Uncle Sam Posted June 9, 2017 #101 Share Posted June 9, 2017 On 2017-5-30 at 4:49 PM, Dark_Grey said: "Immigrants do the jobs YOU don't want to!" "There should be no borders! No human being is illegal!" Sweden to become a Third World Country by 2030, according to UN http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.454/sweden-to-become-a-third-world-country-by-2030-according-to-un.html This is so depressing. Sweden has always been praised as one of the top countries to live in... So what can we learn from Sweden's fall? Mass immigration does not work, opening your borders to anyone and everyone is a bad idea and feminism truly is cancer. If you ever wondered why Leftists never refer to the world's only feminist-run country, now you know. For a long time, there were members at UM that vehemently denied the existence of a refugee crisis in Sweden. The rape reports must be exaggerated, the migrants are just families fleeing war, etc. This isn't about racism, or "Islamophobia", unless you consider facts to be racist. Maybe you guys can pull your heads out of the sand long enough to read the UN report. By 2030, Sweden will be surpassed by Mexico, Cuba, even Greece. Liberalism turned Sweden from a prosperous, white utopia into a crime riddled African state. I hope the rest of Europe is watching. Additional reading:Former Swedish Minister of Finance: Sweden will become like Africa I used to look at sweden as a example of a great civilization, now the mass immigration that swept the nation turned it into a warning for other European Nations that continue to ignore. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted June 9, 2017 #102 Share Posted June 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, Uncle Sam said: I used to look at sweden as a example of a great civilization, now the mass immigration that swept the nation turned it into a warning for other European Nations that continue to ignore. Sweden now the rape capital of the west. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Sam Posted June 9, 2017 #103 Share Posted June 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, The Silver Thong said: Sweden now the rape capital of the west. They wasn't before mass immigration. Really telling isn't it? The one picture of the women wearing hijabs in nation's capital while a fundi islamist standing in their ranks is pretty much telling too, they pretty much surrendered their nation to them. It is rather sad... breaks my heart to see another European country completely fall to this disgusting ideology. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted June 9, 2017 #104 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Just now, Uncle Sam said: They wasn't before mass immigration. Really telling isn't it? The one picture of the women wearing hijabs in nation's capital while a fundi islamist standing in their ranks is pretty much telling too, they pretty much surrendered their nation to them. It is rather sad... breaks my heart to see another European country completely fall to this disgusting ideology. I`m still trying to figure out what went wrong oh wait I remember now mass immigration. Who would have ever thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Sam Posted June 9, 2017 #105 Share Posted June 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, The Silver Thong said: I`m still trying to figure out what went wrong oh wait I remember now mass immigration. Who would have ever thought. Everything I am seeing is pretty much reinforcing my stance and how I was right... I hate being right when I am warning against something pretty stupid. I don't really want to rub it into their faces now that it has happen and it is even worse than I imagined. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted June 9, 2017 #106 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Sometimes it sucks being right. We saw this comming years ago and it`s still going on. What does it take for people to wake up. Creeping Sharia is one scary thing because we are letting it happen. Why are we so dumb to let this happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beelost Posted June 14, 2017 #107 Share Posted June 14, 2017 "Sweden took in 163000 asylum seekers. Less than 500 have landed jobs. Stockholm housing prices rose to the point of being considered as an entry into the Guinness Book of Records. Personal tax in Sweden is between 55-70% to support these immigrants. Rape capital city of the world." Why are people in EU countries still supporting this illogical immigration movement and what are their arguments? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Border Collie Posted June 23, 2017 #108 Share Posted June 23, 2017 On 09/06/2017 at 3:58 AM, The Silver Thong said: Sometimes it sucks being right. We saw this comming years ago and it`s still going on. What does it take for people to wake up. Creeping Sharia is one scary thing because we are letting it happen. Why are we so dumb to let this happen. Something to do with the sort of propaganda you read? try http://www.government.se/articles/2017/02/facts-about-migration-and-crime-in-sweden/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugenonegin Posted June 24, 2017 #109 Share Posted June 24, 2017 (edited) On 14/06/2017 at 6:02 AM, Beelost said: "Sweden took in 163000 asylum seekers. Less than 500 have landed jobs. Stockholm housing prices rose to the point of being considered as an entry into the Guinness Book of Records. Personal tax in Sweden is between 55-70% to support these immigrants. Rape capital city of the world." Why are people in EU countries still supporting this illogical immigration movement and what are their arguments? It is a combination of guilt (we turned away the Jews when they turned up in ships trying to escape Nazi Germany- we really did, we refused them to de-ship and let them sail back to mainland Europe which was occupied), and also plain humanity (what can you do when an inflatable boat turns up on the Med shores with exhausted people, sent them back?). And economics- the West will constantly meddle in ME politics because that is where the oil is. The root cause of the world's troubles is religion- an ancient superstition that holds back progress everywhere. Religion has no place in the modern world and it should be banned from all educational establishments so that children do not get indoctrinated. We in the West think it absurd that a man should receive 50 lashes because his trousers are too long, or a woman gets stoned to death because she is unfaithful to a man she had no choice in marrying, or a homosexual man should be flung from a tower block to his death because of his genetic make-up. I think it is absurd that our children are taught that the world is overseen by a loving Father who allows us to do wicked things so he can choose the righteous, who can intercede on our behalf in times of trouble if we pray to him, but may choose not to, because that is His mysterious way. He is all-powerful, all loving, he created everything, but has everlasting battles with Satan and occasionally forgets to answer prayers.And always neglects to cure diseases. He thinks allowing us to watch children die of cancer, leukaemia and starvation teaches us humility. Great bloke. Unfortunately the USA is deeply Christian, and as it is the most powerful country in the world, we will not make headway until they realise it is 2000-year-old nonsense. That won't happen anytime soon while presidential hopefuls believe the Earth is only 6000 years old, dinosaur bones were buried by the devil to mislead humanity, and a third of the population have been abducted by aliens at some time in their lives. We live in exciting times-decades ago men walked on the moon, we all have cheap communication devices, medicine is making such huge advances that aging may possibly be postponed, diseases conquered, yet we are still killing each other because we can't agree on some ancient script which no-one can reliably source, and which has absolutely no relevance now that we know that the Earth is not the centre of the universe. Edited June 24, 2017 by eugeneonegin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee Posted June 24, 2017 #110 Share Posted June 24, 2017 On 14/06/2017 at 6:02 AM, Beelost said: "Sweden took in 163000 asylum seekers. Less than 500 have landed jobs. Stockholm housing prices rose to the point of being considered as an entry into the Guinness Book of Records. Personal tax in Sweden is between 55-70% to support these immigrants. Rape capital city of the world." Why are people in EU countries still supporting this illogical immigration movement and what are their arguments? there is a growing suspicion as the situation continues and gets worse - that refugees and migrants have been '''weaponized''' and are being used to weaken European countries from within to destroy cultural cohesion and make it easier to eventually get rid of countries as we now know them and have EU Regions instead - I'd say that the majority of citizens don't want this but are Mind Controlled in various ways to allow the situation to go on - divide and rule when anything happens to weaken the grip of the EU / Globalist political and corporate elite all hell breaks loose - for example Brexit and the Trump presidency - then all the Mind Control tricks in the book are brought into play to try and claw back any control what was lost - that's how I see it at the moment anyway - 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted June 24, 2017 #111 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Just now, bee said: refugees and migrants have been '''weaponized''' Your right they are the weapon but to many, can`t see it. Some welcome it. That won`t last long. After all why are they refugees and migrants. Oh maybe it`s because they flee what they are now creating in the west. Hmmmm what the hell. What happens when the west is like the middle eastern nations. Again hmmm zero it will be the same so what is the point of fleeing so to speak. Oh I got it it`s the spread of a religion that requirs the world to submite. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee Posted June 24, 2017 #112 Share Posted June 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, The Silver Thong said: Your right they are the weapon but to many, can`t see it. Some welcome it. That won`t last long. After all why are they refugees and migrants. Oh maybe it`s because they flee what they are now creating in the west. Hmmmm what the hell. What happens when the west is like the middle eastern nations. Again hmmm zero it will be the same so what is the point of fleeing so to speak. Oh I got it it`s the spread of a religion that requirs the world to submite. it's all going to go (has gone) horribly wrong IMO, but by the time (if ever) most people suss out the crazy, culturally suicidal hidden agenda the choice will be capitulation or civil war - 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Caspian Hare Posted June 24, 2017 #113 Share Posted June 24, 2017 9 hours ago, eugeneonegin said: It is a combination of guilt (we turned away the Jews when they turned up in ships trying to escape Nazi Germany- we really did, we refused them to de-ship and let them sail back to mainland Europe which was occupied), and also plain humanity (what can you do when an inflatable boat turns up on the Med shores with exhausted people, sent them back?). They have to send them back, there is no choice, Europe is beyond its capacity to cope with refugees/migrants and tolerating it will only invite more. This requires a certain coldness but it is necessary to survive. My opinion: if European want to help, then set up humanitarian stations in the affected regions. It is better to keep them there in their own countries and cultures than to attract them to where they will be both a lifelong welfare burden and a disruption to the native culture. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer77 Posted June 24, 2017 #114 Share Posted June 24, 2017 36 minutes ago, The Russian Hare said: They have to send them back, there is no choice, Europe is beyond its capacity to cope with refugees/migrants and tolerating it will only invite more. This requires a certain coldness but it is necessary to survive. My opinion: if European want to help, then set up humanitarian stations in the affected regions. It is better to keep them there in their own countries and cultures than to attract them to where they will be both a lifelong welfare burden and a disruption to the native culture. Europe could also apply some pressure on the US and their military industrial complex to ya know, stop making so many damn refugees. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted June 24, 2017 #115 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Just now, Farmer77 said: Europe could also apply some pressure on the US and their military industrial complex to ya know, stop making so many damn refugees. What I don`t get is that some refugees that the US let in are fleeing to Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer77 Posted June 24, 2017 #116 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Just now, The Silver Thong said: What I don`t get is that some refugees that the US let in are fleeing to Canada. Man , rightly or wrongly, if I had a slightly darker skin tone than I do now I would be heading your way too. While it seems a fringe concern for the majority here , many nations have travel advisories in place regarding the US legal and judicial systems and that was before Trump and company stopped any reforms that were put in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted June 24, 2017 #117 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Just now, Farmer77 said: Man , rightly or wrongly, if I had a slightly darker skin tone than I do now I would be heading your way too. While it seems a fringe concern for the majority here , many nations have travel advisories in place regarding the US legal and judicial systems and that was before Trump and company stopped any reforms that were put in place. What I don`t get is why are we ( Canadians ) giving refugee status to those fleeing the US. To me they are illegals and should be deported asap. The US can`t be that bad yet. I have been there many times and it seems ok. I was in San Diego years ago and loved it. Thought of driving to Tijuana Mexico but the drive back to L.A. was going to be long enough. That`s one busy highyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred_mc Posted June 24, 2017 #118 Share Posted June 24, 2017 (edited) On 2017-5-30 at 5:49 PM, Dark_Grey said: "Immigrants do the jobs YOU don't want to!" "There should be no borders! No human being is illegal!" Sweden to become a Third World Country by 2030, according to UN http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.454/sweden-to-become-a-third-world-country-by-2030-according-to-un.html This is so depressing. Sweden has always been praised as one of the top countries to live in... So what can we learn from Sweden's fall? Mass immigration does not work, opening your borders to anyone and everyone is a bad idea and feminism truly is cancer. If you ever wondered why Leftists never refer to the world's only feminist-run country, now you know. For a long time, there were members at UM that vehemently denied the existence of a refugee crisis in Sweden. The rape reports must be exaggerated, the migrants are just families fleeing war, etc. This isn't about racism, or "Islamophobia", unless you consider facts to be racist. Maybe you guys can pull your heads out of the sand long enough to read the UN report. By 2030, Sweden will be surpassed by Mexico, Cuba, even Greece. Liberalism turned Sweden from a prosperous, white utopia into a crime riddled African state. I hope the rest of Europe is watching. Additional reading:Former Swedish Minister of Finance: Sweden will become like Africa What a bunch of crap. The fact is that we need immigrants here in Sweden. For example, healthcare in Sweden wouldn't work without doctors, nurses etc coming from other countries. I heard an expert on the news on the radio explain that it will be a big problem for all countries in Europe in the future that a big part of the population will be retired, that only a smaller part of the population will work. That equation doesn't add up. However, he also explained that Sweden will be in a better situation than other countries thanks to our high immigration. Many of the immigrants are younger and therefore the age distribution in Sweden will not be as offset as in other countries. He explained that thanks to this we will have a manageable situation in contrast to other countries where for example healthcare will break down. In other words, Sweden will be a better country to live in than most other countries in 2030. Edited June 24, 2017 by fred_mc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silver Thong Posted June 24, 2017 #119 Share Posted June 24, 2017 (edited) Just now, fred_mc said: What a bunch of crap. The fact is that we need immigrants here in Sweden. For example, healthcare in Sweden wouldn't work without doctors, nurses etc coming from other countries. I heard an expert on the news on the radio explain that it will be a big problem for all countries in Europe in the future that a big part of the population will be retired, that only a smaller part of the population will work. That equation doesn't add up. However, he also explained that Sweden will be in a better situation than other countries thanks to our high immigration. Many of the immigrants are younger and therefore the age distribution in Sweden will not be as offset as in other countries. He explained that thanks to this we will have a manageable situation in contrast to other countries where for example healthcare will break down. In other words, Sweden will be a better country to live in than most other countries in 2030. You are wrong, do you really think these immigrants are the best and brightest. No for the most part they are the, I will leave it at that. Immigration has failed. Sweden Is dead. I feel bad for them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQGNDG--mCk Edited June 24, 2017 by The Silver Thong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likely Guy Posted July 30, 2017 #120 Share Posted July 30, 2017 9 hours ago, Border Collie said: What an unpleasant post. Shame I missed it when you posted it. Just a personal attack with no logic or reason. Pointless talking to people like you. Not really pointless per se, because a person with a semblance of reason may read this thread and 'give their head a shake'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted July 30, 2017 #121 Share Posted July 30, 2017 On 6/24/2017 at 7:52 AM, Farmer77 said: Europe could also apply some pressure on the US and their military industrial complex to ya know, stop making so many damn refugees. Yada, yada, yada... America bad, America to blame. It's like everyone else in the world gets a free pass in your mind. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opus Magnus Posted July 31, 2017 #122 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Well, according to the Laws of Moses, it talks about issues like this. They probably won't work anymore, but I've thought about it a little, and it pretty much says not to deny strangers into your land, because you were once strangers in a strange land. But, you are supposed to tax them a lot, pretty much. Called charging them usury. You weren't supposed to charge usury on your own people, but on the strangers in your land. Pretty much interest. Also, your own people weren't supposed to be your slaves for more than 6 years, but strangers could be your slaves forever. So, I mean, I guess the immigrants should be charged a really high interest rate on everything if they're that much of a problem and want to stay. I doubt it will ever happen, but I think that's the way it's supposed to go in order to support the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted July 31, 2017 #123 Share Posted July 31, 2017 11 minutes ago, Opus Magnus said: Well, according to the Laws of Moses, it talks about issues like this. They probably won't work anymore, but I've thought about it a little, and it pretty much says not to deny strangers into your land, because you were once strangers in a strange land. But, you are supposed to tax them a lot, pretty much. Called charging them usury. You weren't supposed to charge usury on your own people, but on the strangers in your land. Pretty much interest. Also, your own people weren't supposed to be your slaves for more than 6 years, but strangers could be your slaves forever. So, I mean, I guess the immigrants should be charged a really high interest rate on everything if they're that much of a problem and want to stay. I doubt it will ever happen, but I think that's the way it's supposed to go in order to support the country. Supposed to go according to some guy thousands of years ago. I would have thought people were aware of the dangers of taking such things at face value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opus Magnus Posted July 31, 2017 #124 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Well, also on a note about slavery mentioned in the Torah. It was against the law to go out and take slaves of men. Slavery pretty much happened when someone living inside the country went completely broke, or something, and they would sell themselves as a slave to someone so they could get food or whatnot. Being a slave is pretty ugly, but there were laws safeguarding them, strangers and people of their brethren. If the master of the slave beat his slave causing the slave to lose his eye, or a tooth, the slave would go automatically free, for the tooth's sake or for the eye's sake. If a brethren wanted to continue being a slave after 6 years, then they would drive an aul through his ear at the door, meaning he would be a slave to his master forever. LIke an earing, sort of I guess. Also, if slave went into slavery with his wife, then he'd leave with his wife, but if the master gave some maid to his servant to wife while he was a slave, then at the end of his slavery, the master would keep the slave's wife and any children he had with her... I guess, a lot of people call current employment slavery, I'm not sure, in some cases it sounds like this. But yeah, most of the world has been twisted in order to keep the law from working properly, and so it should be adjusted. Like Paul said, Satan has gotten ahold of the law rendering it useless. The law is death, and whoever does not love wisdom is a lover of death according to Solomon, but Jesus says whoever teaches men not to use the law will be the least in heaven. So, anyway, I think it would have been wise to literally rip the refugees into the country, to pull them when they were flowing in. Pull them in and then hit them with usury. That perspective from the Tao Teh Ching, on how to handle the matter. Rather than force them out, pull them in while they're coming. Then you can reap the rewards of having strangers in your land... Everything else I'm not sure, except I'd think it would be wise to keep their weapons away from them and hold them low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer77 Posted August 9, 2017 #125 Share Posted August 9, 2017 On 7/30/2017 at 2:35 AM, and then said: Yada, yada, yada... America bad, America to blame. It's like everyone else in the world gets a free pass in your mind. No dude, addressing very real problems doesnt mean im just "America bad". It simply means im willing to look at all aspects of the situation. If im talking more about America than other nations that's just because im an American and thats what i know 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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