Italy has had enough Refugees

[The Silver Thong]

3 minutes ago, FLOMBIE said:

I don't know, that's not Germany. Have you done the research? That is what you should do!

OK so now Gemany is not a part Europe got it.  Oh is this fake

 

[FLOMBIE]

3 minutes ago, The Silver Thong said:

OK so now Gemany is not a part Europe got it.  Oh is this fake

 

You didn't even read the article, did you? It is about the Netherlands! It's really embarrassing now...

And stop it with your propaganda videos.

 

E: Oh, wait, maybe you are not even aware that Germany and the Netherlands are both sovereign nations. Do I have to explain to you how many countries we have in Europe, and what the EU is? Do you think there is an EU police?

Edited July 4, 2017 by FLOMBIE

[The Silver Thong]

5 minutes ago, FLOMBIE said:

You didn't even read the article, did you? It is about the Netherlands! It's really embarrassing now...

And stop it with your propaganda videos.

 

E: Oh, wait, maybe you are not even aware that Germany and the Netherlands are both sovereign nations. Do I have to explain to you how many countries we have in Europe, and what the EU is? Do you think there is an EU police?

I don`t know I should even point this out to you. If it`s fake let me know I can take it.

 

[The Silver Thong]

11 minutes ago, FLOMBIE said:

You didn't even read the article, did you? It is about the Netherlands! It's really embarrassing now...

And stop it with your propaganda videos.

 

E: Oh, wait, maybe you are not even aware that Germany and the Netherlands are both sovereign nations. Do I have to explain to you how many countries we have in Europe, and what the EU is? Do you think there is an EU police?

I said there was an EU police I don`t think I ever said that actually I know I didn`t. Hmm so I guess according to you I can`t say Canada is not connected to the US.

Edited July 4, 2017 by The Silver Thong

[FLOMBIE]

1 minute ago, The Silver Thong said:

I said there was an EU police I don`t think I ever said that actually I know I didn`t. Hmm so I guess according to you I can`t say Canada is not connected to the US.

I was asking you a question. You should have answered with yes or no. I didn't make the claim you said there was. So much for reading comprehension. 

 

I find it remarkable how you just cut past the embarrassing things you say and move on. I have refuted so many of your claims tonight, that it's enough for me. It's 11 PM over here, and I think I have earned my rest. Catch you tomorrow, buddy!

[The Silver Thong]

4 minutes ago, FLOMBIE said:

I was asking you a question. You should have answered with yes or no. I didn't make the claim you said there was. So much for reading comprehension. 

 

I find it remarkable how you just cut past the embarrassing things you say and move on. I have refuted so many of your claims tonight, that it's enough for me. It's 11 PM over here, and I think I have earned my rest. Catch you tomorrow, buddy!

What the hell are you even talking about. Are you old enough to be on this site

[The Silver Thong]

10 minutes ago, FLOMBIE said:

I was asking you a question. You should have answered with yes or no. I didn't make the claim you said there was. So much for reading comprehension. 

 

I find it remarkable how you just cut past the embarrassing things you say and move on. I have refuted so many of your claims tonight, that it's enough for me. It's 11 PM over here, and I think I have earned my rest. Catch you tomorrow, buddy!

post when I said that

[Setton]

1 hour ago, Dark_Grey said:

..you are the only one in the thread talking about murder. Do you really believe we want to kill people? Who the hell mentioned anything about that?

That would be here

On 03/07/2017 at 5:32 AM, The Silver Thong said:

Send a message no more or else bomb bomb 

And here

On 03/07/2017 at 7:55 AM, kartikg said:

I suggest an extreme step of just shooting and drowning the boats as soon as they enter Italian waters? if this happens just once it will stop the illegal migration . 

45 minutes ago, FLOMBIE said:

I find it remarkable how you just cut past the embarrassing things you say and move on. I have refuted so many of your claims tonight, that it's enough for me. It's 11 PM over here, and I think I have earned my rest. Catch you tomorrow, buddy!

 

It's the Trump approach: ramble and spout crap and eventually you might make a valid point (only so many words in English after all). Then just deny or ignore all the ill-informed, embarrassing stuff you came out with before. 

[The Silver Thong]

3 minutes ago, Setton said:

That would be here

And here

 

It's the Trump approach: ramble and spout crap and eventually you might make a valid point (only so many words in English after all). Then just deny or ignore all the ill-informed, embarrassing stuff you came out with before. 

Let them live with you, you won`t last a day.

Edited July 4, 2017 by The Silver Thong

[Setton]

24 minutes ago, The Silver Thong said:

Let them live with you, you won`t last a day.

OK, that's nice. 

Must call that family from Lesotho that stayed with me for a few days. Or the Kenyan family I spent a month with.

God knows how I've survived this long. 

Or, you know, the Canadian maybe doesn't know as much about Europe, the Middle East or Africa as he'd like to pretend. 

[Likely Guy]

5 hours ago, The Silver Thong said:

Let`s make this clear. It`s a cival war and we should have nothing to do with it.

Yeah, the "Underground Railroad' should have stopped when the first shells hit Fort Sumter.

[Likely Guy]

2 hours ago, Setton said:

OK, that's nice. 

Must call that family from Lesotho that stayed with me for a few days. Or the Kenyan family I spent a month with.

God knows how I've survived this long. 

Or, you know, the Canadian maybe doesn't know as much about Europe, the Middle East or Africa as he'd like to pretend. 

Hey, he has both high speed internet and a you-tube channel. He cannot be judged.

(inhale, exhale, etcetera.)

Edited July 5, 2017 by Likely Guy

[Golden Duck]

9 hours ago, Dark_Grey said:

Where are you getting these hypothetical situations? Who is sinking boats of migrants?

From the post that mentioned "shooting and drowning boats"

[FLOMBIE]

15 hours ago, The Silver Thong said:

What the hell are you even talking about. Are you old enough to be on this site

Some people in our society have to get up early. Youtubers like you don't count, though. 

15 hours ago, The Silver Thong said:

post when I said that

Dude, can you read? I said I didn't make the claim. 

[Dark_Grey]

16 hours ago, Setton said:

It's the Trump approach: ramble and spout crap and eventually you might make a valid point (only so many words in English after all).

Good point. We should all strive to be more like the UK: peak perfection of what a country should be. The perfect language, the perfect economy, the perfect utopia...

Even though your country is now averaging a major terrorist attack every few weeks and your politicians excuse it, you seem to have no qualms pointing out the failures and inadequacies of other nations. Between the EU and the horrible, horrible long-term choices for Prime Minister, the future of Britainistan is bleak. Continue slinging mud at America if it makes you feel better because in 15 years it won't matter: your most popular baby name will be Muhammad but we will still be America. Now scurry along so you don't miss the call to prayer.

 

[Dark_Grey]

17 hours ago, Helen of Annoy said:

How else could you stop them? 

Either you get them, either you sink them. Or you'd rather shoot them on the shore? It would be bad for tourism, but still better than bloated corpses washing ashore. 

Why not just escort the boats back to shore? If they land, incarcerate the occupants until they can be identified.

Or you can shoot them, Helen, if it makes you feel better.

[Setton]

28 minutes ago, Dark_Grey said:

Good point. We should all strive to be more like the UK: peak perfection of what a country should be. The perfect language, the perfect economy, the perfect utopia...

Even though your country is now averaging a major terrorist attack every few weeks and your politicians excuse it, you seem to have no qualms pointing out the failures and inadequacies of other nations. Between the EU and the horrible, horrible long-term choices for Prime Minister, the future of Britainistan is bleak. Continue slinging mud at America if it makes you feel better because in 15 years it won't matter: your most popular baby name will be Muhammad but we will still be America. Now scurry along so you don't miss the call to prayer.

 

I'm under no illusions about my country and if you believe I think it's perfect, you're not paying attention. 

But the flaws of my country don't excuse yours. I have a different prediction, from the inside. In 15 years, Britain will still be in decline on the world stage but life won't change much for us. The US will either have got back on track as a world leader or will continue its newfound trend into isolationism and obscurity. I hope I'm wrong but if your attitude is representative of the average American, I don't think I am. 

[Helen of Annoy]

35 minutes ago, Dark_Grey said:

Why not just escort the boats back to shore? If they land, incarcerate the occupants until they can be identified.

Or you can shoot them, Helen, if it makes you feel better.

You've got problem with understanding the written contents if you somehow managed to mangle what I actually said into its complete opposite. Or maybe you've got problems identifying sarcasm? Or maybe you're just trying to sit on two chairs at once. That art takes a little more balanced people, you know.

Escorting them back from where to where? From Lampedusa to Libya? Who's paying for that? One could open a workshop in Africa and employ the whole boatload with the money wasted on fuel and personnel for just one trip back to (currently) hell. Few trips and you've got water pumping station or small hospital etc. 

 

Incarcerate... sure, that solves... how many problems? None. Exactly none. Instead of refugee you've got a prisoner. 

By the way, these people are identified, or at least listed. Contrary to popular rabid hate- and fear-monger theories, they are not prone to terrorism. They are running away from it.

 

Only through helping them you can help yourself. 

Or you can shoot them on the shore. Or wade through corpses in the shallows of blue Mediterranean sea. Smell decomposition in the salty breeze. (Certainly, it will be someone else to actually do that, you'll just cheer in front of your screen.)

 

See, I just realized how much you don't understand what you're talking about. 

Go in peace and try to go outside some more. Maybe it dawns on you.  

[Dark_Grey]

8 minutes ago, Helen of Annoy said:

Only through helping them you can help yourself.

Only through reading this can you help yourself (maybe)

Spoiler

 

39 minutes ago, Setton said:

I'm under no illusions about my country and if you believe I think it's perfect, you're not paying attention. 

All you have is illusions about your country. Every news article and every story is met with your deep skepticism and usually just outright denial. You claim to know what's happening better than any of us since you are at ground zero but you are only person - you can't possibly know every neighborhood and street. If the UK is as safe and unaffected as you constantly imply, where is all the terrorism content coming from?

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Britain will still be in decline on the world stage but life won't change much for us.

...but it already has. London is under the thumb of Islamists now, from the political to the street level. You can claim all day that Sharia courts don't hold any legal weight and you may be right - but how long will that last? How long until other sympathetic Muslim MP's are elected and start to restrict the rights of non-Muslims, like they are attempting to do with "Islamophobic speech" in Canada? Jihad isn't always about bombs and guns, there is a very heavy political element written in their texts. Political Jihad is still a form of Jihad. However, there is a resistance growing.

 

10,000 Londoners marched through the streets to protest extremist Islam and Sharia Law, although something seems to be missing...

Spoiler

"Moderate Muslims"

Here's my challenge to you: find a MSM article covering this event. *** blocked ***, the independent, the BBC, I don't care. The point is to illustrate how strongly the major outlets are trying to portray a different narrative than what is happening. They are quick to cover any perceived Islamophobia but they won't cover 10,000 people marching through the streets in defiance of it? Just look at that crowd and tell me how this wasn't a national story.

This is a big deal for the UK and just highlights, yet again, the folly of expecting the major news outlets to accurately report what is happening around you.

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I hope I'm wrong but if your attitude is representative of the average American, I don't think I am. 

lol you just can't resist, can you

[Helen of Annoy]

6 minutes ago, Dark_Grey said:

Only through reading this can you help yourself (maybe)

  Hide contents

 

The literature (edit: it's 'Understanding Spoken English') you recommended doesn't explain covfefe. Sad. 

I told you you should get outside some more, this hobby you're pursuing here will ruin your nerves. 

Edited July 5, 2017 by Helen of Annoy

[Grey Area]

52 minutes ago, Dark_Grey said:

Only through reading this can you help yourself (maybe)

  Reveal hidden contents

 

All you have is illusions about your country. Every news article and every story is met with your deep skepticism and usually just outright denial. You claim to know what's happening better than any of us since you are at ground zero but you are only person - you can't possibly know every neighborhood and street. If the UK is as safe and unaffected as you constantly imply, where is all the terrorism content coming from?

...but it already has. London is under the thumb of Islamists now, from the political to the street level. You can claim all day that Sharia courts don't hold any legal weight and you may be right - but how long will that last? How long until other sympathetic Muslim MP's are elected and start to restrict the rights of non-Muslims, like they are attempting to do with "Islamophobic speech" in Canada? Jihad isn't always about bombs and guns, there is a very heavy political element written in their texts. Political Jihad is still a form of Jihad. However, there is a resistance growing.

 

10,000 Londoners marched through the streets to protest extremist Islam and Sharia Law, although something seems to be missing...

  Reveal hidden contents

"Moderate Muslims"

Here's my challenge to you: find a MSM article covering this event. *** blocked ***, the independent, the BBC, I don't care. The point is to illustrate how strongly the major outlets are trying to portray a different narrative than what is happening. They are quick to cover any perceived Islamophobia but they won't cover 10,000 people marching through the streets in defiance of it? Just look at that crowd and tell me how this wasn't a national story.

This is a big deal for the UK and just highlights, yet again, the folly of expecting the major news outlets to accurately report what is happening around you.

lol you just can't resist, can you

Don't presume to know what the situation is in the U.K. having only the media to inform you.

then openly criticise the media for not giving a representative picture.  That makes your whole outlook on the subject rather weak.

[Dark_Grey]

27 minutes ago, Grey Area said:

Don't presume to know what the situation is in the U.K. having only the media to inform you.

then openly criticise the media for not giving a representative picture.  That makes your whole outlook on the subject rather weak.

I don't presume anything - I react to what I hear and read from sources in the UK. Openly criticizing one form of media doesn't apply that criticism to all media. For example, I posted a YouTube video because a BBC article on the march doesn't exist. The state sponsored media is neglecting to cover a major event that happened at home because the event shows vast numbers of people supporting a different story than what has been presented. CNN has been doing the same thing here with ANTIFA and "free speech" events - they simply refuse to give air time to a story that doesn't meet their criteria, no matter how important the story is.

That is pretty gross and very worthy of criticism.

[Setton]

1 hour ago, Dark_Grey said:

 

All you have is illusions about your country. Every news article and every story is met with your deep skepticism and usually just outright denial. You claim to know what's happening better than any of us since you are at ground zero but you are only person - you can't possibly know every neighborhood and street. If the UK is as safe and unaffected as you constantly imply, where is all the terrorism content coming from?

No, I can't know every neighbourhood and every street but I can know a damn sight more than you can from thousands of miles away. Incidentally, I work in Bradford, one of the most diverse cities so I think I have a rather better understanding of the situation in the UK than you do.

Every story should be met with scepticism. Otherwise you're just blindly accepting the first account you hear. Oh wait...

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...but it already has. London is under the thumb of Islamists now, from the political to the street level. You can claim all day that Sharia courts don't hold any legal weight and you may be right - but how long will that last? How long until other sympathetic Muslim MP's are elected and start to restrict the rights of non-Muslims, like they are attempting to do with "Islamophobic speech" in Canada? Jihad isn't always about bombs and guns, there is a very heavy political element written in their texts. Political Jihad is still a form of Jihad. However, there is a resistance growing.

Hahahahahahaha

 

That's the only response this paranoid rant merits.
 

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10,000 Londoners marched through the streets to protest extremist Islam and Sharia Law, although something seems to be missing...

moderate muslims

 

Gee... wonder why moderate muslims wouldn't be there. Perhaps concerned these people wouldn't differentiate between moderate Muslims and extremists?

FYI your summary is also wrong. 10,000 Londoners did not march to protest extremist Islam and Sharia Law. A few hundred to a few thousand members of the Football Lads' Alliance (drawing from the whole country, not just London), marched to protest against extremism. The Met hasn't issued a confirmation of numbers so your claim of 10,000 is also unsubstantiated. 500 were expected. This is according to Breitbart (thought I'd find something to your taste).

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/06/24/antifa-anti-terrorism-protesters-descend-london/

I would like to see your source.

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Here's my challenge to you: find a MSM article covering this event. *** blocked ***, the independent, the BBC, I don't care. The point is to illustrate how strongly the major outlets are trying to portray a different narrative than what is happening. They are quick to cover any perceived Islamophobia but they won't cover 10,000 people marching through the streets in defiance of it? Just look at that crowd and tell me how this wasn't a national story.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/heavy-police-presence-in-the-capital-as-football-lads-alliance-and-edl-march-xtcprkrw7

http://www.*** blocked ***/news/uk/820888/EDL-London-London-Bridge-Police-Presence-Monument-St-Pauls-Latest-News

The Times and Express are pretty mainstream.

As much as anything, it was eclipsed by the simultaneous EDL and UAF marches with their clashes and one speaker claiming he'll 'be the first white suicide bomber'. More of a news story than 'a few hundred football fans marched peacefully'. They have another one planned for October. It'll be more interesting to see how that's reported.

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This is a big deal for the UK and just highlights, yet again, the folly of expecting the major news outlets to accurately report what is happening around you.

This is a big deal for UM and just highlights, yet again, the folly of expecting some members to do their research.

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lol you just can't resist, can you

Hey, I just said 'if'.

I don't think you can be representative of the average American since I know quite a few who are pleasant people capable of an informed, civilised debate.

 

ETA: I'll make the same offer I made to And Then. Come to the UK, we'll go for a drink and see if we can find these extremist, no-go areas you think exist.

Edited July 5, 2017 by Setton

[Mr.United_Nations]

On 7/3/2017 at 4:37 AM, papageorge1 said:

I was saying just take them back to the port where they left from and be done with it. It might be harsh to the first boatloads but the word must get out that this must be stopped. To save future lives this might be the best thing. These crazy undocumented life threatening journeys should be stopped.

I am willing to listen if you think this is wrong.

There are various gangs  and armed groups that operate in Libya, I don't think send8ng an escorted will help

[+and-then]

22 hours ago, glorybebe said:

Don't try to change your new country into your old one.

Precisely so.  I used to think that most of the Muslims that fled Islamic/Sharia dominated countries came here or Europe for freedom.  Now I wonder if they are simply complicit with the terrorists or too damned cowardly to stand apart from them.  France and Sweden are gone.  It would take a civil war to regain the land that was freely given to the immigrants.  Germany and the UK still have a chance but they need to remove ALL Liberal politicians from office asap OR actually begin shutting down commerce with protests.  These governments are interested in some goal that the people DO NOT SHARE, and the people will have to fight it, sooner or later if they wish to be free.