stereologist Posted September 19, 2017 #126 Share Posted September 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, Aquila King said: I didn't say that they do. Can you quote me where I said such nonsense because I'm clearly at a loss here. Yeah, I agree with you whole-heartedly but that's irrelevant to what I was saying. I think we must have some sort of miscommunication somewhere because I never said anything to even suggest I don't agree with that. In fact that appears to me to be coming out of the blue. My faux pas. I was clarify my statements. You did a much better job of writing clearly and succinctly than I did. I was trying to fix my poor posts from before. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquila King Posted September 19, 2017 Author #127 Share Posted September 19, 2017 1 minute ago, stereologist said: My faux pas. I was clarify my statements. You did a much better job of writing clearly and succinctly than I did. I was trying to fix my poor posts from before. No worries mate, it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted September 19, 2017 #128 Share Posted September 19, 2017 33 minutes ago, stereologist said: Apparently you don't understand what is meant by random. Or it just might be the other way around, that you may not understand what is meant by intentional. Laws are written first, before the Big Bang. How else can the results of this cosmic explosion result in nature? Result in the scientist who then comes along to observe, describe and categorize what he discovers as law? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted September 19, 2017 #129 Share Posted September 19, 2017 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Will Due said: Or it just might be the other way around, that you may not understand what is meant by intentional. Laws are written first, before the Big Bang. How else can the results of this cosmic explosion result in nature? Result in the scientist who then comes along to observe, describe and categorize what he discovers as law? The law doesn't have to be written first. There is no need for that. It's not an explosion either. There is no intentional. https://www.space.com/25126-big-bang-theory.html Edited September 19, 2017 by stereologist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted September 19, 2017 #130 Share Posted September 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, stereologist said: The law doesn't have to be written first. Then why does a scientist observe the circumscribed behavior of all universe phenomenon as being controlled, or contained within certain boundaries? Or laws? If they weren't written first to control them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted September 19, 2017 #131 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Random behavior does not become observable to describe law. Law circumscribes how otherwise random behavior becomes controlled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted September 19, 2017 #132 Share Posted September 19, 2017 8 minutes ago, Will Due said: Then why does a scientist observe the circumscribed behavior of all universe phenomenon as being controlled, or contained within certain boundaries? Or laws? If they weren't written first to control them? Irrational. Completely irrational. Again! The existence of a law is the existence of a law. Your desire to make it written first is some weird irrational thinking on your part. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted September 19, 2017 #133 Share Posted September 19, 2017 1 minute ago, stereologist said: Irrational. Completely irrational. Again! The existence of a law is the existence of a law. Your desire to make it written first is some weird irrational thinking on your part. All laws are written first. Have you ever seen a law to write itself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted September 19, 2017 #134 Share Posted September 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, Will Due said: Random behavior does not become observable to describe law. Law circumscribes how otherwise random behavior becomes controlled. This just shows you do not understand the meaning of random. It also shows you do not understand physics. Both issues are already known. Conservation of charge does not involve random behavior. Scientific laws describe observations they do not describe "how otherwise random behavior becomes controlled". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted September 19, 2017 #135 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Just now, Will Due said: All laws are written first. Have you ever seen a law to write itself? Nonsensical ramblings on your part have nothing to do with the real world. Scientific laws are statements about observed phenomenon. There is no requirement to write a law first. That requirement is another example of your lack of understanding of the world. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted September 19, 2017 #136 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Just now, stereologist said: This just shows you do not understand the meaning of random. It also shows you do not understand physics. Both issues are already known. Conservation of charge does not involve random behavior. Scientific laws describe observations they do not describe "how otherwise random behavior becomes controlled". I guess you misunderstood. I'm not talking with you about scientific law. I'm talking about the law that governs reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted September 19, 2017 #137 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Law is life itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted September 19, 2017 #138 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Just now, Will Due said: I guess you misunderstood. I'm not talking with you about scientific law. I'm talking about the law that governs reality. Again you show your lack of basic understandings. Your wish that laws are written first is without merit or reason. It is just your personal fantasy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted September 19, 2017 #139 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Just now, Will Due said: Law is life itself. More ramblings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted September 19, 2017 #140 Share Posted September 19, 2017 And the Giver of Life writes the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted September 19, 2017 #141 Share Posted September 19, 2017 It's by the decree of law that we have life. Limited as it is. Limitless as it can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted September 19, 2017 #142 Share Posted September 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Will Due said: And the Giver of Life writes the law. Are you just going to ramble on with this malarkey or do you have anything to add about the topic? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted September 19, 2017 #143 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Just now, Will Due said: It's by the decree of law that we have life. Limited as it is. Limitless as it can be. More ramblings. Guess you actually have nothing to add to the topic at hand. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted September 19, 2017 #144 Share Posted September 19, 2017 That's why aliens (humans) are humanoid. Because it's the LAW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badeskov Posted September 19, 2017 #145 Share Posted September 19, 2017 16 minutes ago, Will Due said: That's why aliens (humans) are humanoid. Because it's the LAW! What law?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted September 19, 2017 #146 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Aliens are humanoid because it's always been the nature of man to anthropomorphize the unknown and create Gods in his own image. Even the most bizarre deities are humans anointed with the weird, or the strange, beatific as are winged angels and horrible as the Aztec Tlaloc. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted September 19, 2017 #147 Share Posted September 19, 2017 8 hours ago, Will Due said: That's why aliens (humans) are humanoid. Because it's the LAW! More ramblings. I believe this is one of those magical incantation beliefs along the lines of let there be humanoids and it was good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted September 19, 2017 #148 Share Posted September 19, 2017 18 minutes ago, stereologist said: More ramblings. I believe this is one of those magical incantation beliefs along the lines of let there be humanoids and it was good. Look, I'm tolerating your opinions and "ramblings" about the universe. Not to be insulting towards you, but to me, it's the height of irrationality to believe that creation doesn't have a Creator. So right back at ya bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted September 19, 2017 #149 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Just now, Will Due said: Look, I'm tolerating your opinions and "ramblings" about the universe. Not to be insulting towards you, but to me, it's the height of irrationality to believe that creation doesn't have a Creator. So right back at ya bro. So all of those ramblings were all about you saying that aliens were humanoids because a creator did it. Why the ramblings and not say that in the first place? You stated there are laws governing reality. That's just made up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted September 19, 2017 #150 Share Posted September 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, stereologist said: there are laws governing reality. That's just made up. Lol. Sorry for laughing. And I'm irrational? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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