Las Vegas Strip Shooting

[Kurzweil]

2 minutes ago, pallidin said:

That's exactly what I was sensing from you !  You do not believe in either media or government reports at all (that they are just conjecture, in your words)

So, you form opinions without taking the time to gather established, accepted facts, and attack those that do.

Wow. That's exactly the mindset of a conspiracy theorist.

Boom Nailed it.

[Dejarma]

8 minutes ago, Kurzweil said:

No, not trying to be funny just trying to gauge your character. You show yours. Excessive question marks with  explosive sarcasm tells me you are not to be taken seriously in this discussion. Sorry for being rude but I'll bypass your further posts.

Hold up a minute! How the hell can you even consider the possibility that I'm defending this guy after what I've said in here?

And you're wondering why I sound a bit p***ed off with what you said? Really?

So why did you feel a need to ask me this after reading my posts? Don't bypass= Explain....................

[Dejarma]

8 minutes ago, pallidin said:

That's exactly what I was sensing from you !  You do not believe in either media or government reports at all (that they are just conjecture, in your words)

So, you form opinions without taking the time to gather established, accepted facts, and attack those that do.

Wow. That's exactly the mindset of a conspiracy theorist.

oh ok then

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

15 minutes ago, Dejarma said:

yes

Adso is that you?

[pallidin]

1 minute ago, Dejarma said:

oh ok then

Feel free to offer your contribution to this thread... it would be welcome...and we have yet to hear it.

[Dejarma]

1 minute ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

Adso is that you?

yep

[Kurzweil]

3 minutes ago, Dejarma said:

Hold up a minute! How the hell can you even consider the possibility that I'm defending this guy after what I've said in here?

And you're wondering why I sound a bit p***ed off with what you said? Really?

So why did you feel a need to ask me this after reading my posts? Don't bypass= Explain....................

I didn't imply I just asked. You took it to a whole new level. Chill.

I'm busy reading new posts elsewhere. I'll get get to rereading yours and explain my thoughts on those.

[Dejarma]

2 minutes ago, Kurzweil said:

I didn't imply I just asked.

you haven't explained why you felt a need to ask!

[Michelle]

Apparently this discussion was too amicable for the newcomer.

[Kismit]

2 hours ago, Dejarma said:

yes of course it is... kinda strange that (as far as i know) his organic mental illness wasn't noticed by friends & family

 

2 hours ago, Will Due said:

He was sane and normal minded. 

But evil.

 

 

Mental stability is not a guarantee. Even the smartest, most normal person can mentally lose the plot. 

Many normal people have times in their lives when they become obsessive, or depressed, or anxious. Most of which are stress related illness'. 

The longer this goes on the more I feel Paddock was more in debt than out of it. Perhaps even owing loan sharks.

[Dejarma]

8 minutes ago, Kismit said:

Mental stability is not a guarantee. Even the smartest, most normal person can mentally lose the plot. 

Yep, absolutely... I'm not sure of the percentage but I remember it at around 30-40% of psychiatrists lost the plot early on in life, & that's why they took an interest in the subject & became psychiatrists themselves.

Edited October 8, 2017 by Dejarma

[Kurzweil]

2 hours ago, Dejarma said:

yes of course it is... kinda strange that (as far as i know) his organic mental illness wasn't noticed by friends & family

Not sure how do multiple quotes on a phone but I'll start here.

This.

The wording. Can't tell if it's sarcasm but surely it must be. If it's not then I jumped to the conclusion you had some support for the guy. Once again if it's not then I'm wrong. Either convey your message the way you mean it or keep sarcasm out of horrific atrocities like this.

I'll get around to the rest of the garbage you posted when I'm done reading.

[Michelle]

15 minutes ago, Kismit said:

The longer this goes on the more I feel Paddock was more in debt than out of it. Perhaps even owing loan sharks.

I know how quickly people can lose money gambling. Other than casinos, he never flaunted his money. Otherwise he seemed rather thrifty, even buying his clothes at Walmart. He made a huge amount of money in real estate, living in an average apartment building he owned. His current home wasn't opulent.  At this point, he still seems to be incredibly well off though.

I neglected to post a link to the article that traced a lot of his finances and I don't know where I read it. If I run across it again tomorrow I'll post it. I think it was AU news. My eyes are getting tired tonight and I'm going to have to stop reading.

Edited October 8, 2017 by Michelle

[pallidin]

15 minutes ago, Kismit said:

 

Mental stability is not a guarantee. Even the smartest, most normal person can mentally lose the plot. 

Many normal people have times in their lives when they become obsessive, or depressed, or anxious. Most of which are stress related illness'. 

The longer this goes on the more I feel Paddock was more in debt than out of it. Perhaps even owing loan sharks.

I've heard of people in serious debt either committing suicide or killing those he perceived put him into debt, and possibly a few bystanders.

But I've never heard of a severe debtor committing unprecedented major, mass murder exclusively on 100% complete innocents.

Edited October 8, 2017 by pallidin

[pallidin]

32 minutes ago, pallidin said:

Feel free to offer your contribution to this thread... it would be welcome...and we have yet to hear it.

docyabut2... my statement was for Dejarma, not you. You've already contributed multiple times.

[Kismit]

Posters are reminded not to post or post links to graphic images.

[pallidin]

1 minute ago, Michelle said:

I have no doubt that link will be removed. Nobody ever does that with a rifle. It's sort of a no brainer.

Your right. Link is rather gross.

[pallidin]

Just now, Kismit said:

Posters are reminded not to post or post links to graphic images.

Sorry

[kartikg]

39 minutes ago, Kismit said:

 

The longer this goes on the more I feel Paddock was more in debt than out of it. Perhaps even owing loan sharks.

This is what actually bothers me, why don't these shooters kill bad people? he could have easily tried killing the loan sharks. 

This is what actually bothers me, why don't these shooters kill bad people? he could have easily tried killing the loan sharks

[pallidin]

An interesting theory into the minds of mass murderers...

http://ideas.time.com/2013/11/26/there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-motive-for-mass-killings/

When we search for a “motive,” we’re looking for things like self-defense, revenge, jealousy, or personal dispute. There are also motives in which the victim may be somewhat more arbitrary, such as robbery, sexual assault, or sadistic pleasure. But there is no evidence that any of these motives apply to the Newtown shooting, as there almost never is for mass shootings—which is why we speak of them as “senseless.”

Edited October 10, 2017 by Saru
Trimmed for length

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

2 hours ago, Dejarma said:

Oh yeah, great news-- I loved it when I heard someone had just murdered 58 people & wounded many others.. Fantastic, wonderful... It's made me want to buy loads of guns!! But I can't because I'm in England! What a bummer...

Are you serious or just trying to be funny??????????????

The Onion has an article to the tune of “there’s nothing that can be done to stop regular mass shootings, says only country in world that has regular mass shootings”.

[docyabut2]

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/10/06/new-evidence-may-suggest-las-vegas-shooter-stephen-paddock-was-not-alone-in-hotel-room/23235474/

[docyabut2]

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/10/06/new-evidence-may-suggest-las-vegas-shooter-stephen-paddock-was-not-alone-in-hotel-room/23235474/

They said there was evidence,  maybe it was a terrorist that killed all the people and killed Paddock. Perhaps why he was threaten to set this all up.  Maybe why Danley  said he was moaning and screaming  in his dreams and sent her away.

[pallidin]

16 minutes ago, docyabut2 said:

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/10/06/new-evidence-may-suggest-las-vegas-shooter-stephen-paddock-was-not-alone-in-hotel-room/23235474/

They said there was evidence,  maybe it was a terrorist that killed all the people and killed Paddock. Perhaps why he was threaten to set this all up.  Maybe why Danley  said he was moaning and screaming  in his dreams and sent her away.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-vegas-shooting/amp/police-confident-no-one-else-shooters-room-las-vegas-attack-n808431

Earlier, senior law enforcement sources said investigators were puzzled by a charger that did not appear to match any of Paddock’s cellphones. Police have now been able to match all of the cell phone chargers found in the room with multiple cell phones that Paddock had with him.

[Dark_Grey]

24 minutes ago, pallidin said:

Mystery woman seen with Las Vegas shooter has finally been identified — it adds another twist

 

Its starting to seem like Paddock intended to die in that room. Ordering a prostitute, sending 100g's to his gf...he was ready for his last night. 

I still wonder about other people being involved in this plot. We will see what surfaces over the next few weeks, hopefully something that sheds light on the "doomsayers" in the crowd before the shooting