Russia probes kick into high gear

[Space Commander Travis]

Just now, Farmer77 said:

Well we should probably start with the fact that the entire administration continually lied about Russians wanting Trump to win when they knew for months.

Holy crap, we knew that for months! Because Hillary spent a good 80% of her time raving about Russkies and what she'd do about them when she came to power. That was why a lot of people opted for the Trump, vile as he may have been in other ways. Why might the current Administration have lied about the Russkies wanting them to win? Precisely because the "Democrats" were making it virtually a hanging offense to believe that it might be desirable to want cordial relations with them?

[Farmer77]

Just now, Manfred von Dreidecker said:

an intternal coup? being set up by the Party who persuaded him to hire them so they could undermine him?

So Jeff Sessions became the very first senator to endorse Trump way back in February 2016 just so he could become the attorney general in order to get caught lying about Russia and recuse himself so his deputy could hire a special counsel to investigate Trump for obstruction of justice after Trump fired the head of the FBI for investigating team Trump's Russia connections? 

 

 

[Farmer77]

1 minute ago, Manfred von Dreidecker said:

Holy crap, we knew that for months! Because Hillary spent a good 80% of her time raving about Russkies and what she'd do about them when she came to power. That was why a lot of people opted for the Trump, vile as he may have been in other ways. Why might the current Administration have lied about the Russkies wanting them to win? Precisely because the "Democrats" were making it virtually a hanging offense to believe that it might be desirable to want cordial relations with them?

No I mean they knew that Russia was actively attempting to help Trump get elected and they lied about knowing that fact. That in and of itself puts the entire Trump/Russia relationship into question. Why lie if there is nothing to hide? 

[RoofGardener]

So, we've got Donald Trump getting help FROM the Russians. 

And Hillary Clinton leaking information TO the Russians through sheer carelessness. 

Tough choice !  

[Farmer77]

3 minutes ago, RoofGardener said:

So, we've got Donald Trump getting help FROM the Russians. 

And Hillary Clinton leaking information TO the Russians through sheer carelessness. 

Tough choice !  

Nahhh its an easy choice....throw both their asses in jail. 

Edited September 17, 2017 by Farmer77

[RoofGardener]

5 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

Nahhh its an easy choice....throw both their asses in jail. 

That would be illegal, unconstitutional, and highly unfair !

I LIKE it  

[Space Commander Travis]

23 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

Nahhh its an easy choice....throw both their asses in jail. 

 

17 minutes ago, RoofGardener said:

That would be illegal, unconstitutional, and highly unfair !

I LIKE it  

just give it to Bernie Sanders, then everyone'll be happy. Particularly since it'll  off Hillary just as much. 

[Farmer77]

1 minute ago, Manfred von Dreidecker said:

 

just give it to Bernie Sanders, then everyone'll be happy. Particularly since it'll  off Hillary just as much. 

Only if Pat Buchanan is his VP 

THAT is an odd couple movie I would watch  .........or the third edition of grumpy old men 

[RoofGardener]

I'm not sure that the US public would appreciate their President being selected by a small group of people in a forum dedicated to the unexplained and eldritch ? 

Mind you.. that WOULD explain Donald Trump becoming president perhaps ? 

[bee]

9 minutes ago, Manfred von Dreidecker said:

 

just give it to Bernie Sanders, then everyone'll be happy. Particularly since it'll  off Hillary just as much. 

but... but...

Bernie went to RUSSIA for his honeymoon ---- 

https://medium.com/the-haven/bernie-sanders-reminisces-about-honeymoon-in-soviet-union-bcbe3537e06c

Q. Let’s move on to a lighter topic. You’ve been married to your wife Jane for almost 30 years. What’s the secret to a successful marriage?

A. One word: romance. For example, on our honeymoon, I took Jane to Russia, back when it was still known as the Soviet Union. Russia was an incredible place back then, before the billionaires ruined everything. Who needs 30 different types of deodorant anyway? In the glory days of the Soviet Union, there was one brand, it was called “Deodorant,” and you had to wait four hours in line for it. By the time you got your hands on one, you were sweating so badly, not even the greediest billionaire’s fanciest deodorant could mask the stench. Or as I call it: The sweet smell of equality!

 

[Farmer77]

3 minutes ago, bee said:

but... but...

Bernie went to RUSSIA for his honeymoon ---- 

https://medium.com/the-haven/bernie-sanders-reminisces-about-honeymoon-in-soviet-union-bcbe3537e06c

 

 

....wonder if Trump used the hotel Bernie stayed in too 

[Paranormal Panther]

15 hours ago, bee said:

but... but...

Bernie went to RUSSIA for his honeymoon ---- 

https://medium.com/the-haven/bernie-sanders-reminisces-about-honeymoon-in-soviet-union-bcbe3537e06c

 

 

Is that a parody? That's a rhetorical question because I know that he's likely a closet commie, and it's a big shame that so many Millennials support this pinko Santa Claus. We dodged *two* bullets named "Clinton" and "Sanders". He's the same guy who claims that there are no poor White Americans.

[Space Commander Travis]

6 hours ago, Paranormal Panther said:

Is that a parody? That's a rhetorical question because I know that he's likely a closet commie, and it's a big shame that so many Millennials support this pinko Santa Claus.

Sen. McCarthy is proud of you. Look how pleased he is.

Edited September 18, 2017 by Manfred von Dreidecker

[Farmer77]

Mueller just obtained a warrant that could change the entire nature of the Russia investigation

 

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FBI Special Counsel Robert Mueller reportedly obtained a search warrant for records of the "inauthentic" accounts Facebook shut down earlier this month and the targeted ads these accounts purchased during the 2016 election. 

The warrant was first disclosed by the Wall Street Journal on Friday night and the news was later confirmed by CNN.

Legal experts say the revelation has enormous implications for the trajectory of Mueller's investigation into Russia's election interference, and whether Moscow had any help from President Donald Trump's campaign team.

"This is big news — and potentially bad news for the Russian election interference 'deniers,'" said Asha Rangappa, a former FBI counterintelligence agent.

 

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"The key here, though, is that Mueller clearly already has enough information on these accounts — and their link to a potential crime to justify forcing [Facebook] to give up the info," she said. "That means that he has uncovered a great deal of evidence through other avenues of Russian election interference."

It also means that Mueller is no longer looking at Russia's election interference from a strict counterintelligence standpoint — rather, he now believes he may be able to obtain enough evidence to charge specific foreign entities with a crime.

 

[Space Commander Travis]

Oh, blah blah blah. This is why we love the Donald.  Because he's funny!  

 

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Trump retweets GIF of golf ball hitting Hillary Clinton. Liberal left has collective meltdown (Video)

[Farmer77]

Just now, Manfred von Dreidecker said:

Oh, blah blah blah. This is why we love the Donald.  Because he's funny!  

 

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Trump retweets GIF of golf ball hitting Hillary Clinton. Liberal left has collective meltdown (Video)

Yeah while I think its kinda embarrassing that the POTUS is retweeting crap like that the meltdown over this has been absurd. 

 

 

[Space Commander Travis]

come on, even the most pursed lipped and sanctimonious would have to smile at that surely. And the outrage from the Twitterati just make it one of the best comedy sketches of the year!

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The world is appalled by his childishness

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Republicans, be prepared to be voted out of office.
You cannot condone abuse and hate coming from the office of Presidency against women. 

 Kathy Griffin holding up Trump’s bloody severed head is ‘art’ according to these same liberals, but him posting this video is grounds for impeachment.  

 

[Farmer77]

8 minutes ago, Manfred von Dreidecker said:

 

 Kathy Griffin holding up Trump’s bloody severed head is ‘art’ according to these same liberals, but him posting this video is grounds for impeachment.  

 

If we're holding the POTUS and a gross comedian to the same standards our nation/world really is in deep trouble. 

[Space Commander Travis]

10 minutes ago, Manfred von Dreidecker said:

even the most pursed lipped and sanctimonious would have to smile at that surely

 

[+and-then]

On 9/17/2017 at 1:53 AM, Farmer77 said:

IDK man I dont see why a prosecutor and a witness having a relationship necessitates a recusal and from what ive been able to read the experts are about equally split on the issue. I would grasp at that straw if I had a horse in the gight as well. 

 

 Can you provide a link to the policy being broken? Further though the DOJ is under Trump's purview. It is Trump people in charge of the DOJ , why would Trump people hire a special prosecutor in violation of their own rules? 

I think you're really reaching here. 

 

 

 

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https://www.justice.gov/jmd/government-ethics-outline  Specifically: 

C. DOJ-Specific Conflict of Interest Regulation:   No DOJ employee may participate in a criminal investigation or prosecution if he has a personal or political relationship with any person or organization substantially involved in the conduct that is the subject of the investigation or prosecution, or who would be directly affected by the outcome.  28 CFR 45.2

Political relationship means a close identification with an elected official, candidate, political party or campaign organization arising from service as a principal advisor or official; personal relationship means a close and substantial connection of the type normally viewed as likely to induce partiality.

If this exact same situation existed and a Dem president was the target your hair would be on fire, dude, and you know it.

 

[Farmer77]

Just now, and then said:

https://www.justice.gov/jmd/government-ethics-outline  Specifically: 

C. DOJ-Specific Conflict of Interest Regulation:   No DOJ employee may participate in a criminal investigation or prosecution if he has a personal or political relationship with any person or organization substantially involved in the conduct that is the subject of the investigation or prosecution, or who would be directly affected by the outcome.  28 CFR 45.2

Political relationship means a close identification with an elected official, candidate, political party or campaign organization arising from service as a principal advisor or official; personal relationship means a close and substantial connection of the type normally viewed as likely to induce partiality.

If this exact same situation existed and a Dem president was the target your hair would be on fire, dude, and you know it.

 

Wait a minute man. What you quoted does not mention a witness to the investigation, just the subject of the investigation . In this case Trump is the subject of the investigation. 

I have to argue that you what you posted doesnt have anything to do with Mueller and Comey. .....Not that im not open to admitting it if you find it, but what you posted doesnt show that Mueller shouldnt be investigating the president. 

[bee]

7 hours ago, Paranormal Panther said:

Is that a parody? That's a rhetorical question because I know that he's likely a closet commie, and it's a big shame that so many Millennials support this pinko Santa Claus. We dodged *two* bullets named "Clinton" and "Sanders". He's the same guy who claims that there are no poor White Americans.

 

the guy who wrote it does political commentary and satire - 
I was just adding to the general (disingenuous) hysteria regarding Russia in this thread... for humorous purposes ...  

just had another look into the honeymoon thing and it seems that he did go to the Soviet Union shortly after he got married..
and it is used against him by his political opponents  -- 

https://www.rt.com/usa/320098-bernie-sanders-ussr-honeymoon/

“I’m tired of losing. Good God, look who we’re running against. The number two guy [running for the Democratic nomination] went to the Soviet Union on his honeymoon, and I don't think he ever came back," Graham said before the audience exploded into applause.

Graham was referring to a 1988 trip that Sanders, then the mayor of Burlington, Vermont, took to Yaroslavl in what was then the Soviet Union shortly after he married his wife Jane.

In a taped interview with the mayor of Yaroslavl, Sanders acknowledges that health care and housing appear to be “significantly better” in the US than in the socialist Soviet Union, according to National Review. “However,” he added, “the cost of both services is much, much higher in the United States.”

[bee]

51 minutes ago, Manfred von Dreidecker said:

Oh, blah blah blah. This is why we love the Donald.  Because he's funny!  

 

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Trump retweets GIF of golf ball hitting Hillary Clinton. Liberal left has collective meltdown (Video)

 

it IS a funny gif - and the reaction to it is sooo typical and vulture like **

as usual it's all about perception management with the media etc - they could so easily have said something (if it had been a democrat
politician tweeting a similar thing) --- ''''''Isn't it refreshing when a politician has a sense of humour - the public like to know
their leaders are human just like them'''''''

but oh no ---- because it's Trump his detractors loose their minds over it - like everything and anything to do with him -

** apologies to real vultures who live in the wild -

 

 

[Farmer77]

2 minutes ago, bee said:

as usual it's all about perception management with the media etc - they could so easily have said something (if it had been a democrat
politician tweeting a similar thing) --- ''''''Isn't it refreshing when a politician has a sense of humour - the public like to know
their leaders are human just like them'''''''

While I agree the response has been way overboard, I do have to say that no its not refreshing, its really quite embarrassing for our nation............again. 

Edited September 18, 2017 by Farmer77

[Space Commander Travis]

5 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

While I agree the response has been way overboard, I do have to say that no its not refreshing, its really quite embarrassing for our nation............again. 

 

56 minutes ago, Manfred von Dreidecker said:

come on, even the most pursed lipped and sanctimonious would have to smile at that surely.