trevor borocz johnson Posted September 24, 2017 #1 Share Posted September 24, 2017 http://www.sciencealert.com/sleep-deprivation-is-surprisingly-effective-as-an-antidepressant think this is true. Who doesn't want a sleep deprivation vacation from the norm. Stay up all night and hallucinate the next day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted September 24, 2017 #2 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Yeah, that just sounds like it would add more problems. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan max2 Posted September 24, 2017 #3 Share Posted September 24, 2017 I mean it's like getting drunk lol. Short term relief, long term problems 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted September 24, 2017 #4 Share Posted September 24, 2017 I have always noticed, the more I sleep, the less happy I am on average. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted September 24, 2017 #5 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Just now, Will Due said: I have always noticed, the more I sleep, the less happy I am on average. Well, people with depression often have that thing where they just can't get themselves out of bed. I guess just forcing yourself out might be a good thing. I can't imagine not getting enough sleep would be good, though. Maybe just finding the right balance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquila King Posted September 24, 2017 #6 Share Posted September 24, 2017 This is like an argument for fasting. The only benefit I see is potentially greater levels of self-control. Although there are far healthier alternatives to achieving this, so this kind of thing is unnecessary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted September 24, 2017 #7 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Links between sleep and depression are strong. About three quarters of depressed patients have insomnia symptoms, and hypersomnia is present in about 40% of young depressed adults and 10% of older patients, with a preponderance in females. The symptoms cause huge distress, have a major impact on quality of life, and are a strong risk factor for suicide. As well as the subjective experience of sleep symptoms, there are well-documented changes in objective sleep architecture in depression. Mechanisms of sleep regulation and how they might be disturbed in depression are discussed. The sleep symptoms are often unresolved by treatment, and confer a greater risk of relapse and recurrence. Epidemiological studies have pointed out that insomnia in nondepressed subjects is a risk factor for later development of depression. There is therefore a need for more successful management of sleep disturbance in depression, in order to improve quality of life in these patients and reduce an important factor in depressive relapse and recurrence. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3181883/ Insomnia is very common among depressed patients. Evidence suggests that people with insomnia have a ten-fold risk ofdeveloping depression compared with those who sleep well. Depressed individuals may suffer from a range of insomnia symptoms, including difficulty falling asleep (sleep onset insomnia), difficulty staying asleep (sleep maintenance insomnia), unrefreshing sleep, and daytime sleepiness. However, research suggests that the risk of developing depression is highest among people with both sleep onset and sleep maintenance insomnia. https://sleepfoundation.org/sleep-disorders-problems/depression-and-sleep The quality of your sleep is closely related to how you think, how you act, and how you feel. It is obvious that you will be more alert and well rested when you get the sleep that you need. But sleep does much more than this. It also helps you think more clearly, have more energy, and feel better about life. When you don't sleep well, all of the benefits of sleep begin to come up missing in your life. More than just feeling tired, you can become frustrated, unmotivated, and even have severe mood swings. The link between your mood and your sleep will greatly affect the overall quality of your life. http://sleepcenter.ucla.edu/depression Yeah I think I'm going to stick with 7-8 hours a night with naps on the weekend, plus plenty of water, fresh fruit, and time outside. And include some kind of exercise. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'mConvinced Posted September 25, 2017 #8 Share Posted September 25, 2017 This has to be the worst advice I've seen on these forums. Isn't this akin to dropping something on your left foot to stop the pain in your right? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Smoke aLot Posted September 25, 2017 #9 Share Posted September 25, 2017 If being exhausted both physically and mentally is good thing to fight depression then sure, i could agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted September 25, 2017 #10 Share Posted September 25, 2017 19 minutes ago, I'mConvinced said: This has to be the worst advice I've seen on these forums. Isn't this akin to dropping something on your left foot to stop the pain in your right? If you stub your toe, just shoot yourself in the head. You'll forget about the toe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trihalo42 Posted September 25, 2017 #11 Share Posted September 25, 2017 This is fascinating. To oversimplify, sleep deprivation can lead to hallucinations, and elevated neurotransmitters can lead to schizophrenia and hallucinations, while depressives have lower levels of neurotransmitters. Never made that connection before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted September 26, 2017 #12 Share Posted September 26, 2017 On 9/24/2017 at 10:40 AM, ChaosRose said: Well, people with depression often have that thing where they just can't get themselves out of bed. I guess just forcing yourself out might be a good thing. I can't imagine not getting enough sleep would be good, though. Maybe just finding the right balance. The one thing I found that definitely raised my mood was regularly exercising. It was as simple as forcing myself to get outdoors and walk, even for a short distance EVERY DAY. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flog Posted September 27, 2017 #13 Share Posted September 27, 2017 (edited) I remember reading about this a few years ago and as i remember it had something to do with "resetting" the circadian rhythm. Persons that suffer from depression often have problems sleeping and/or a very poor quality of sleep. Insomnia is common. This only adds to the depression because you often lie awake with depressive thoughts and blaming yourself. Resetting the circadian rhythm, i.e. a good sleep-wake cycle, can have a positive effect on the depression. It has to be done under strictly controlled supervision though and it is not reccomended to do at home. Edited September 27, 2017 by Flog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julio Posted September 27, 2017 #14 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Hmm I've thought about that... sometimes I feel I should sleep less to struggle less... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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