Las Vegas Strip Shooting

[pallidin]

Manila, Philippines (CNN) The girlfriend of the Las Vegas shooter has returned to the United States, a law enforcement source told CNN.

Marilou Danley flew from the Philippines and landed at Los Angeles International Airport on Tuesday evening. She is being accompanied by the FBI in Los Angeles, where Las Vegas police plan to question her, the source said.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/04/us/marilou-danley-vegas-shooting-paddock/index.html

[Kismit]

26 minutes ago, pallidin said:

Speaking to the WSJ, a law enforcement source said that they found at least one fully automatic rifle among the batch, which included AR-15-style rifles and AK-47-style rifles.  As we reported this morning, it also later emerged that two other semi-auto guns had been legally modified with bump-stocks that allow them to function like fully automatic rifles, pumping out 400-800 bullets a minute.

Among the weapons found in the room were four Daniel Defense DDM4 rifles, three FN-15s and other rifles made by Sig Sauer. A handgun was also found. 

Four DDM4 rifles were among the 23 weapons found in Paddock's hotel room.

Three FN-15 rifles, as well as guns made by Sig Sauer, were found in his arsenal.

A Colt AR-15 was also found in the room

Stephen Paddock's room was packed with 23 guns and lots of ammo

Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo said on Monday it wasn't clear whether the full-auto gun was modified, or if it was originally made that way. He also said that the ammunition ranged in size from .308, usually used in hunting rifles, to .223, associated with AR-15s and other assault rifles - the latter being military-grade, the New York Daily News reported.

Are those guns really legal in America?

I live in a hunting communitee, I support our annual muster, I support hunting predatory introduced species, I strongly supported a friend who's 3 year old daughter was photographed cardying out the weiner sized pig she proudly hunted herself with Dad.

I can not fathom a time or a need for this kind of gun.

[acidhead]

27 minutes ago, Kismit said:

Are those guns really legal in America?

I live in a hunting communitee, I support our annual muster, I support hunting predatory introduced species, I strongly supported a friend who's 3 year old daughter was photographed cardying out the weiner sized pig she proudly hunted herself with Dad.

I can not fathom a time or a need for this kind of gun.

An individual can legally purchase semi autos in Canada.  Believe it or not but people like to own these types of guns for recreactionàl use.  

Just curious... if you cannot in your words fathom who needs this kind of gun...... who needs it? Because to ban it from the public its going to require the gov to need it to take it away from the public... YOU know.. the gov nobody trusts.

[Kismit]

14 minutes ago, acidhead said:

An individual can legally purchase semi autos in Canada.  Believe it or not but people like to own these types of guns for recreactionàl use.  

Just curious... if you cannot in your words fathom who needs this kind of gun...... who needs it? Because to ban it from the public its going to require the gov to need it to take it away from the public... YOU know.. the gov nobody trusts.

I'm not sure trust is the issue. Faith appears to be the issue, everyone seems to have lost Faith in the Government, nobody knows who to Trust, and no one seems capable of leading the Nation as a Whole. Neither government party seems to be in it for American's, some claim to be, but as yet there appears to be nobody the magority can have absolute Faith in.

[Kismit]

29 minutes ago, acidhead said:

An individual can legally purchase semi autos in Canada.  Believe it or not but people like to own these types of guns for recreactionàl use.  

Just curious... if you cannot in your words fathom who needs this kind of gun...... who needs it? Because to ban it from the public its going to require the gov to need it to take it away from the public... YOU know.. the gov nobody trusts.

I'm sorry to quote you again Acidhead but  recreational use? If not hunting, What recreation? 

[preacherman76]

1 minute ago, Kismit said:

I'm sorry to quote you again Acidhead but  recreational use? What recreation? 

Target practice. For example e and my son will take the 22 rifles out to the woods and set up 10 targets each. Usually some old water bottles, and paper targets.

We set up and when I say go, we both begin to fire. Who ever hits more of their targets is the winner. It's fun.

Almost every gun I have ever owned has been semi auto. 

Thank God I've never had to experience it, but in a home break in semi auto is absolutely necessary. 

 

[acidhead]

My personal theory based on a couple days of injesting all this is the shooter has had a troubled past beginnning with being the eldest of four in a broken family... dad was a con artist lifer who made an impact on his life.  The shooter never had children.  He looked up to his ďad but never really did. He struggled to find a love of his life because he didnt develop the skills to do so.  He was 64 involved with an asian woman... but his alcoholism wrecked that relationship like many before.  Being she was asian from a spanish colonized country he sympathized with her and the struggles of individuals south of the USA.   He felt spent.  A life chasing his dad's lifestyle... gambling and promiscuity.  ... and it caught up to him... she left him. So he wired her 100 000 k .... set up a final ultimate finale.. The world hates white influential wealthy or generous men. ... they are scum... the worlds problem...  alcohol depression sets in... he plans... calculates his exit and executes.  

[Kismit]

9 minutes ago, preacherman76 said:

Target practice. For example e and my son will take the 22 rifles out to the woods and set up 10 targets each. Usually some old water bottles, and paper targets.

We set up and when I say go, we both begin to fire. Who ever hits more of their targets is the winner. It's fun.

Almost every gun I have ever owned has been semi auto. 

Thank God I've never had to experience it, but in a home break in semi auto is absolutely necessary. 

 

Target practice is wonderful therapy. No problem what so ever with that my hubby and I love the driving range for that very reason. Just you, the target, one shot, and skill. 

I still don't know why you would need even a semi-auto when trully more skill is required with a single shot, like darts.

as far as home defence is concerned, if you have even a small gun, you are protected. Semi auto is not really necisary.

I have a cigarette lighter that if I pointed at you, you would certainly rethink what you where up to.

[preacherman76]

4 minutes ago, Kismit said:

Target practice is wonderful therapy. No problem what so ever with that my hubby and I love the driving range for that very reason. Just you, the target, one shot, and skill. 

I still don't know why you would need even a semi-auto when trully more skill is required with a single shot, like darts.

as far as home defence is concerned, if you have even a small gun, you are protected. Semi auto is not really necisary.

I have a cigarette lighter that if I pointed at you, you would certainly rethink what you where up to.

Well you answered your own question really. You are right, some folks just don't have the skill, especially under pressure, like in a home invasion 

[acidhead]

2 minutes ago, Kismit said:

Target practice is wonderful therapy. No problem what so ever with that my hubby and I love the driving range for that very reason. Just you, the target, one shot, and skill. 

I still don't know why you would need even a semi-auto when trully more skill is required with a single shot, like darts.

I live in Canada sò the best analogy for my ice hockey friends would be its the difference between practicing a wrist shot and a slap shot.

Theres more power behind a slapper but the accuracy from a great wrister is greater.

[Kismit]

2 minutes ago, preacherman76 said:

Well you answered your own question really. You are right, some folks just don't have the skill, especially under pressure, like in a home invasion 

You dont have to shoot! You actually should not shoot. Even pointing a pretend gun should be your absolute last resort.

And remember my question was about recreation. Shooting people is not recreation.

[preacherman76]

Imagine a world where you home invader knows you only have one shot? After that you are screwed. 

I have to leave my wife and sons home by themselves overnight from time to time. I feel a lot better knowing my wife has 10 shots instead of one.

[Kismit]

2 minutes ago, acidhead said:

I live in Canada sò the best analogy for my ice hockey friends would be its the difference between practicing a wrist shot and a slap shot.

Theres more power behind a slapper but the accuracy from a great wrister is greater.

Then a single shot shot gun would be more apropriate than a semi auto-matic. That's what you use if your aim isn't too fab.

[Kismit]

3 minutes ago, preacherman76 said:

Imagine a world where you home invader knows you only have one shot? After that you are screwed. 

I have to leave my wife and sons home by themselves overnight from time to time. I feel a lot better knowing my wife has 10 shots instead of one.

I would feel pretty safe with a double barrel shot gun. If I don't get them with the first fire of shots, the spread will sure as hell get them while they are running.

[acidhead]

1 minute ago, Kismit said:

Then a single shot shot gun would be more apropriate than a semi auto-matic. That's what you use if your aim isn't too fab.

It depends on the situation.

[preacherman76]

6 minutes ago, Kismit said:

You dont have to shoot! You actually should not shoot. Even pointing a pretend gun should be your absolute last resort.

Hu? What if you have some drugged out lunitic breaking down your door? What if there are 3 of them?To me that opinion is out right unrealistic. 

I saw a video not long ago where 3 guys were breaking into this house. A lady was behind the door yelling out that she had a gun. They laughed at her and said she didn't. Till she proved them wrong. 

I don't know what world you are living in, but to think a home owner should never fire a shot is uniformed at best 

Edited October 4, 2017 by preacherman76

[Timothy]

In America it is fun and acceptable to unload semi/auto clips into whatever you want for recreation. YouTube has plenty of videos of it. 

I really wouldn't know where to start if I wanted to get an assault weapon in Australia. I’d have to Google it. 

Edited October 4, 2017 by Timonthy
Typo.

[Timothy]

2 minutes ago, preacherman76 said:

Hu? What if you have some drugged out lunitic breaking down your door? What if there are 3 of them?To me that opinion is out right unrealistic. 

I saw a video not long ago where 3 guys were breaking into this house. A lady was behind the door yelling out that she had a gun. They laughed at her and said she didn't. Till she proved them wrong. 

I don't know what world you are living in, but to think a home owner should never fire a shot is uniformed at best 

They’re all after you, right?

[preacherman76]

2 minutes ago, Kismit said:

I would feel pretty safe with a double barrel shot gun. If I don't get them with the first fire of shots, the spread will sure as hell get them while they are running.

Look up YouTube videos of women firing shot guns. They are often to much gun for women who normally don't shoot them. 

If they did though, I'll take a pump shotgun over a double barrel any day. 

[preacherman76]

1 minute ago, Timonthy said:

In America it is fun and acceptable to unload semi/auto clips into whatever you want for recreation. YouTube has plenty of videos of it. 

I really wouldn't know where to start if I wanted to get and assault weapon in Australia. I’d have to Google it. 

I wouldn't know where to get a assault weapon in America either. Semi auto does not equal assault weapon 

[preacherman76]

2 minutes ago, Timonthy said:

They’re all after you, right?

I mm, what?

[Timothy]

Just now, preacherman76 said:

I wouldn't know where to get a assault weapon in America either. Semi auto does not equal assault weapon 

The type of weapon equals assault. Semi or full auto doesn’t define it. 

[Kismit]

7 minutes ago, preacherman76 said:

Hu? What if you have some drugged out lunitic breaking down your door? What if there are 3 of them?To me that opinion is out right unrealistic. 

I saw a not long ago where 3 guys were breaking into this house. A lady was behind the door yelling out that she had a gun. They laughed at her and said she didn't. Till she proved them wrong. 

I don't know what world you are living in, but to think a home owner should never fire a shot is uniformed at best 

This is the extreme. There is more than just a gun for defence. Again, this is the extreme. Two points

1) My original question was what recreational activity requires a semi-automatic gun

2.) How much more Police time could be put into crime prevention that is currently being put into gun crimes like mass shootings?

crime prevention =less drug crazed robbers

[preacherman76]

Just now, Timonthy said:

The type of weapon equals assault. Semi or full auto doesn’t define it. 

Technically speaking, you have no idea what you are talking about. 

[acidhead]

3 minutes ago, Kismit said:

This is the extreme. There is more than just a gun for defence. Again, this is the extreme. Two points

1) My original question was what recreational activity requires a gun

2.) How much more Police time could be put into crime prevention that is currently being put into gun crimes like mass shootings?

Recreation is recreation.  The facts are even though gun sales have gone up deaths from gun related crimes has been going down.  

Edited October 4, 2017 by acidhead