Matt221 Posted June 1, 2017 #1 Share Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) Quote An Ashby woman has said she came within 15 metres of a large black cat, and says that she is now scared to leave the house alone. Mum-of-three Emma Adam, 29, was out walking at dusk with her mother-in-law, on a path through a woodland when she saw the creature, which she said was larger than a labrador. http://www.burtonmail.co.uk/8203-ashby-woman-spots-a-black-panther-while-out-walking-with-her-mother-in-law/story-30361569-detail/story.html Edited June 1, 2017 by Saru Updated source, title 7 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaginarynumber1 Posted June 1, 2017 #2 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Quote "It was getting late, so we decided to take a torch – there was just about enough light to walk. As we were coming along the path, I saw something lying down and I was trying to figure out what it was. Headline should read "Woman sees normal housecat at dusk, freaks out". 4 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt221 Posted June 1, 2017 Author #3 Share Posted June 1, 2017 5 minutes ago, Imaginarynumber1 said: Headline should read "Woman sees normal housecat at dusk, freaks out". Who says"Hey it's getting dark think I'll go for a walk with my mother in law " 6 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted June 1, 2017 #4 Share Posted June 1, 2017 There sure are a lot of big cat sightings over there. 5 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DebDandelion Posted June 2, 2017 #5 Share Posted June 2, 2017 15 hours ago, Matt221 said: Who says"Hey it's getting dark think I'll go for a walk with my mother in law " Someone that felt bloated. (@pparantly) 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted June 2, 2017 #6 Share Posted June 2, 2017 It is possible it could have been an escaped or let loose pet. But she obvious does not know what a black panther really looks like because prominent shoulder blades are normal. not sure how she got from rabbit, fox to black panther though. why is she so scared to go out...it did not attack her and no doubt the authorities will be out looking for it.?? 4 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted June 2, 2017 #7 Share Posted June 2, 2017 15 hours ago, OverSword said: There sure are a lot of big cat sightings over there. There is also a zoo there. This is not the first time a cat has been seen http://m.burtonmail.co.uk/has-a-black-panther-been-spotted-roaming-in-the-south-derbyshire-countryside/story-30081573-detail/story.html 7 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Posted June 2, 2017 #8 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Tearing something apart? Surely she'd have told someone who would go and check for at least the bones which were left behind, bite marks maybe? 5 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted June 2, 2017 #9 Share Posted June 2, 2017 21 minutes ago, Timonthy said: Tearing something apart? Surely she'd have told someone who would go and check for at least the bones which were left behind, bite marks maybe? Could have been a rabbit or a fox, so not much would have been left....but she did tell someone...the Burton mail! but as she does not know what a black panther actually looks like, i doubt she would have known which relevent people to phone first...even the zoo would have been a start. 5 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DebDandelion Posted June 2, 2017 #10 Share Posted June 2, 2017 3 hours ago, Timonthy said: Tearing something apart? Surely she'd have told someone who would go and check for at least the bones which were left behind, bite marks maybe? Once fear is instilled the ability to reason seems to take a back seat. I for one would be likely to be eaten, I have a lot of meat and I have been raised to not fear wildlife, it's just doing its thing...just don't bother it. 4 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codenwarra Posted June 2, 2017 #11 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Must be one of those big cats brought over by US troops as mascots in 1917. Or was it 1943? 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt221 Posted June 2, 2017 Author #12 Share Posted June 2, 2017 It's odd how normal people see them and people who spend loads of time in the country side like farmers game keepers etc hardly ever see anything strange . 4 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poohbear Posted June 2, 2017 #13 Share Posted June 2, 2017 On 01/06/2017 at 4:42 PM, Matt221 said: Who says"Hey it's getting dark think I'll go for a walk with my mother in law " "Oh you're back are you dear....Where's Mother? "Er...there was this big cat!" 4 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted June 2, 2017 #14 Share Posted June 2, 2017 40 minutes ago, Codenwarra said: Must be one of those big cats brought over by US troops as mascots in 1917. Or was it 1943? I do not believe they survive that long. 35 minutes ago, Matt221 said: It's odd how normal people see them and people who spend loads of time in the country side like farmers game keepers etc hardly ever see anything strange . could have escaped from Twycross zoo or from a collector.....might even have been a farmer or game keepers own "pet". It is not unheard of: Quote In 1966 Leslie Clews bought his wife Pauline a chimpanzee which they kept at home on Grandborough Farm, just outside Southam on Daventry Road. A few months later they were given a bear and a raccoon from a circus. It naturally led them to open Southam Zoo The family continued to expand their exotic animal collection with the likes of Bengal tigers, black panthers, antelopes and eagles – to name a few. But the zoo closed down in 1985 with many of the animals sold to Twycross Zoo, and the land was also sold. .https://leamingtonobserver.co.uk/news/looking-back-in-time-at-southam-zoo-8610/ 2 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codenwarra Posted June 2, 2017 #15 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Just now, freetoroam said: I do not believe they survive that long. Neither do I, but that was advanced as an "explanation" of the so-called Mt. Larcom panther in Australia in the 1970s. 2 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted June 2, 2017 #16 Share Posted June 2, 2017 4 minutes ago, Codenwarra said: Neither do I, but that was advanced as an "explanation" of the so-called Mt. Larcom panther in Australia in the 1970s. I have never heard of US troops bringing big cats as mascots to England during the war. But they did bring candy, coca cola, cigarettes and nylons, may even be a few empty coke bottles and nylons still in our countryside somewhere. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codenwarra Posted June 2, 2017 #17 Share Posted June 2, 2017 The entire thing is nonsense. There were never any stray panthers, mountain lions, pumas, jaguars or whatever large felines in the UK or Australia, and certainly none from either world war still surviving. It's just one of the the silly "explanations" of things that in fact did not happen. Some people will believe almost anything and go to ridiculous lengths to find some justification for their silly beliefs. There is little limit to their bizarre claims. For a different example, I was told on a different site that Guglielmo Marconi, who developed crude wireless telegraphy (the forerunner of radio, TV, radar, microwave ovens etc) into a commercial proposition in the 1890s and early 1900s was a laboratory assistant to Nikola Tesla. According to the Tesla fan club, Tesla is a forgotten inventor whose world-changing inventions have been "stolen" or neglected by others, usually Edison or Marconi. This feeds into, among the more whacked out members, "free energy". Of course few or none of them know what they are talking about and their claims fail virtually all scrutiny. If you have not heard of Tesla, that's OK, but his main inventions were the Tesla coil which can produce extremely high voltages and the three phase system of alternating electrical current which is still in use around the world and correctly attributed to him. The Tesla coil has limited applications. Mostly it's just a toy. In the 1890s Tesla, along with a dozen others began to dabble in wireless telegraphy with some success. However he was beaten to commercialisation by Marconi whose receivers were more sensitive, and that's big thing in all forms of radio. Since Tesla worked in the USA and Marconi, up to 1901 had never visited the USA it is impossible for him to have been Tesla's lab assistant in the 1890s. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplybill Posted June 2, 2017 #18 Share Posted June 2, 2017 (edited) Just speculating: The women were walking in a familiar area near Mrs. Adams' home, so they had a familiar frame of reference to make a size comparison of the creature to the surrounding trees, the width of the path, and the height of the grass. However, although 15 metres (about 50 feet) is a short enough distance to clearly recognize an object in full daylight, at dusk one's eyesight would be compromised. Just last night I was outdoors at dusk (though not because I was bloated) and I saw a raccoon that was the size of a bear cub. If I wasn't already familiar with raccoons, I might have been terrified at the thought of Mama Bear showing up and giving me a severe beatdown. Edited June 2, 2017 by simplybill Clarification 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taniwha Posted June 2, 2017 #19 Share Posted June 2, 2017 If I walked accidentally into a black panthers I would freeze up and probably get a severe case of brown bottom. 2 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PersonFromPorlock Posted June 3, 2017 #20 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Er... not to be obvious, but how about a black lab quietly enjoying a bone? 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted June 3, 2017 #21 Share Posted June 3, 2017 3 hours ago, Codenwarra said: The entire thing is nonsense. There were never any stray panthers, mountain lions, pumas, jaguars or whatever large felines in the UK This bit is not nonsense....there have been sightings of large cats here...FACT. some escaped from the local zoo and some were either let loose or escaped from collectors. I have seen a large black cat..it escaped from a collector and was wandering aroind a field. 3 hours ago, Codenwarra said: For a different example Without quoting your whole tesla thing....what had any of it got to do with big cats? Lol...looks like you suddenly started posting a piece in the wrong thread. 5 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted June 3, 2017 #22 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Just a note to those thinking no large cats have been sighted...they have. there are explanations for why...as i have posted above. remember...we are not talking silly things here lilke bigfoot or nessy or even more ridiculous claims like aliens/ aliens abductions or a creepypasta invention. 2 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted June 3, 2017 #23 Share Posted June 3, 2017 I'm quite open-minded about it, having read the reports of sightings made by people who handle big cats for a living. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldrover Posted June 3, 2017 #24 Share Posted June 3, 2017 15 hours ago, Codenwarra said: The entire thing is nonsense. There were never any stray panthers, mountain lions, pumas, jaguars or whatever large felines in the UK or Australia, and certainly none from either world war still surviving. It's just one of the the silly "explanations" of things that in fact did not happen. Some people will believe almost anything and go to ridiculous lengths to find some justification for their silly beliefs. There is little limit to their bizarre claims. I believe that 99.9% of exotic cat sightings are mistakes. But to say these things were hever there is wrong. We have physical proof. The largest trapped specimen was a puma from Scotland in 1980, although that might have been a stunt, but there have been numerous exotic felids recovered from the wild here. How long they'd been at large though is a different matter. 4 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted June 3, 2017 #25 Share Posted June 3, 2017 9 hours ago, oldrover said: I believe that 99.9% of exotic cat sightings are mistakes. But to say these things were hever there is wrong. We have physical proof. The largest trapped specimen was a puma from Scotland in 1980, although that might have been a stunt, but there have been numerous exotic felids recovered from the wild here. How long they'd been at large though is a different matter. The bold is the key....there have been escaped cats, but they are caught - eventually. There have been reports of cats escaping from zoos, circuses and private collectors. And yes...some reports of big cats are by people who have mistaken what they thought they saw, especially when they are visiting an area which has been in the news before because of big cat sightings. Like the bigfoot and neesy stories, some people want to be one of the "few" who see the "beasts"....and will mistake a bear for bigfoot, a log for nessy and a wild boar for a panther. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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