Kurzweil Posted October 8, 2017 #951 Share Posted October 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, pallidin said: That's exactly what I was sensing from you ! You do not believe in either media or government reports at all (that they are just conjecture, in your words) So, you form opinions without taking the time to gather established, accepted facts, and attack those that do. Wow. That's exactly the mindset of a conspiracy theorist. Boom Nailed it. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted October 8, 2017 #952 Share Posted October 8, 2017 8 minutes ago, Kurzweil said: No, not trying to be funny just trying to gauge your character. You show yours. Excessive question marks with explosive sarcasm tells me you are not to be taken seriously in this discussion. Sorry for being rude but I'll bypass your further posts. Hold up a minute! How the hell can you even consider the possibility that I'm defending this guy after what I've said in here? And you're wondering why I sound a bit p***ed off with what you said? Really? So why did you feel a need to ask me this after reading my posts? Don't bypass= Explain.................... 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted October 8, 2017 #953 Share Posted October 8, 2017 8 minutes ago, pallidin said: That's exactly what I was sensing from you ! You do not believe in either media or government reports at all (that they are just conjecture, in your words) So, you form opinions without taking the time to gather established, accepted facts, and attack those that do. Wow. That's exactly the mindset of a conspiracy theorist. oh ok then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted October 8, 2017 #954 Share Posted October 8, 2017 15 minutes ago, Dejarma said: yes Adso is that you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted October 8, 2017 #955 Share Posted October 8, 2017 1 minute ago, Dejarma said: oh ok then Feel free to offer your contribution to this thread... it would be welcome...and we have yet to hear it. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted October 8, 2017 #956 Share Posted October 8, 2017 1 minute ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: Adso is that you? yep 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurzweil Posted October 8, 2017 #957 Share Posted October 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, Dejarma said: Hold up a minute! How the hell can you even consider the possibility that I'm defending this guy after what I've said in here? And you're wondering why I sound a bit p***ed off with what you said? Really? So why did you feel a need to ask me this after reading my posts? Don't bypass= Explain.................... I didn't imply I just asked. You took it to a whole new level. Chill. I'm busy reading new posts elsewhere. I'll get get to rereading yours and explain my thoughts on those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted October 8, 2017 #958 Share Posted October 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, Kurzweil said: I didn't imply I just asked. you haven't explained why you felt a need to ask! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted October 8, 2017 #959 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Apparently this discussion was too amicable for the newcomer. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kismit Posted October 8, 2017 #960 Share Posted October 8, 2017 (IP: Staff) · 2 hours ago, Dejarma said: yes of course it is... kinda strange that (as far as i know) his organic mental illness wasn't noticed by friends & family 2 hours ago, Will Due said: He was sane and normal minded. But evil. Mental stability is not a guarantee. Even the smartest, most normal person can mentally lose the plot. Many normal people have times in their lives when they become obsessive, or depressed, or anxious. Most of which are stress related illness'. The longer this goes on the more I feel Paddock was more in debt than out of it. Perhaps even owing loan sharks. 2 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted October 8, 2017 #961 Share Posted October 8, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Kismit said: Mental stability is not a guarantee. Even the smartest, most normal person can mentally lose the plot. Yep, absolutely... I'm not sure of the percentage but I remember it at around 30-40% of psychiatrists lost the plot early on in life, & that's why they took an interest in the subject & became psychiatrists themselves. Edited October 8, 2017 by Dejarma 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurzweil Posted October 8, 2017 #962 Share Posted October 8, 2017 2 hours ago, Dejarma said: yes of course it is... kinda strange that (as far as i know) his organic mental illness wasn't noticed by friends & family Not sure how do multiple quotes on a phone but I'll start here. This. The wording. Can't tell if it's sarcasm but surely it must be. If it's not then I jumped to the conclusion you had some support for the guy. Once again if it's not then I'm wrong. Either convey your message the way you mean it or keep sarcasm out of horrific atrocities like this. I'll get around to the rest of the garbage you posted when I'm done reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted October 8, 2017 #963 Share Posted October 8, 2017 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Kismit said: The longer this goes on the more I feel Paddock was more in debt than out of it. Perhaps even owing loan sharks. I know how quickly people can lose money gambling. Other than casinos, he never flaunted his money. Otherwise he seemed rather thrifty, even buying his clothes at Walmart. He made a huge amount of money in real estate, living in an average apartment building he owned. His current home wasn't opulent. At this point, he still seems to be incredibly well off though. I neglected to post a link to the article that traced a lot of his finances and I don't know where I read it. If I run across it again tomorrow I'll post it. I think it was AU news. My eyes are getting tired tonight and I'm going to have to stop reading. Edited October 8, 2017 by Michelle 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted October 8, 2017 #964 Share Posted October 8, 2017 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Kismit said: Mental stability is not a guarantee. Even the smartest, most normal person can mentally lose the plot. Many normal people have times in their lives when they become obsessive, or depressed, or anxious. Most of which are stress related illness'. The longer this goes on the more I feel Paddock was more in debt than out of it. Perhaps even owing loan sharks. I've heard of people in serious debt either committing suicide or killing those he perceived put him into debt, and possibly a few bystanders. But I've never heard of a severe debtor committing unprecedented major, mass murder exclusively on 100% complete innocents. Edited October 8, 2017 by pallidin 2 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted October 8, 2017 #965 Share Posted October 8, 2017 32 minutes ago, pallidin said: Feel free to offer your contribution to this thread... it would be welcome...and we have yet to hear it. docyabut2... my statement was for Dejarma, not you. You've already contributed multiple times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kismit Posted October 8, 2017 #966 Share Posted October 8, 2017 (IP: Staff) · Posters are reminded not to post or post links to graphic images. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted October 8, 2017 #967 Share Posted October 8, 2017 1 minute ago, Michelle said: I have no doubt that link will be removed. Nobody ever does that with a rifle. It's sort of a no brainer. Your right. Link is rather gross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted October 8, 2017 #968 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Just now, Kismit said: Posters are reminded not to post or post links to graphic images. Sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kartikg Posted October 8, 2017 #969 Share Posted October 8, 2017 39 minutes ago, Kismit said: The longer this goes on the more I feel Paddock was more in debt than out of it. Perhaps even owing loan sharks. This is what actually bothers me, why don't these shooters kill bad people? he could have easily tried killing the loan sharks. This is what actually bothers me, why don't these shooters kill bad people? he could have easily tried killing the loan sharks 2 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted October 8, 2017 #970 Share Posted October 8, 2017 (edited) An interesting theory into the minds of mass murderers... http://ideas.time.com/2013/11/26/there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-motive-for-mass-killings/ When we search for a “motive,” we’re looking for things like self-defense, revenge, jealousy, or personal dispute. There are also motives in which the victim may be somewhat more arbitrary, such as robbery, sexual assault, or sadistic pleasure. But there is no evidence that any of these motives apply to the Newtown shooting, as there almost never is for mass shootings—which is why we speak of them as “senseless.” Edited October 10, 2017 by Saru Trimmed for length 3 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted October 8, 2017 #971 Share Posted October 8, 2017 2 hours ago, Dejarma said: Oh yeah, great news-- I loved it when I heard someone had just murdered 58 people & wounded many others.. Fantastic, wonderful... It's made me want to buy loads of guns!! But I can't because I'm in England! What a bummer... Are you serious or just trying to be funny?????????????? The Onion has an article to the tune of “there’s nothing that can be done to stop regular mass shootings, says only country in world that has regular mass shootings”. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted October 8, 2017 #972 Share Posted October 8, 2017 https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/10/06/new-evidence-may-suggest-las-vegas-shooter-stephen-paddock-was-not-alone-in-hotel-room/23235474/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted October 8, 2017 #973 Share Posted October 8, 2017 https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/10/06/new-evidence-may-suggest-las-vegas-shooter-stephen-paddock-was-not-alone-in-hotel-room/23235474/ They said there was evidence, maybe it was a terrorist that killed all the people and killed Paddock. Perhaps why he was threaten to set this all up. Maybe why Danley said he was moaning and screaming in his dreams and sent her away. 2 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted October 8, 2017 #974 Share Posted October 8, 2017 16 minutes ago, docyabut2 said: https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/10/06/new-evidence-may-suggest-las-vegas-shooter-stephen-paddock-was-not-alone-in-hotel-room/23235474/ They said there was evidence, maybe it was a terrorist that killed all the people and killed Paddock. Perhaps why he was threaten to set this all up. Maybe why Danley said he was moaning and screaming in his dreams and sent her away. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-vegas-shooting/amp/police-confident-no-one-else-shooters-room-las-vegas-attack-n808431 Earlier, senior law enforcement sources said investigators were puzzled by a charger that did not appear to match any of Paddock’s cellphones. Police have now been able to match all of the cell phone chargers found in the room with multiple cell phones that Paddock had with him. 2 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Grey Posted October 8, 2017 #975 Share Posted October 8, 2017 24 minutes ago, pallidin said: Mystery woman seen with Las Vegas shooter has finally been identified — it adds another twist Its starting to seem like Paddock intended to die in that room. Ordering a prostitute, sending 100g's to his gf...he was ready for his last night. I still wonder about other people being involved in this plot. We will see what surfaces over the next few weeks, hopefully something that sheds light on the "doomsayers" in the crowd before the shooting 4 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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