CeresExpo2000 Posted August 18, 2017 #26 Share Posted August 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, ChaosRose said: Thread derailment. We could also discuss the price of tea in China, but it doesn't have anything to do with the topic. President Trump leadership is very critical with the North Korean Crisis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted August 18, 2017 #27 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Obama, Obama, Obama... This thread is about Trump. People just can't quit with the whataboutism. It's like everyone has member berries. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeresExpo2000 Posted August 18, 2017 #28 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Just now, ChaosRose said: Obama, Obama, Obama... This thread is about Trump. People just can't quit with the whataboutism. It's like everyone has member berries. Oh, they have been discussing that on TV. President Trump was handed the North Korean Crisis by the Obama Administration. Susan Rice admitted they failed on North Korea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted August 18, 2017 #29 Share Posted August 18, 2017 (edited) How about somebody address the cult warning signs that are very clear? Nobody's gone anywhere near it and that's interesting. Edited August 18, 2017 by ChaosRose 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeresExpo2000 Posted August 18, 2017 #30 Share Posted August 18, 2017 1 minute ago, ChaosRose said: How about somebody address the cult warning signs that are very clear? I don't understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz_Light_Year Posted August 18, 2017 #31 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Just now, ChaosRose said: How about somebody address the cult warning signs that are very clear? If you have cult warning signs then please share them. Don't ask anyone else to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted August 18, 2017 #32 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Just now, Buzz_Light_Year said: If you have cult warning signs then please share them. Don't ask anyone else to do it. See page one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted August 18, 2017 #33 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Here is another part. The other two are on page one with the link. Ten warning signs regarding people involved in/with a potentially unsafe group/leader. Extreme obsessiveness regarding the group/leader resulting in the exclusion of almost every practical consideration. Individual identity, the group, the leader and/or God as distinct and separate categories of existence become increasingly blurred. Instead, in the follower's mind these identities become substantially and increasingly fused--as that person's involvement with the group/leader continues and deepens. Whenever the group/leader is criticized or questioned it is characterized as "persecution". Uncharacteristically stilted and seemingly programmed conversation and mannerisms, cloning of the group/leader in personal behavior. Dependency upon the group/leader for problem solving, solutions, and definitions without meaningful reflective thought. A seeming inability to think independently or analyze situations without group/leader involvement. Hyperactivity centered on the group/leader agenda, which seems to supercede any personal goals or individual interests. A dramatic loss of spontaneity and sense of humor. Increasing isolation from family and old friends unless they demonstrate an interest in the group/leader. Anything the group/leader does can be justified no matter how harsh or harmful. Former followers are at best-considered negative or worse evil and under bad influences. They can not be trusted and personal contact is avoided. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeresExpo2000 Posted August 18, 2017 #34 Share Posted August 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, ChaosRose said: See page one. Oh, i see. Anyone could easily take out President Trump and apply that same list to Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted August 18, 2017 #35 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Just now, CeresExpo2000 said: It was a positive sign that General Joseph Dunford stopped by China 2 days ago and made sure we were all on the same page. I think that the military professionals the President rely on for counsel are a solid group, on the whole. Putin and Xi seem to intuit that when it comes to pushing the U.S., it is not the wacko character that the Left/media have painted for months that they are dealing with, but a group of well-seasoned professionals that KNOW what it is to employ overwhelming power where it is needed. This is why I'm confident that eventually, China will bring this common thug to heel. The latest round of economic sanctions on Chinese banking may well turn the tide. Jong Un and his criminal enterprise exist for the use of the Chinese to cause a headache for America. Now that they can see that, in Mattis' words, "What keeps you awake at night?" Mattis: "Nothing, I keep other people awake at night." full interview: https://t.co/XaHuN5Nixn ... They realize that the adults have again taken up residence in the White House and it's best to remember that, lest they come up against some hard realities. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz_Light_Year Posted August 18, 2017 #36 Share Posted August 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, ChaosRose said: See page one. So he gives a speech that some people like? Somebody has issues. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted August 18, 2017 #37 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Just now, CeresExpo2000 said: Oh, i see. Anyone could easily take out President Trump and apply that same list to Obama. Not really (and again...we're not talking about Obama here, but...) Did he ever say only he could fix things? Did he malign the media? Did he demonize half the population? Did he go after private citizens on twitter? Did he keep people from accessing his tax returns? I could go on and on. Just about everything on the list can be applied to Trump. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted August 18, 2017 #38 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I have even seen a discussion on here where he is seriously considered as the second coming. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted August 18, 2017 #39 Share Posted August 18, 2017 9 minutes ago, ChaosRose said: Obama, Obama, Obama... This thread is about Trump. People just can't quit with the whataboutism. It's like everyone has member berries. It's about context, especially in this particular situation. I doubt that Trump will still be blaming his predecessor if he's in his second term, as Obama did against Bush. If he does, I will call foul on Trump as well. At some point, a president has to own his own leadership. Those who think that Obama did little to have a negative impact on America were simply unwilling to see the truth. As to Trump being a "great" president, the jury is still out on that for me but I can say that if he left office tomorrow, he'd still have a more honorable legacy than Obama ever will. If the destructive progressive agenda fails, history will be a harsh judge of that man and his criminal acts and associates. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeresExpo2000 Posted August 18, 2017 #40 Share Posted August 18, 2017 1 minute ago, ChaosRose said: Not really (and again...we're not talking about Obama here, but...) Did he ever say only he could fix things? Did he malign the media? Did he demonize half the population? Did he go after private citizens on twitter? Did he keep people from accessing his tax returns? I could go on and on. Just about everything on the list can be applied to Trump. - Obama maligned the Fox News often! (He can't stand criticism.) - Obama hated the Tea Party ( IRS went after them) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted August 18, 2017 #41 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Again...address the cult information. The topic is Donald Trump is a Great President. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted August 18, 2017 #42 Share Posted August 18, 2017 1 minute ago, CeresExpo2000 said: - Obama maligned the Fox News often! (He can't stand criticism.) - Obama hated the Tea Party ( IRS went after them) Please address the criticisms of Trump, since this discussion is about Trump. Everything that you are posting is to obfuscate from that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeresExpo2000 Posted August 18, 2017 #43 Share Posted August 18, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ChaosRose said: Again...address the cult information. The topic is Donald Trump is a Great President. Yes, President Trump is a great president. The Dow reached 22,000 in just a few months. Unemployment is at a 16 year low under his leadership: 4.3%. Edited August 18, 2017 by CeresExpo2000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted August 18, 2017 #44 Share Posted August 18, 2017 15 minutes ago, ChaosRose said: Obama, Obama, Obama... This thread is about Trump. Yes. And it's because of Obama that Trump stands in line to be the greatest president ever. He already is. Can you believe it? Donald Trump is the president! Without Obama, that would have never happened. Without bathrooms, and kneeling before Castro, the list of outrage is long. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer77 Posted August 18, 2017 #45 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Just now, Will Due said: Yes. And it's because of Obama that Trump stands in line to be the greatest president ever. He already is. Can you believe it? Donald Trump is the president! Without Obama, that would have never happened. Without bathrooms, and kneeling before Castro, the list of outrage is long. Where you're wrong is its that Trump's election had nothing to do with Obama, the reason Trump won is many Obama voters couldnt pull the trigger for Hillary. Trump won because Hillary is a horribly unlikable person and made an even worse candidate. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted August 18, 2017 #46 Share Posted August 18, 2017 1 minute ago, CeresExpo2000 said: - Obama maligned the Fox News often! (He can't stand criticism.) - Obama hated the Tea Party ( IRS went after them) Additionally, his administration is finally receiving long overdue scrutiny over the unmasking of political opponents by means of subverting our national intel resources. The hypocrisy of the Left/media knows no bounds but if legal pressure is brought to bear on Samantha Power and she ever decides to tell the truth (and survives to do it), this could become a true scandal the likes of which we have never seen in this country. An ambassador and close associate of the president who is unmasking UNPRECEDENTED numbers of American citizens, most of who were associated with the opposition party's candidate for president, is a story that would destroy a Republican administration and likely find the active agents in prison. What she did had never been done before and the record logs show that she rarely ever even was challenged to provide a reason for her activities. She was NOT in CIA?DIA or any other intel group. She was a damned Ambassador! The prior administration was extremely confident that they'd never have to answer for these things because they'd have another 4-8 years to clean up the data trails. I don't really expect any major player in Oby's circle to actually be convicted and jailed but it will be vindication enough to see them exposed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeresExpo2000 Posted August 18, 2017 #47 Share Posted August 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Farmer77 said: Where you're wrong is its that Trump's election had nothing to do with Obama, the reason Trump won is many Obama voters couldnt pull the trigger for Hillary. Trump won because Hillary is a horribly unlikable person and made an even worse candidate. Yes, the American people did not TRUST Hillary. So they chose President Trump instead. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bama13 Posted August 18, 2017 #48 Share Posted August 18, 2017 28 minutes ago, ChaosRose said: Thread derailment. We could also discuss the price of tea in China, but it doesn't have anything to do with the topic. It was an appropriate response to your post, which had nothing to do with Trump being a great President. That is the topic right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer77 Posted August 18, 2017 #49 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Just now, CeresExpo2000 said: Yes, the American people did not TRUST Hillary. So they chose President Trump instead. Clearly America was doomed from the start of the 2016 election season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted August 18, 2017 #50 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Just now, Farmer77 said: Where you're wrong is its that Trump's election had nothing to do with Obama, the reason Trump won is many Obama voters couldnt pull the trigger for Hillary. Trump won because Hillary is a horribly unlikable person and made an even worse candidate. That's the other reason you're right. Hillary and Obama tag teamed Trump and lost. What a country! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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