind boggling is that the Progs seem to believe that because they have unrestricted use of a 24/7 propaganda machine, they can actually make their own reality and force nonconformers to go along.  Trump needs to break bad on these hysterical A-holes and let them know he can play hardball as well.  He, at least, will have good reason to investigate, he'd be keeping a promise AND it would improve his poll numbers.  He also needs to call Ryan and "marble mouthed" Mitch in for a little heart to heart.  If they are going to resist his policies he needs to know and plan how to bring them around.  Do you realize that Reagan increased the defense budgets by over 30%, with both houses controlled by Dems?  Trump wanted to lead - he needs to get about that business.

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Dark_Grey
26 minutes ago, Einsteinium said:

I would argue that Brexit is a terrible idea, and that illegal immigration has not and does not pose a serious threat, the wall is a stupid idea for many reasons. Heavier retaliation against ISIS? The MOAB was already in country ready to be used when Obama was president. Don't buy into the smoke and mirrors that Trump is putting in front of you. You are smarter than that.

Literally every one of your opinions has been debunked. Brexit, illegals, even the wall. It seems like you like to take headlines at face value and extrapolate based on that.

19 minutes ago, Einsteinium said:

It is becoming more and more clear to me that Trump is simply incompetent and unfit to serve as president.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/11/politics/oval-office-photos-donald-trump-russians/index.html

Unironically using CNN as a source? Citing what is arguably the least credible "news" source doesn't help your credibility. You will have your hands full in this thread after posting all those half-truths. I'll wait till the smoke subsides before responding.

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AnchorSteam
13 hours ago, RavenHawk said:

I don’t think that will be the case.  There is no way that the Progs can keep this pace up for 4 or 8 years.  Eventually, they will make such a fool of themselves that even the most brain dead of their sheeple will wake up.  My jaw is already in the down position and I love it!

Oh, the tantrum will never end, people will just have to stop listening to it. Ask one of these people what they think about trump in 50 years and they will instantly go straight into full-rant mode. It won't be as if a single day had passed.

Think I'm wrong? Mention the name "Palin", and watch for the crazed twist of the lips, the bulging eyes and the sneering snarl that increases in pitch and volume to an air-raid siren in less than 3 minutes. 

 

Also consider the evidence, and then the lack thereof.

Comey spent 20 minutes last July listing the crimes that Hillary committed, and the mountain of evidence that went along with it.... and then announced that there would be no prosecution (not even his call) because he thought that Hillary wasn't doing it with criminal intent. 

I dare anyone reading this to try that Ignorance of the Law defense for themselves someday...

And then, the moment Trump won the Repub Nomination that same month, Obama has them start an investigation of Trump, he Party's opponent in the election. Never mind how sleazy that was, and how worthy of investigation it is in itself.... that investigation is still going on despite the fact that no evidence has ever surfaced that Trump colluded with the Russians, OR any evidence that the Russians hacked the election in the first damn place!

Who outside the D.C. bubble would give these jerks the time of day?

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Einsteinium
1 minute ago, AnchorSteam said:

no evidence has ever surfaced that Trump colluded with the Russians, OR any evidence that the Russians hacked the election in the first damn place!

There is a mountain of shady connections and lying that implies something shady going on between the Trump campaign and the Russian govt. Why would Flynn lie about his conversation with the Russian ambassador? Why would Jeff Sessions lie about meeting with the Russian ambassador?

Why did Trump fire Comey a week after he testified about the ongoing investigation into the Trump campaign and Russia?

There is a pattern here that stinks of something. We deserve to figure out what the hell is going on (to use Trumps own words). If Trump has nothing to hide then why doesn't he release his tax returns? Why did he keep Flynn on the job for weeks after he knew about Flynn lying to Pence and that he was open to blackmail? If Trump has nothing to hide then why doesn't he just explain in complete cohesive sentences why he made these decisions, release his tax returns, release any other documents relating to his campaign and Russia and let the people see all that?

6 minutes ago, AnchorSteam said:

OR any evidence that the Russians hacked the election in the first damn place!

ALL of our national security experts and agencies who have seen the classified intelligence agree unanimously that the Russians were behind this, they don't want to release that evidence because doing so would reveal some of our methods and technologies used to gather that intelligence, which for obvious reasons they do not want released to let our enemies guard against it, but given the unanimous assessment by people who have seen that evidence it is quite clear that the Russians were behind it.

And the Russians got the outcome they wanted and are now playing Trump for a fool. I doubt Trump did collude with them, I honestly think that Trump is merely incompetent and unfit to be president which is why the Russians wanted him as president in the first place.

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4 minutes ago, Einsteinium said:

There is a mountain of shady connections and lying that implies something shady going on between the Trump campaign and the Russian govt. Why would Flynn lie about his conversation with the Russian ambassador? Why would Jeff Sessions lie about meeting with the Russian ambassador?

Why did Trump fire Comey a week after he testified about the ongoing investigation into the Trump campaign and Russia?

There is a pattern here that stinks of something. We deserve to figure out what the hell is going on (to use Trumps own words). If Trump has nothing to hide then why doesn't he release his tax returns? Why did he keep Flynn on the job for weeks after he knew about Flynn lying to Pence and that he was open to blackmail? If Trump has nothing to hide then why doesn't he just explain in complete cohesive sentences why he made these decisions, release his tax returns, release any other documents relating to his campaign and Russia and let the people see all that?

ALL of our national security experts and agencies who have seen the classified intelligence agree unanimously that the Russians were behind this, they don't want to release that evidence because doing so would reveal some of our methods and technologies used to gather that intelligence, which for obvious reasons they do not want released to let our enemies guard against it, but given the unanimous assessment by people who have seen that evidence it is quite clear that the Russians were behind it.

And the Russians got the outcome they wanted and are now playing Trump for a fool. I doubt Trump did collude with them, I honestly think that Trump is merely incompetent and unfit to be president which is why the Russians wanted him as president in the first place.

 

Explain how the Russians effected a Trump win.  No smoke, no allusions, just explain the step by step process that caused millions of people in 31 different states to vote for Trump instead of HRC.  Ultimately, that will be the standard of reasonable people.  Hacks have no standards so they don't matter.  The only CRIMES that we have evidence for so far are the leaks of classified info to news organizations.  Those are felonies with some serious time attached on conviction.  All it's going to take is one of these hack bureaucrats having their feet held to the sentencing fire and this whole disgusting sham will fall in on itself.  The media have actually become mentally unbalanced.  Sooner or later they are going to auger in and lose all credibility, even among the sheep that hang on every word.  That will be a good day.  It will make me smile.

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Einsteinium
15 minutes ago, Dark_Grey said:

Literally every one of your opinions has been debunked. Brexit, illegals, even the wall. It seems like you like to take headlines at face value and extrapolate based on that.

My opinion is that all of those things are simply bad idea's. I could certainly be wrong, but to say that all of my opinions have been 'debunked' is a bit of a stretch. For one thing Brexit has not been implemented yet, so how that is actually going to play out for Europe is a bit of an unknown at this point, my opinion has not been debunked on that because it has not even happened yet.

The wall? Again in my opinion it is a stupid idea, to say that my opinion on that is debunked makes not sense, given that the wall has not been built yet to show whether or not it was a good or bad idea. Once the wall is built (if it ever actually is built) then my opinion can be tested, until then you cannot claim it is a debunked opinion.

Illegal immigration? I just don't see it as a huge problem in and of itself, it is good for us economically, they don't take jobs that American citizens usually want, and the majority of them are not criminals. Yes we have some very bad people that come across the border, but we also have some very bad people who are born right here as well, this irrational fear of immigrants has been 'debunked' over and over again throughout history in various corners of the globe at various times. "Americans" used to hate the German immigrants, the Italians, on and on, I just don't see justification for the hatred and fear, just politics and manipulation.

 

You are entitled to your opinions, and I to mine. But if you are going to claim that my opinions have been 'debunked' please provide evidence to back that up. Unlike some on here, if you prove me wrong, I will admit it and give you credit for teaching me something new.

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Einsteinium
2 minutes ago, and then said:

Sooner or later they are going to auger in and lose all credibility, even among the sheep that hang on every word.

I think that the Trump White House is very close to losing all credibility already. The media for all its failings is at least more credible than the current white house administration. The white house flip flops so fast that it is hard to keep track of. The media is at least consistent.

 

3 minutes ago, and then said:

Explain how the Russians effected a Trump win.  No smoke, no allusions, just explain the step by step process that caused millions of people in 31 different states to vote for Trump instead of HRC.

It is simple, they release a bunch of emails from the Hillary campaign showing how unfairly Bernie Sanders was treated, that turned a LOT of Bernie supporters away from Hillary. 

Along with the above, they launched a massive disinformation/trolling campaign to subtley undermine Hillary with true fake news, like the paedophile pizza place story....here, just read this, this is a very good summary of it:

 

http://www.snopes.com/2017/04/18/russia-us-fake-news/

"Russian active measures hope to topple democracies through the pursuit of five complementary objectives: One, undermine citizen confidence in democratic governance; two, foment, exacerbate divisive political fissures; three, erode trust between citizens and elected officials and their institutions; four, popularize Russian policy agendas within foreign populations; and five, create general distrust or confusion over information sources by blurring the lines between fact and fiction — a very pertinent issue today in our country.

From these objectives the Kremlin can crumble democracies from the inside out, achieving two key milestones: One, the disillusion of the European Union; and two, the break-up of NATO."

"Russia’s overt media outlets and covert trolls sought to sideline opponents on both sides of the political spectrum with adversarial views towards the Kremlin. They were in full swing during both the Republican and Democratic primary season and may have help sink the hopes of candidates more hostile to Russian interests long before the field narrowed. Senator Rubio, in my opinion you anecdotally suffered from these efforts. … This past week we observed social media accounts discrediting Speaker of the House Paul Ryan, hoping to further foment unrest inside U.S. democratic institutions."

"The main advantage of conspiracy theories as political tools is that they can spread a general anti-establishment sentiment and they can destroy the credibility and trust in all the established leaders and institutions. It’s not only an American phenomenon that conspiracy theorists are popping up and operating around anti-establishment candidates."

 

 

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AnchorSteam
9 minutes ago, Einsteinium said:

There is a mountain of shady connections and lying that implies something shady going on between the Trump campaign and the Russian govt. Why would Flynn lie about his conversation with the Russian ambassador? Why would Jeff Sessions lie about meeting with the Russian ambassador?

Maybe because every move they make is spun in the worst possible way by the enemy; the Leftist Media.

9 minutes ago, Einsteinium said:

 Why did he keep Flynn on the job for weeks after he knew about Flynn lying to Pence and that he was open to blackmail?

Maybe he thought the Obama Administration knew what they were doing when they gave Flynn the highest possible Security Clearance just a few years ago. :o

9 minutes ago, Einsteinium said:

If Trump has nothing to hide then why doesn't he just explain in complete cohesive sentences why he made these decisions, release his tax returns, release any other documents relating to his campaign and Russia and let the people see all that?

Because he knows that all of the above are nothing but a witch-hunt that will be parsed and twisted into the most negative possible narratives filled with smoke and mirrors and allegations.... as is the case with your ENTIRE post!

In legal terms, it is called circumstantial, NOT evidence.

9 minutes ago, Einsteinium said:

ALL of our national security experts and agencies who have seen the classified intelligence agree unanimously that the Russians were behind this, they don't want to release that evidence because doing so would reveal some of our methods and technologies used to gather that intelligence,

I call B.S., and seriously, shame on you for even trying to pull a stunt like that.

You know what the real Hell of this is? There might actually be something to all this!

Yeah, something might actually stink here, but the point is now moot. From day one, you guys have been raising the roof about all kinds of specious nonsense with ever-increasing volume. The only thing that has changed is the level of panic on your side, and the depths to which everyone on the Left has sunk... Colbert is just the figurehead for the plunge into the sewers, now headed through the crust of the planet itself.

Cry Wolf 10,000 times and you might actually be right once... but by then, everyone else is too disgusted with you to even hear it.

9 minutes ago, Einsteinium said:

And the Russians got the outcome they wanted and are now playing Trump for a fool....

Since the Left started the drum-beat for ever-increasing hostility with Russia (even to the point just short of War) you might want to consider the Russian point of view here. To them, it is more of a matter of life & death when the leadership of the USA and the EU are both beating that Drum, and they have seen it before. Never doubt just how literal those people can be... and I can't say that I fault them for it.

But since Putin isn't a Globalist, he may as well have a target on his back these days, eh?

I don't suppose it ever entered your head that if you guys push this hard enough, you might actually get a real War? You might not need to worry so much about that HealthCare when you are old & gray, youngsters like you are generally the first to go.

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Einsteinium
16 minutes ago, AnchorSteam said:

the enemy; the Leftist Media.

How far you have sunk when the media, left or right wing, but the legitimate media is now considered an 'enemy'.

How far our great nation has sunk to reach this point.

 

17 minutes ago, AnchorSteam said:

Since the Left started the drum-beat for ever-increasing hostility with Russia

Yeah, everything is the fault of 'the left'- this terrible scourge of socialists/communists that is destroying our country. Nevermind that Mitt Romney (ring wing guy) stated in 2012 that Russia was the #1 enemy of the nation. The neo-conservatives have been beating that drum for decades.

 

It is funny to me that you and others on here think I am a leftist. People I work with and actually interact with in real life would tell you that I am a centrist. How far right we must have slid for a centrist to be considered a hardcore leftist LOL.

 

The Russians clearly are trying to undermine and influence our nations people. That should be alarming to all of us regardless of left or right affiliations. The Russians must not be allowed to continue doing this as they very well could cause a war if they are not careful. We should not bow down before the Russians, we should hold them accountable for their actions. This is about standing up for our nation and not letting another nation influence the direction of our politics, I would be saying the same thing if it was Canada (or any other nation) who was meddling in our political process.

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1 hour ago, Einsteinium said:

Okay, then we should be sending G W Bush to prison right along side Hillary as he did this as well. So have many others on both sides. I have no problem with this, just don't have a double standard.

 

Also, not sure why we are still talking about Hillary, Trump is president and Hillary is just a private citizen now.

Bush didn’t have his own private server that he was using to covertly transmit classified material.  And neither did he stuff his socks with classified like Sandy Berger.  No one did the same thing Hilary did.  She thought she was above the law and still does.  That is why we are still talking about her.

 

When dealing with classified or potentially classified, everyone runs the risk of letting something slip out and it does happen.  And most of the time we work with the offender to mitigate the event.  It rarely leads to termination or even jail time.  But when something is overtly and callously perpetrated as this was, punishment must be doled out.  If she is not, then that sends a signal to others that they can do the same.

 

Chesty Puller once said “Take me to the brig.  I want to see real Marines!”  Basically, you’re not a real Marine if you’ve never been in trouble.  That makes them better Marines.  MOWs are more valuable at protecting our nation’s secrets if you’ve made mistakes and have learned from them.  But Hilary has not learned.  She was out for her own personal gain.

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Michelle

Moscow didn’t do anything in America’s last election that Washington hasn’t done elsewhere in the world

Ever since Donald Trump won the presidency last November, perhaps no issue has consumed America’s political class more than the question of whether Russia interfered in the U.S. election. The White House, the FBI, and the rest of the intelligence community says it did, although the government has still not provided the public with the concrete evidence on which that conclusion is based.

cont...

http://www.businessinsider.com/us-has-meddled-in-foreign-elections-2017-1

Business as usual. 

 

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