pallidin Posted October 7, 2017 #876 Share Posted October 7, 2017 7 minutes ago, and then said: I'm so glad that he DID scope out other venues. It tends to mitigate against the idea that he was just a country music/anti-conservative type. As insane as his actions were, it might have been far worse. I agree. 3 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted October 7, 2017 #877 Share Posted October 7, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, pallidin said: I agree. It's pretty clear he just wanted to mow down as many people as possible, no matter their ideology. I just can't understand why anyone would do that. I just keep thinking to myself...why? And then I tear up again. Edited October 7, 2017 by ChaosRose 4 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted October 7, 2017 #878 Share Posted October 7, 2017 (edited) 29 minutes ago, ChaosRose said: It's pretty clear he just wanted to mow down as many people as possible, no matter their ideology. I just can't understand why anyone would do that. I just keep thinking to myself...why? Right. The few clues we have include the apparent fact that he was seeking to kill mass amounts of gathered innocent peoples regardless of why or where they were gathered. Edited October 7, 2017 by pallidin 3 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted October 7, 2017 #879 Share Posted October 7, 2017 (edited) 32 minutes ago, ChaosRose said: I just can't understand why anyone would do that. I just keep thinking to myself...why? Edited October 7, 2017 by pallidin 2 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranormal Panther Posted October 7, 2017 #880 Share Posted October 7, 2017 23 hours ago, and then said: I get the impression that those who are so totally committed to removing guns from Americans, wouldn't be much concerned if we DID wind up in camps. It's why I don't take them very seriously. They truly can't seem to grasp the reality that history has displayed over and over. Government ALWAYS eventually moves toward Tyranny, ALWAYS. I think we are clearly seeing that move in America today and Trump isn't the catalyst, he's the solution. Hitler and Stalin disarmed the people who lived under their tyrannical regimes. Mao was a big fan of gun control. The KKK were not big supporters of the NRA. Aware people notice the pattern. 3 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranormal Panther Posted October 7, 2017 #881 Share Posted October 7, 2017 23 hours ago, F3SS said: I took one of my friends Colonopin (sp?) once, it was about the size of a grain of white rice. It knocked me out almost immediately for nearly 24 hours with a few crazy details in between I’d rather not share. OTOH my friend eats them like candy as he’s been prescribed them for years. After that experience I told him he must really be crazy if those things keep him straight. I can imagine how being misprescribed pills can lead to horrific side effects and when diagnosing someone based on educated guesses and opinions I’m sure it happens all the time. Hey don’t get the wrong idea about me. I hate pills and never tried more than a couple things but for whatever stupid reason I did that night. It could be that the killer went crazy after he took Valium, especially if he combined it with an alcoholic drink. That may or may not be the case, but your experience shows that varied drugs affect varied people in varied ways. Perhaps he took a dangerously high dosage of it. Your guess is as good as mine. 2 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranormal Panther Posted October 7, 2017 #882 Share Posted October 7, 2017 20 hours ago, F3SS said: I just turned on Bill Maher and his guest just said in the context of trashing the 2nd “it is harder to buy cough medicine than it is to buy an ak47” to claps and cheers from Maher and an equally un-knowledgeable audience. They keep wanting to “have this conversation” but they never know what the hell theyre talking about. They prefer lectures and sermons over conversations. They want monologues, not dialogues. Why state facts when propaganda will do? Remember that progressives are the new champions of censorship. 4 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted October 7, 2017 #883 Share Posted October 7, 2017 On 10/6/2017 at 4:37 PM, and then said: I get the impression that those who are so totally committed to removing guns from Americans, wouldn't be much concerned if we DID wind up in camps. It's why I don't take them very seriously. They truly can't seem to grasp the reality that history has displayed over and over. Government ALWAYS eventually moves toward Tyranny, ALWAYS. I think we are clearly seeing that move in America today and Trump isn't the catalyst, he's the solution. Well, we can agree to disagree on that one. I just wish he'd do more to unite the country, instead of always trying to divide it even more. Ordinary folks, we can agree on a lot, and I don't think most politicians have our best interests at heart. 5 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted October 8, 2017 #884 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Las Vegas shooter's note contained calculations for targeting crowd, source says A handwritten note in the hotel room of Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock contained calculations pertaining to the distance and trajectory from his window on the 32nd floor to the festival crowd below, according to a law enforcement source with knowledge of the investigation. CNN has previously reported that a note containing only numbers was found in the room. Those numbers were characterized as being significant to the gunman. http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/07/us/las-vegas-shooting-investigation/index.html?adkey=bn 7 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted October 8, 2017 #885 Share Posted October 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Paranormal Panther said: Hitler and Stalin disarmed the people who lived under their tyrannical regimes. Mao was a big fan of gun control. The KKK were not big supporters of the NRA. Aware people notice the pattern. Not so true about the KKK. Those guys and Aryan Nations are linked with the Patriot movement and they're all big on guns. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted October 8, 2017 #886 Share Posted October 8, 2017 17 minutes ago, Michelle said: Las Vegas shooter's note contained calculations for targeting crowd, source says A handwritten note in the hotel room of Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock contained calculations pertaining to the distance and trajectory from his window on the 32nd floor to the festival crowd below, according to a law enforcement source with knowledge of the investigation. CNN has previously reported that a note containing only numbers was found in the room. Those numbers were characterized as being significant to the gunman. http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/07/us/las-vegas-shooting-investigation/index.html?adkey=bn Great find, Michelle ! 2 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted October 8, 2017 #887 Share Posted October 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, pallidin said: Great find, Michelle ! Thank you. I can't help trying to fit the pieces of this puzzle together. I hope they do freeze his assets. I'd like to see a breakdown of them. 2 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thanato Posted October 8, 2017 #888 Share Posted October 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Paranormal Panther said: Hitler and Stalin disarmed the people who lived under their tyrannical regimes. Mao was a big fan of gun control. The KKK were not big supporters of the NRA. Aware people notice the pattern. There is a difference between gun control and a gun ban. 4 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted October 8, 2017 #889 Share Posted October 8, 2017 11 minutes ago, Michelle said: Thank you. I can't help trying to fit the pieces of this puzzle together. I hope they do freeze his assets. I'd like to see a breakdown of them. Yeah. Me too. I know many of us enjoy picking this apart and putting things together. Also, my understanding is that a request to seize assets has been submitted to the Court. 3 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted October 8, 2017 #890 Share Posted October 8, 2017 http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/07/us/las-vegas-shooting-investigation/index.html 4 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted October 8, 2017 #891 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Current GoFundMe total as of 10-7-2017 for the victims and victim families. https://www.gofundme.com/dr2ks2-las-vegas-victims-fund Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted October 8, 2017 #892 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Members of the law enforcement team who were the first to enter Stephen Paddock's hotel room after he opened fire on a crowd in Las Vegas. Top row, from left to right: Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department Detectives Casey Clarkson and Matthew Donaldson. Bottom row, left to right: Dave Newton from the Las Vegas Police Department's K-9 unit and Sgt. Joshua Bitkso. CBS NEWS / "60 MINUTES" 5 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kismit Posted October 8, 2017 #893 Share Posted October 8, 2017 (IP: Staff) · Brave men 5 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kismit Posted October 8, 2017 #894 Share Posted October 8, 2017 (IP: Staff) · 2 hours ago, Michelle said: Las Vegas shooter's note contained calculations for targeting crowd, source says A handwritten note in the hotel room of Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock contained calculations pertaining to the distance and trajectory from his window on the 32nd floor to the festival crowd below, according to a law enforcement source with knowledge of the investigation. CNN has previously reported that a note containing only numbers was found in the room. Those numbers were characterized as being significant to the gunman. http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/07/us/las-vegas-shooting-investigation/index.html?adkey=bn That was fairly close to my guess. 3 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted October 8, 2017 #895 Share Posted October 8, 2017 6 minutes ago, Kismit said: That was fairly close to my guess. That's the way I was leaning too. 2 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F3SS Posted October 8, 2017 #896 Share Posted October 8, 2017 The 500 injured people, were they ever clear on how many were shot and how many were hurt in other ways like stampeded maybe? And are there any in critical condition still fighting? Just wondering. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted October 8, 2017 #897 Share Posted October 8, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, F3SS said: The 500 injured people, were they ever clear on how many were shot and how many were hurt in other ways like stampeded maybe? And are there any in critical condition still fighting? Just wondering. I read 37 are still in critical condition. Edit: A different source said 58 I think. Edited October 8, 2017 by Michelle 2 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted October 8, 2017 #898 Share Posted October 8, 2017 (edited) To clarify the timeline of police response to Paddocks hotel room... https://www.cbsnews.com/news/las-vegas-shooting-timeline-stephen-paddock-mandalay-bay/ The first officers arrived on the 31st floor -- one floor below where Paddock was firing -- at 10:12 p.m. Officers arrived at the 32nd floor at 10:17 p.m. Lombardo said it was "phenomenal" they reached the 32nd floor within 12 minutes of when shots rang out. Edited October 10, 2017 by Saru Trimmed for length 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranormal Panther Posted October 8, 2017 #899 Share Posted October 8, 2017 2 hours ago, ChaosRose said: Not so true about the KKK. Those guys and Aryan Nations are linked with the Patriot movement and they're all big on guns. That was a reference to the time that the NRA trained Black citizens who were terrorized by the KKK. And Then probably got the reference. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranormal Panther Posted October 8, 2017 #900 Share Posted October 8, 2017 2 hours ago, Thanato said: There is a difference between gun control and a gun ban. I know. I hope that our "representatives" remember that. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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