MDagger Posted July 11, 2017 #51 Share Posted July 11, 2017 3 hours ago, susieice said: Well, if you look at the mosaic, one has a tuft, the one behind it does not. Maybe removing the tuft would help in identification ? (Yes I had difficulty clipping freehand). MDagger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted July 11, 2017 #52 Share Posted July 11, 2017 8 hours ago, susieice said: So there's 2 of them there. Maybe ... 2 pinecones , the one at the back is shown smaller as it is , or it is supposed to help the perspective of the mosaic . I am not convinced that the 'tuft' is attached to the 'fruit' / 'cone' Look closely , it is not 'centered' over the top of the 'fruit' , it might be herbs, plant, decor, as on the other end of the plate . Or ' garnish ' as it's called nowadays . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted July 11, 2017 #53 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Thing is , I have eaten local pine nuts , Bunya pine nuts, Lebanese pine nuts .... and never has , a local , an Aboriginal or a Lebanese had them on offer as food or nibbles in the cone . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted July 11, 2017 #54 Share Posted July 11, 2017 4 hours ago, MDagger said: Maybe removing the tuft would help in identification ? (Yes I had difficulty clipping freehand). MDagger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmt_sesh Posted July 12, 2017 #55 Share Posted July 12, 2017 1 hour ago, back to earth said: I think that guy in the middle is carrying a tray of bread. But nice toga-type garment. I'm wearing one just like it right now. The knot rides against my hip a bit too snugly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted July 12, 2017 #56 Share Posted July 12, 2017 you know... if the Romans had a trade route to South America it's quite possible that they also had ham and pineapple pizzas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmt_sesh Posted July 12, 2017 #57 Share Posted July 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, Captain Risky said: you know... if the Romans had a trade route to South America it's quite possible that they also had ham and pineapple pizzas. Ham? Fine. But the last thing you should ever put on a pizza is pineapple. One of the last things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted July 12, 2017 #58 Share Posted July 12, 2017 You know I've heard this argument before... I can't see how pizza would fall into some type of puritanical law. pineapple is yummy. Ham is yummy. Hot bread is yummy. Sauce is yummy. What's not to like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmt_sesh Posted July 12, 2017 #59 Share Posted July 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Captain Risky said: ...pineapple is yummy. Ham is yummy. Hot bread is yummy. Sauce is yummy. What's not to like? All of that is yummy—except pineapple. I don't know why. I love fruit and eat it all the time, but never liked pineapple. Don't like either the taste or the texture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted July 12, 2017 #60 Share Posted July 12, 2017 46 minutes ago, kmt_sesh said: All of that is yummy—except pineapple. I don't know why. I love fruit and eat it all the time, but never liked pineapple. Don't like either the taste or the texture. Okaay. For a second I thought you were one of those purists that only likes the traditional Italian pizza varieties. You know thou... from the looks of that mosaic the Romans liked their pineapple too. What do you think it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted July 12, 2017 #61 Share Posted July 12, 2017 From the tuff on the end and the size I"d guess it was a pomegranate displaying stylized pips on it's surface that are concealed until the fruit is opened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted July 12, 2017 #62 Share Posted July 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Captain Risky said: you know... if the Romans had a trade route to South America it's quite possible that they also had ham and pineapple pizzas. Around here we call them Hawaiian Pizzas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted July 12, 2017 #63 Share Posted July 12, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, back to earth said: Thing is , I have eaten local pine nuts , Bunya pine nuts, Lebanese pine nuts .... and never has , a local , an Aboriginal or a Lebanese had them on offer as food or nibbles in the cone . Yes. In one of your previous posts, you said they had to be roasted to get the nuts out. I would think that would already be done and put in a separate dish. I would expect olives to be on the plate before a pine cone. The tuft may be more centered between the two. The other end of the plate shows fig leaves coming off the figs. What type of garnish would you use to set off a pine cone? They ate quite a variety of nuts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Roman_cuisine From the link: The ancient Romans ate walnuts, almonds, hazel nuts, pine nuts, chestnuts and sesame seeds, which they sometimes pulverized to thicken spiced, sweet wine sauces for roast meat and fowl. Nuts and fruit were used in pastries, tarts and puddings sweetened with honey. Pine nuts is there but why serve the pine cone? Edited July 12, 2017 by susieice 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted July 12, 2017 #64 Share Posted July 12, 2017 2 hours ago, kmt_sesh said: Ham? Fine. But the last thing you should ever put on a pizza is pineapple. One of the last things. Oh no .... you obviously have not been to 'Pimpama Gourmet Pizzas ' ( gourmet means they cost a lot ) . I looked on the menu in the window .... one 'pizza' (cant remember the name ) had .... You better sit down first .... alfalfa sprouts and sliced banana on it . I would pick you as a 'cheeseburger crust pizza ' type of guy ( if you get two and turn one over , you can make a big sandwich out of them ) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted July 12, 2017 #65 Share Posted July 12, 2017 2 hours ago, kmt_sesh said: All of that is yummy—except pineapple. I don't know why. I love fruit and eat it all the time, but never liked pineapple. Don't like either the taste or the texture. Nasty accident with one , as a kid ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted July 12, 2017 #66 Share Posted July 12, 2017 45 minutes ago, susieice said: Around here we call them Hawaiian Pizzas. There ya go ! proof of yet another risky theory ! Hawaii was the stop over point for the Romans on their way to Sth America . Now , I know you are going to say that is the long way 'around ' but they actually had to make a stop over before that . Otherwise Romans would never have had their kangaroo tail pies . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted July 12, 2017 #67 Share Posted July 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, back to earth said: Hawaii was the stop over point for the Romans on their way to Sth America Probably why they pinapples are so small had to pick them green so they wouldn't spoil before they got home to make pizza and smoke some Columbian. jmccr8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted July 12, 2017 #68 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Ah heck , lets go all the way . The ancient Egyptians had pizza too ! of course the shape was a little different ..... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted July 12, 2017 #69 Share Posted July 12, 2017 37 minutes ago, jmccr8 said: Probably why they pinapples are so small had to pick them green so they wouldn't spoil before they got home to make pizza and smoke some Columbian. jmccr8 Its the now extinct ' cherry pineapple ' , very small, just bigger than a few grapes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted July 12, 2017 #70 Share Posted July 12, 2017 1 hour ago, susieice said: Around here we call them Hawaiian Pizzas. Same. But in Australia, Queensland specifically, we grow pineapples here. So they should be called Queenslander's. And on that note I hope NSW win tonight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
back to earth Posted July 12, 2017 #71 Share Posted July 12, 2017 (edited) Oh my God ! I nearly forgot ! It's the ' State of Origin ' Qld Vs NSW pineapple throwing competition ! Dont try it at home kids ! Spoiler Edited July 12, 2017 by back to earth 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDagger Posted July 12, 2017 #72 Share Posted July 12, 2017 12 hours ago, back to earth said: 17 hours ago, MDagger said: Maybe removing the tuft would help in identification ? (Yes I had difficulty clipping freehand). MDagger Well maybe we should leave the tuft on this one.... and I won't attempt freehand. MDagger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanslune Posted July 12, 2017 #73 Share Posted July 12, 2017 11 hours ago, kmt_sesh said: All of that is yummy—except pineapple. I don't know why. I love fruit and eat it all the time, but never liked pineapple. Don't like either the taste or the texture. Ah well we must disagree I'm an old fan of pineapple, Canadian ham, mushrooms and garlic on pizza 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanslune Posted July 12, 2017 #74 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Just a note none of the famous Roman writers mentioned pineapples (had they existed they would of course had another name) or described anything like it especially not even writing attributed to followers of Epicurus. Nor did Cato and Pliny* in their writings and encyclopedia's don't mention them either, nor any mysterious fruit that cannot be ID. * Pliny's Natural History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_History_(Pliny)#Agriculture 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarocal Posted July 12, 2017 #75 Share Posted July 12, 2017 14 minutes ago, Hanslune said: Just a note none of the famous Roman writers mentioned pineapples (had they existed they would of course had another name) or described anything like it especially not even writing attributed to followers of Epicurus. Nor did Cato and Pliny* in their writings and encyclopedia's don't mention them either, nor any mysterious fruit that cannot be ID. * Pliny's Natural History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_History_(Pliny)#Agriculture There are some written accounts where pineapple was used in Europe to refer to pinecones prior to contact with the Americas. I believe Colavito cites a specific instance or two in his blog entry about this mosaic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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