Trump threatens to abandon Puerto Rico

[WoIverine]

Just now, Hammerclaw said:

Then your response brooks no debate, since you disavow responsibility for your own words.

HC, we're at an impasse here.

If you refuse to watch, then I will be forced to chalk that up to willful ignorance. If you feel like I'm disavowing my own words, don't. Why should I reinvent the wheel? I agree with Paul, cut funding in regard to ridiculous foreign projects and spend the money at home, home includes Puerto Rico.

[+Hammerclaw]

Just now, WoIverine said:

HC, we're at an impasse here.

If you refuse to watch, then I will be forced to chalk that up to willful ignorance. If you feel like I'm disavowing my own words, don't. Why should I reinvent the wheel? I agree with Paul, cut funding in regard to ridiculous foreign projects and spend the money at home, home includes Puerto Rico.

That's not my question. What countries that hate us do we give aid to? 

[WoIverine]

11 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said:

That's not my question. What countries that hate us do we give aid to? 

Palestine comes to mind.

[+Hammerclaw]

Just now, WoIverine said:

Palestine comes to mind.

Is that all? A mere pittance and their objection is our support for the Zionists, not any visceral hatred for us.

[WoIverine]

23 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said:

Is that all? A mere pittance and their objection is our support for the Zionists, not any visceral hatred for us.

http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Gazan-crowd-chants-Death-to-America-Death-to-Israel

^ I'm sure that probably doesn't sit too well with Americans, or Israelis.

Again, would that money not be better spent on Texas, and PR?

Edited October 12, 2017 by WoIverine

[RoofGardener]

2 hours ago, and then said:

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 P.R.s population is 3.4 million, they owe SEVENTY BILLION DOLLARS. ....

Sooooo.... the same per-capita debt as the rest of America ? 

[A rather obscure Bassoon]

More food for the Lefty liberal haters.

Is he really threatening to abandon them or just saying that there's only so much money in the pot ?

[+and-then]

3 hours ago, quiXilver said:

well... at least you're not bitter about it...

Not in the least.  I just get sick of the mindless hate speech of idiot Leftists where Trump is concerned.

[+and-then]

1 hour ago, RoofGardener said:

Sooooo.... the same per-capita debt as the rest of America ? 

I didn't bother with the math.  Did you?  If so, I'd like to see the comparison.

[+and-then]

3 hours ago, Hammerclaw said:

Since Americans think nothing of spending well over a fifty billion dollars a year on pet food and care, it shouldn't be that much of a problem for them to help fellow Americans survive and recover from a natural disaster.

And do you REALLY believe his intention is to allow them to suffer and die without aid?  Get serious...

[+and-then]

1 hour ago, Hammerclaw said:

Is that all? A mere pittance and their objection is our support for the Zionists, not any visceral hatred for us.

Right.

 

They do a REALLY good impersonation of hating us.

Edited October 12, 2017 by and then

[ExpandMyMind]

San Juan mayor to Trump: You're the 'Hater in Chief'

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The mayor of Puerto Rico's largest city said President Trump is the “Hater in Chief” after Trump said the U.S. response to the crisis in the U.S. territory couldn’t last “forever.”

“[Y]our comments about Puerto Rico are unbecoming of a Commander in Chief,” Carmen Yulín Cruz tweeted, “they seem more to come from a ‘Hater in Chief’.”

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/355125-san-juan-mayor-to-trump-youre-the-hater-in-chief

[WoIverine]

http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/30/news/teamsters-union-puerto-rico-hurricane-maria/index.html

San Juan Mayor, Yulín Cruz - "I was asking for help," she said. "I wasn't saying anything nasty about the President."

Edited October 12, 2017 by WoIverine

[Michelle]

FBI in Puerto Rico investigating if corrupt local officials are 'withholding' or 'mishandling' crucial supplies

FBI agents in Puerto Rico have been receiving calls from "across the island" with residents complaining local officials are "withholding" or "mishandling" critical FEMA supplies -- with one island official even accused of stuffing his own car full of goods meant for the suffering populace.

cont...

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/12/fbi-in-puerto-rico-investigating-if-corrupt-local-officials-are-withholding-or-mishandling-crucial-supplies.html

[+Hammerclaw]

2 hours ago, WoIverine said:

http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Gazan-crowd-chants-Death-to-America-Death-to-Israel

^ I'm sure that probably doesn't sit too well with Americans, or Israelis.

Again, would that money not be better spent on Texas, and PR?

I rather doubt Texas, by itself, is hurting for money. Even the Egyptians washed their hands of Gaza and refused the offer to take it back, following the Peace they made with Israel. Hamas gets nothing from us. Humanitarian assistance is for people, not politicians or terrorist groups.

[+Hammerclaw]

According to CBC News, the Trump administration has, on it's own, authorized a 29 billion dollar relief package for Puerto Rico. Congress can do much more, if they would get off their legislative backsides, put political bickering aside and do their damn jobs.

[+Hammerclaw]

3 hours ago, Lilly said:

Off the top of my head I can think of a few countries that don't really like the United States all that much but we still give them 'foreign aid'. Pakistan and Egypt are the top two contenders.

Yes and our friendship and support of a certain ally in the region is the author of their distress. Egypt, at least, doesn't seem to mind our tourists and their dollars.

[Only_]

9 hours ago, Lilly said:

The United States is currently 20 Trillion in debt. I think that fact pretty much explains the problem.

That's how it goes when you put wars on the credit card.

[mysticwerewolf]

nothing against them personally. so I understand ( and I could be wrong but...) but every time they have been asked they refuse statehood.. as I understand it they do not pay income tax (who knows I could be wrong about that). with all the damage done recently by the wild fires and hurricanes why should we continue helping them. if it were up to me I would refuse to help on the grounds there are to many problems suffered by our citizens, why help people who demand it and give us nothing ( be being the U.S.) in return.????? ( no I am not very nice sometimes)

Edited October 13, 2017 by mysticwerewolf
spelling and punctuation

[Odin11]

12 minutes ago, mysticwerewolf said:

nothing against them personally. so I understand ( and I could be wrong but...) but every time they have been asked them refuse statehood.. as I understand it they do not pay income tax (who knows I could be wrong about that). with all the damage done recently by the wild fires and hurricanes why should we continue helping them. if it were up to me I would refuse to help on the grounds there are to many problems suffered by our citizens, why help people who demand it and give us nothing ( be being the U.S.) in return.????? ( no I am not very nice sometimes)

Puerto Ricans pay most federal taxes except the federal personal income tax, they are also U.S. citizens. The US is obligated to help it just as much as Texas and Florida.

[Uncle Sam]

10 hours ago, Michelle said:

FBI in Puerto Rico investigating if corrupt local officials are 'withholding' or 'mishandling' crucial supplies

FBI agents in Puerto Rico have been receiving calls from "across the island" with residents complaining local officials are "withholding" or "mishandling" critical FEMA supplies -- with one island official even accused of stuffing his own car full of goods meant for the suffering populace.

cont...

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/12/fbi-in-puerto-rico-investigating-if-corrupt-local-officials-are-withholding-or-mishandling-crucial-supplies.html

I knew corruption was a big issue in PR, it has been like this for a long time, unsurprisingly it is mostly contributed to Democrats in governing positions.

[Farmer77]

17 hours ago, Lilly said:

The United States is currently 20 Trillion in debt. I think that fact pretty much explains the problem.

Bullcrap.......the problem is priorities. We cant pay for Puerto Rico recovery but we can pay for the VP to fly to a football game in order to make a political statement? 

[Farmer77]

13 hours ago, Michelle said:

FBI in Puerto Rico investigating if corrupt local officials are 'withholding' or 'mishandling' crucial supplies

FBI agents in Puerto Rico have been receiving calls from "across the island" with residents complaining local officials are "withholding" or "mishandling" critical FEMA supplies -- with one island official even accused of stuffing his own car full of goods meant for the suffering populace.

cont...

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/12/fbi-in-puerto-rico-investigating-if-corrupt-local-officials-are-withholding-or-mishandling-crucial-supplies.html

All the more reason that its important FEMA stay involved 

[Farmer77]

5 hours ago, mysticwerewolf said:

I would refuse to help on the grounds there are to many problems suffered by our citizens

Puerto Ricans are US citizens 

Edited October 13, 2017 by Farmer77

[Lilly]

10 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

Bullcrap.......the problem is priorities. We cant pay for Puerto Rico recovery but we can pay for the VP to fly to a football game in order to make a political statement? 

Uh, something tells me Pence flying to the football game just may have cost a tad less than completely re-vamping Puerto Rico.

It's not as if there won't be any aid going to Puerto Rico, but money has to go to Texas, Florida and the California wildfires as well. Keep in mind it's Congress (not the President) that decides upon the amount of money for these disasters.