+OverSword Posted June 14, 2017 #1 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Quote There have been allegations that US-led coalition forces in Raqqa, Syria were using white phosphorous in civilian populated areas. Although is was denied, the United States is now admitting to using white phosphorous in Mosul, Iraq. Witnesses claimed to have seen the white phosphorous, which has a distinct look to it. Images and reports from witnesses in the northern Syrian city of Raqqa suggest that the United States-led coalition battling the Islamic State there has used munitions loaded with white phosphorus, the use of which in populated areas is prohibited under international law. Photographs and video clips posted online showed blinding spots of light spreading outward on Thursday night over what residents said was eastern Raqqa. By day, the images showed low white puffs trailing tentacles of white smoke. Both are typical visual signatures of white phosphorus, which can be loaded into artillery shells Link 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaginarynumber1 Posted June 14, 2017 #2 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Well, depending on where it was used, that could be a war crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Caspian Hare Posted June 14, 2017 #3 Share Posted June 14, 2017 (edited) A long time ago when I was an artillery forward observer, they told us law of land warfare allowed its use, it was considered simply another weapon. Edited June 14, 2017 by The Russian Hare spelling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted June 14, 2017 Author #4 Share Posted June 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Imaginarynumber1 said: Well, depending on where it was used, that could be a war crime. 21 minutes ago, The Russian Hare said: A long time ago when I was an artillery forward observer, they told us law of land warfare allowed its use, it was considered simply another weapon. It's a war crime to use it in the vicinity of civilians (I believe) and the Kiwi general said they were using it to shield civilians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaginarynumber1 Posted June 14, 2017 #5 Share Posted June 14, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, OverSword said: It's a war crime to use it in the vicinity of civilians (I believe) and the Kiwi general said they were using it to shield civilians. I believe you are correct. I'm sure I could find the answer online, but i'm busy doing.... stuff.... Though "shielding civilians" necessitates the use near civilians. Edited June 14, 2017 by Imaginarynumber1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellapenella Posted June 15, 2017 #6 Share Posted June 15, 2017 2 hours ago, OverSword said: Link Witnesses claimed to have seen the white phosphorous, which has a distinct look to it. Who are these witnesses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted June 15, 2017 #7 Share Posted June 15, 2017 3 hours ago, Imaginarynumber1 said: Well, depending on where it was used, that could be a war crime. Using it as a smoke screen to maneuver isn't illegal. It's a horrific weapon and I can't think of anyone I'd rather see wounded with it than ISIS. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted June 15, 2017 Author #8 Share Posted June 15, 2017 15 hours ago, Ellapennella said: Who are these witnesses? Who needs witnesses? They admitted it's use. Please read the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kartikg Posted June 15, 2017 #9 Share Posted June 15, 2017 all hell would have broken loose if it was used by Russians. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ouija ouija Posted June 15, 2017 #10 Share Posted June 15, 2017 This is a very short article that I found helpful(knowing nothing about white phosphorus). http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2009/03/whats_so_great_about_white_phosphorus.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellapenella Posted June 15, 2017 #11 Share Posted June 15, 2017 20 hours ago, OverSword said: Link it was utilized to get civilians out safely. one of those witnesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted June 15, 2017 #12 Share Posted June 15, 2017 3 hours ago, kartikg said: all hell would have broken loose if it was used by Russians. To which response the Russians would have rolled their eyes and moved on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kartikg Posted June 15, 2017 #13 Share Posted June 15, 2017 3 hours ago, and then said: To which response , the Russians would have rolled their eyes and moved on. maybe but there would be talk of war crimesinvestigation, sanctions , human right abuse etc etc don't you feel usa gets off easily ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted June 16, 2017 #14 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Willy Peter is nasty stuff--but very effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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