The Urantia Papers

[jaylemurph]

1 hour ago, Luis Marco said:

URANTIA reveals we are all brothers and sisters and friends and fellows and so on. (...)

So does the Bible. This has not, to my knowledge, even once stopped Christians from happily killing even other Christians whose faith varied minutely.

--Jaylemurph

[c.s.lewis]

18 hours ago, jaylemurph said:

So does the Bible. This has not, to my knowledge, even once stopped Christians from happily killing even other Christians whose faith varied minutely.

--Jaylemurph

URANTIA came also to unite us and to have unity with other beings, the universe, and GOD, and it doesn't force us to do it all, however has recommendations to do all that...

[XenoFish]

1 hour ago, Luis Marco said:

URANTIA came also to unite us and to have unity with other beings, the universe, and GOD, and it doesn't force us to do it all, however has recommendations to do all that...

By joining a cult.

[Will Due]

1 hour ago, XenoFish said:

By joining a cult.

 

Well if you want to join a cult, you won't find one where you'll find a copy of the Urantia Book. 

Because if there isn't a High Priest, a priesthood of any kind for that matter, no church or congregation and no rituals, how can there be a cult?

It's just an extraordinary book that anyone can read. Perhaps the most extraordinary in all the world.  

 

 

[SHaYap]

5 hours ago, Will Due said:

It's just an extraordinary book that anyone can read. Perhaps the most extraordinary in all the world.  

Extraordinarily stupid is pretty dang close ... most extraordinary with the stupidity is quite accurate

~

[c.s.lewis]

On 26/11/2018 at 6:58 PM, XenoFish said:

By joining a cult

'The Purpose of Revelation: A Response to Martin Gardner's Urantia: The Great Cult Mystery'

http://www.urantiabook.org/archive/mjs_archive/mjs_purpose_of_revelation.htm

by Meredith Sprunger.

[c.s.lewis]

On 26/11/2018 at 5:53 PM, Luis Marco said:

URANTIA came also to unite us and to have unity with other beings, the universe, and GOD, and it doesn't force us to do it AT all, however has recommendations to do all that...

 

[XenoFish]

A cult of thought.

[Will Due]

 

Here are a couple of things to ponder from the Urantia Book. 

 

"Jesus understood the minds of men. He knew what was in the heart of man, and had his teachings been left as he presented them, the only commentary being the inspired interpretation afforded by his earth life, all nations and all religions of the world would speedily have embraced the gospel of the kingdom. The well-meant efforts of Jesus’ early followers to restate his teachings so as to make them the more acceptable to certain nations, races, and religions, only resulted in making such teachings the less acceptable to all other nations, races, and religions. [Paper 149:2.1, page 1670.2]

 

"All Urantia is waiting for the proclamation of the ennobling message of Jesus, unencumbered by the accumulated doctrines and dogmas of nineteen centuries of contact with the religions of evolutionary origin. The hour is striking for presenting to Buddhism, to Christianity, to Hinduism, even to the peoples of all faiths, not the gospel about Jesus, but the living, spiritual reality of the gospel of Jesus. [Paper 94:12.7, page 1041.5] 

 

"The gospel of the kingdom is: the fact of the fatherhood of God, coupled with the resultant truth of the sonship-brotherhood of men."

 

 

Edited December 22, 2018 by Will Due

[cormac mac airt]

The only thing to ponder about the Urantia Book is why allegedly intelligent people put any stock in it. 

cormac

[Will Due]

 

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49:2.13 (561.12) Beings such as the Urantia races are classified as mid-breathers; you represent the average or typical breathing order of mortal existence. If intelligent creatures should exist on a planet with an atmosphere similar to that of your near neighbor, Venus, they would belong to the superbreather group, while those inhabiting a planet with an atmosphere as thin as that of your outer neighbor, Mars, would be denominated subbreathers.

Link

 

That is quite interesting because at the time the Urantia Book was copyrighted in 1955 it was not known by scientists that Venus had an enormously thick atmosphere or that Mars had a very thin atmosphere

 

 

[+Pettytalk]

2 hours ago, Will Due said:

 

 

That is quite interesting because at the time the Urantia Book was copyrighted in 1955 it was not known by scientists that Venus had an enormously thick atmosphere or that Mars had a very thin atmosphere

 

 

In Edgar Rice Burroughs' Venus series (1934–1946) Venus is a tropical world shielded from the heat of the sun by a perpetual cloud cover.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_in_fiction

Barsoom is a fictional representation of the planet Mars created by American pulp fiction author Edgar Rice Burroughs.

The thinning Barsoomian atmosphere is artificially replenished by an "atmosphere plant" on whose function all life on the planet is dependent. The first Barsoom tale was serialized as Under the Moons of Mars in 1912

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barsoom

 

 

[Will Due]

 

[+Sherapy]

On 12/22/2018 at 4:42 AM, Will Due said:

 

Here are a couple of things to ponder from the Urantia Book. 

 

"Jesus understood the minds of men. He knew what was in the heart of man, and had his teachings been left as he presented them, the only commentary being the inspired interpretation afforded by his earth life, all nations and all religions of the world would speedily have embraced the gospel of the kingdom. The well-meant efforts of Jesus’ early followers to restate his teachings so as to make them the more acceptable to certain nations, races, and religions, only resulted in making such teachings the less acceptable to all other nations, races, and religions. [Paper 149:2.1, page 1670.2]

 

"All Urantia is waiting for the proclamation of the ennobling message of Jesus, unencumbered by the accumulated doctrines and dogmas of nineteen centuries of contact with the religions of evolutionary origin. The hour is striking for presenting to Buddhism, to Christianity, to Hinduism, even to the peoples of all faiths, not the gospel about Jesus, but the living, spiritual reality of the gospel of Jesus. [Paper 94:12.7, page 1041.5] 

 

"The gospel of the kingdom is: the fact of the fatherhood of God, coupled with the resultant truth of the sonship-brotherhood of men."

 

 

What’s the hold up? 

From my view, Jesus is on his way out. 

[Will Due]

1 minute ago, Sherapy said:

From my view, Jesus is on his way out. 

 

Well, perhaps a change in your point of perspective will change what you see.

 

 

[XenoFish]

10 minutes ago, Sherapy said:

What’s the hold up? 

From my view, Jesus is on his way out. 

I think people are growing tired of the empty promises religion offers. 

[Will Due]

1 minute ago, XenoFish said:

I think people are growing tired of the empty promises religion offers. 

 

Your probably right. But that isn't a reason to give up looking for what's true about religion.

 

 

[Jodie.Lynne]

49 minutes ago, Will Due said:

 

Your probably right. But that isn't a reason to give up looking for what's true about religion.

 

 

A concept formed upon falsehoods is hardly likely to reveal truths.

 

[Will Due]

17 minutes ago, Jodie.Lynne said:

A concept formed upon falsehoods is hardly likely to reveal truths.

 

 

There are paradoxes in everything. Sometimes the greater something is falsified, the greater the truth is underneath.

 

 

[ThereWeAreThen]

1 hour ago, Sherapy said:

What’s the hold up? 

From my view, Jesus is on his way out. 

There was even a poll in the middle east and it suggest more and more arabs are giving up their faiths to!

[+Sherapy]

2 hours ago, Will Due said:

 

Well, perhaps a change in your point of perspective will change what you see.

 

 

What perspective would  I consider, Will?  There isn’t anything unique about the Jesus lore that can’t be found elsewhere. 

 

[+Hammerclaw]

7 minutes ago, Sherapy said:

What perspective would  I consider, Will?  There isn’t anything unique about the Jesus lore that can’t be found elsewhere. 

 

https://youtu.be/3wE1sKKZqos

 

[+Sherapy]

5 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said:

https://youtu.be/3wE1sKKZqos

 

Clarify

[Will Due]

1 hour ago, Sherapy said:

What perspective would  I consider, Will?  

 

Usually any perspective you haven't considered before will do. 

 

 

[+Sherapy]

11 minutes ago, Will Due said:

 

Usually any perspective you haven't considered before will do. 

 

 

Such as?