Baba vanga

[XenoFish 69,387]

On 12/24/2017 at 10:52 PM, pallidin said:

Speaking only for myself, I'm "OK" with psychic phenom.

But I sometimes wonder if those suffering from acute mental illness (such as schizophrenia) are at times  mistakenly attributing the impressions and voices as being of either a higher power or higher awareness.

Must be an incredible internal experience... seemingly so real.

Holy Hell Pallidin. You make sense. Good job.

Now consider why some of us are very critical of any 'psychic' abilities.

[pallidin 9,212]

2 hours ago, XenoFish said:

Holy Hell Pallidin. You make sense. Good job.

Now consider why some of us are very critical of any 'psychic' abilities.

And we absolutely should be critical of any extraordinary claim.

But not dismissive of its potential to be real.

After all, we do exist in a quantum reality... with all of its mind-numbing strangeness.

[Gold Star 21]

Actually it began at Christ's birth. Not that making up your own definitions are going to save failed predictions.

Don't be misled by historians and popular traditions.  Christ and every Jew lived under the Mosaic Law up until the Resurrection. The Christian church began at Pentecost. There was no Christianity during the life of Christ. Sorry to disillusion you. 

[Rlyeh 11,889]

9 hours ago, Gold Star said:

Actually it began at Christ's birth. Not that making up your own definitions are going to save failed predictions.

Don't be misled by historians and popular traditions.  Christ and every Jew lived under the Mosaic Law up until the Resurrection. The Christian church began at Pentecost. There was no Christianity during the life of Christ. Sorry to disillusion you. 

Nothing to do with what I said.

[Orphalesion 2,566]

16 hours ago, Gold Star said:

Actually it began at Christ's birth. Not that making up your own definitions are going to save failed predictions.

Don't be misled by historians and popular traditions.  Christ and every Jew lived under the Mosaic Law up until the Resurrection. The Christian church began at Pentecost. There was no Christianity during the life of Christ. Sorry to disillusion you. 

Yet, if dear old Baba really could predict things which such precision, why wouldn't she have compensated for this imaginary difference in time? Why did she say 2010 instead of 2030? And if she had gotten those prophecies form some higher power, why wouldn't that higher power have compensated for that imaginary time difference and told her "2030" instead of "2010"?

The only thing I find really interesting about her prophecies is the part where we'll encounter "something truly frigtening" during our search for alien life forms. Not that I believe in prophecies like that, but the wording is nicely evocative and it's fun to think what something "truly frightening" would be. I mean she did predict some pretty graphic stuff irrc and lived through some rough periods of history, so what would count as "truly frightening" when compared to that?

[Gold Star 21]

Prophecies do have the appearance of contradicting the notion of free will. To get around this, prophecies can have twists and turns that make them not fully understandable. Perhaps the most famous misunderstood ones came from the Delphic oracle. Then there are those of Nostradamus which usually aren't understood until they actually occur. Utilizing this little-known fact of history, as Baba Vanga has been given by her higher power,  has been also given to other mystics.  Admittedly, prophecies are a very slippery subject, since they can be altered or nullified by the reactions of people who know of them. This is due to the exercise of free will granted human beings. No dates should be accepted as absolute truth, only as approximations.

[XenoFish 69,387]

Anyone ever heard of self fulfilling prophecy? I have.

[Scarlatti 12]

I can see why she was known as the 'Nostradamus from the Balkans'. Her predictions are just as obscure and lacking in dates. What utter piffle. At least the Brahan seer made specific predictions.

[qxcontinuum 865]

I was actually fortunate to visit Vanga with my parents once. Long story as of why. Anyways she was blind very poor but able to see also the dead of each family who visited her including my dead grandmother. Vanga called my dad with the same nickname my grandmoder used to call him. I was amazed

[stereologist 12,105]

On 12/25/2017 at 11:36 AM, Gold Star said:

2010 – World War III. War will begin in November 2010 and end in October 2014. Will begin as usual, then nuclear will be used initially, and then chemical weapons.

2011 – As a result of the fallout of nuclear fallout in the northern hemisphere will not be any animals or vegetation. Then Muslims will wage war against chemical surviving Europeans.

2014 – Most people will suffer skin cancer and other skin diseases (a consequence of chemical warfare).

2016 – Europe almost lonely (empty).

A lot of predictions were made about what would happen when we entered the 21st century. Actually, the Christian era didn't begin at 1 AD. It really began at the resurrection of Christ around 30 AD. So, the 21st century will truly begin around 2030. Adding 30 to the dates above gives us a realistic timeline in line with other prophecies. 

Your realignment of dates only applies if BabaVanga also used your made up timeline.

The simple fact is that someone who shotgunned predictions lucked out with some hits. It would  have been amazing if such a tactic failed in all cases.

 

[Gold Star 21]

The dates were supplied to Baba Vanga by her higher power. She accepted whatever dates she was given. You can blame her higher power for being devious and obscure. 

Example: "2028: Mankind will fly to Venus, in the hope of finding new sources of energy"  Venus is called the morning star. Christ calls himself the "bright and morning star in Rev 22:16. 

Interpretation: In 2058 many millions left from WWIII will flock to Christianity to receive spiritual gifts and experiences, and be cured of diseases by spiritual healers, because of a new spiritual outpouring resembling a second  Pentecost.

[Rlyeh 11,889]

3 hours ago, Gold Star said:

The dates were supplied to Baba Vanga by her higher power. She accepted whatever dates she was given. You can blame her higher power for being devious and obscure. 

Example: "2028: Mankind will fly to Venus, in the hope of finding new sources of energy"  Venus is called the morning star. Christ calls himself the "bright and morning star in Rev 22:16. 

Interpretation: In 2058 many millions left from WWIII will flock to Christianity to receive spiritual gifts and experiences, and be cured of diseases by spiritual healers, because of a new spiritual outpouring resembling a second  Pentecost.

That interpretation resembles little of the original claim.

Interpretation: Gold Star is talking crap.

[Sir Wearer of Hats 27,274]

On 31/12/2017 at 0:12 PM, Gold Star said:

The dates were supplied to Baba Vanga by her higher power. She accepted whatever dates she was given. You can blame her higher power for being devious and obscure. 

Example: "2028: Mankind will fly to Venus, in the hope of finding new sources of energy"  Venus is called the morning star. Christ calls himself the "bright and morning star in Rev 22:16. 

Interpretation: In 2058 many millions left from WWIII will flock to Christianity to receive spiritual gifts and experiences, and be cured of diseases by spiritual healers, because of a new spiritual outpouring resembling a second  Pentecost.

You kknow who else was called “Morning Star”? 

Hint ... 

[badeskov 6,875]

On 12/30/2017 at 6:12 PM, Gold Star said:

The dates were supplied to Baba Vanga by her higher power. She accepted whatever dates she was given. You can blame her higher power for being devious and obscure. 

Example: "2028: Mankind will fly to Venus, in the hope of finding new sources of energy"  Venus is called the morning star. Christ calls himself the "bright and morning star in Rev 22:16. 

Interpretation: In 2058 many millions left from WWIII will flock to Christianity to receive spiritual gifts and experiences, and be cured of diseases by spiritual healers, because of a new spiritual outpouring resembling a second  Pentecost.

Utter nonsense. 

[StaceB 10]

I find her predictions very interesting. Especially how far reaching they are into the future. We won't be around to witness the end of the earth but it is a strong possibility that we will colonize another habitable planet. The predictions about space exploration & bringing a deadly disease back are both intriguing & unnerving....if they are indeed her predictions.

[badeskov 6,875]

On 1/17/2018 at 2:30 PM, StaceB said:

I find her predictions very interesting. Especially how far reaching they are into the future. We won't be around to witness the end of the earth but it is a strong possibility that we will colonize another habitable planet. The predictions about space exploration & bringing a deadly disease back are both intriguing & unnerving....if they are indeed her predictions.

And what exactly did she predict? Like nothing?

 

[Nostrodumbass 167]

Prophecies are too vague and complicated.

Edited January 24, 2018 by Nostrodumbass