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Alaric

I think this may be Trump’s way of putting leverage on the key players... “fall into line or we drag you all through the mud on the Uranium One deal”... “then we investigate the kickbacks and the donations to the Clinton Foundation”... I’m guessing they will just so happen to wrap up their “Russian Collusion” investigation very soon now.

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Baz Dane
On ‎10‎/‎17‎/‎2017 at 9:59 PM, Lemieux said:

Where is Trump on his Twitter now???  :innocent:  :unsure:

 

And there we go... Thank you Mr. President :tu:

Now... about that "Lock her up!" chant... :whistle:

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F3SS
On 10/18/2017 at 9:36 AM, ExpandMyMind said:

Suicide by two bullets to the back of the head.

Being from the UK, I am truly astounded at the level of corruption in the US. I know corruption exists everywhere and it's far worse in countries that have dictatorships or high poverty, but this scale of it in another western country, especially the US, actually shocks me. It's practically an accepted part of your culture, from the ground up.

Astounded? You guys accept a singular family, which refers to you as their subject, born into untold riches who quite literally stands above the law while at this point in time seems to exist for no better reason than tradition with a princess popping out untouchable royal babies ensuring this tradition continues for as many generations as you allow.

That my friend is astounding.

However, you’re not wrong about us either but I tend to share preachermans outlook atm. I want to believe as WillDue does and I voted Trump in hopes that it would happen but so far all I see is more scum being exposed for things people like us who pay attention have long known or suspected. While that is somewhat uplifting I’ll believe things are crashing when I see less investigative committees and more actual charges filed. The swamp is still full.

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Lilly
11 hours ago, F3SS said:

....but so far all I see is more scum being exposed for things people like us who pay attention have long known or suspected. While that is somewhat uplifting I’ll believe things are crashing when I see less investigative committees and more actual charges filed. The swamp is still full.

I tend to agree. Most of the problem is that Trump really isn't an R, he's actually a P. Trump is a Populist. The swamp is full of both D and R creatures who want nothing more than to destroy the notion that free market capitalism and our Constitution should be driving the bus.

Our last election was supposed to be between the Clinton/Obama Democrats and the Bush family Republicans. Trump threw a wrench into that plan and now we have the current mess. I saw where Bush 43 was speaking and he couldn't wait to throw Trump under the bus. Seriously, the man who got us into the Iraq War and was at the helm when the economy tanked in 2007 was publically criticizing another President.

Frankly, I don't think Trump will be able to succeed. The well has been poisoned. Even if Trump manages to get a better healthcare plan, a tax plan that encourages economic growth, border security, destroys ISIS, deals with North Korea (and all the other issues), the powers that be are dead set upon his destruction.

Election 2020 will herald a return to the notion that a Global Socialist Utopia will solve all our problems. I intend to pull most of my retirement out of the stock market before that though. I'll be dead (thankfully) before the destruction of the United States of America is complete. Good luck to all of you young people.

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Merc14
18 minutes ago, Lilly said:

I tend to agree. Most of the problem is that Trump really isn't an R, he's actually a P. Trump is a Populist. The swamp is full of both D and R creatures who want nothing more than to destroy the notion that free market capitalism and our Constitution should be driving the bus.

Our last election was supposed to be between the Clinton/Obama Democrats and the Bush family Republicans. Trump threw a wrench into that plan and now we have the current mess. I saw where Bush 43 was speaking and he couldn't wait to throw Trump under the bus. Seriously, the man who got us into the Iraq War and was at the helm when the economy tanked in 2007 was publically criticizing another President.

Frankly, I don't think Trump will be able to succeed. The well has been poisoned. Even if Trump manages to get a better healthcare plan, a tax plan that encourages economic growth, border security, destroys ISIS, deals with North Korea (and all the other issues), the powers that be are dead set upon his destruction.

Election 2020 will herald a return to the notion that a Global Socialist Utopia will solve all our problems. I intend to pull most of my retirement out of the stock market before that though. I'll be dead (thankfully) before the destruction of the United States of America is complete. Good luck to all of you young people.

When Bush put his arm around Ted Kennedy and tasked him to fix education I gave up on the man.   His whole campaign was a scam but I had to vote for him again as the alternative was beyond imagination.  As far as the economy tanking, he did warn and plead to get the mortgage industry cleaned op but Barney Frank and pals screamed racism and they kept handing out those bound to fail mortgages.  Oh well, every president, except Obama. takes the blame when the economy fails and the accolades, except Trump, when it grows

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Merc14

Things are so d\irt wiyh all this urnaium stuff and Robert Mueller should vacate his position as Special Prosecutor considering he is neck deep in this uranium scandal.  http://www.ntd.tv/2017/10/19/sessions-hints-that-the-doj-is-investigating-clinton-russia-scandal/

 

Wikileaks noted the cable on Twitter, stating on July 29, “Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller flew to Moscow and gave the FSB 10 grams of Highly Enriched Uranium (HEU) in 2009.

The case has only grown deeper. In a follow-up story on Oct. 18, The Hill reported that the Justice Department under the Obama Administration blocked a confidential FBI witness from telling Congress about the Russian nuclear scandal with the Clintons.

Information-leaking website WikiLeaks also published diplomatic cables from August 2009 showing that Robert Mueller, special counsel leading the investigations into potential Russian interference in the 2016 elections, also played a role in the deal with Russia when he served as FBI director.

The leaked cable states, “Embassy Moscow is requested to alert at the highest appropriate level the Russian Federation that FBI Director Mueller plans to deliver the HEU sample once he arrives to Moscow on September 21.”

Wikileaks noted the cable on Twitter, stating on July 29, “Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller flew to Moscow and gave the FSB 10 grams of Highly Enriched Uranium (HEU) in 2009.”

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Grassley also noted during the Oct. 18 hearing that Deputy
 
Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who appointed Mueller as special counsel, was involved in the Russia uranium scandal as well. Rosenstein supervised the criminal investigation into Russia’s uranium bribery campaign when he was U.S. Attorney in Maryland.
 

Grassley noted “I don’t think it would be proper” for Rosenstein to supervise an investigation into a case that he was also involved in, and asked Sessions whether he agrees. Sessions replied, “If he feels that he has an inability to proceed with any of this investigation, it would be his responsibility to make that determination.”

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Will Due
59 minutes ago, Merc14 said:

Things are so d\irt wiyh all this urnaium stuff and Robert Mueller should vacate his position as Special Prosecutor considering he is neck deep in this uranium scandal.  http://www.ntd.tv/2017/10/19/sessions-hints-that-the-doj-is-investigating-clinton-russia-scandal/

 

Wikileaks noted the cable on Twitter, stating on July 29, “Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller flew to Moscow and gave the FSB 10 grams of Highly Enriched Uranium (HEU) in 2009.

The case has only grown deeper. In a follow-up story on Oct. 18, The Hill reported that the Justice Department under the Obama Administration blocked a confidential FBI witness from telling Congress about the Russian nuclear scandal with the Clintons.

Information-leaking website WikiLeaks also published diplomatic cables from August 2009 showing that Robert Mueller, special counsel leading the investigations into potential Russian interference in the 2016 elections, also played a role in the deal with Russia when he served as FBI director.

The leaked cable states, “Embassy Moscow is requested to alert at the highest appropriate level the Russian Federation that FBI Director Mueller plans to deliver the HEU sample once he arrives to Moscow on September 21.”

Wikileaks noted the cable on Twitter, stating on July 29, “Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller flew to Moscow and gave the FSB 10 grams of Highly Enriched Uranium (HEU) in 2009.”

View image on Twitter

Grassley also noted during the Oct. 18 hearing that Deputy
 
Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who appointed Mueller as special counsel, was involved in the Russia uranium scandal as well. Rosenstein supervised the criminal investigation into Russia’s uranium bribery campaign when he was U.S. Attorney in Maryland.
 

Grassley noted “I don’t think it would be proper” for Rosenstein to supervise an investigation into a case that he was also involved in, and asked Sessions whether he agrees. Sessions replied, “If he feels that he has an inability to proceed with any of this investigation, it would be his responsibility to make that determination.”

How in the world is this possible? The blatant degree of these crimes is stunning. If this gets buried and nothing further happens, I think it will be inevitable that the criminnals (public representatives) and the traitors (DOJ officials) will win, and our freedom as Americans will eventually end as the chaos they desire descends on us.

 

 

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Dark_Grey
5 hours ago, Will Due said:

How in the world is this possible? The blatant degree of these crimes is stunning. If this gets buried and nothing further happens, I think it will be inevitable that the criminnals (public representatives) and the traitors (DOJ officials) will win, and our freedom as Americans will eventually end as the chaos they desire descends on us.

Part of the reason is the way the media is covering for Hillary the way they covered for Weinstein. While we are here talking about what should be the BIGGEST scandal in the country, everyone else is talking about...a phone call? 

Where the hell is the 24 hour news cycle on real Russian collusion? The timing of the Trump phone call story is not coincidental. #FAKENEWS is real and that should concern anyone who cares about their country.

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Will Due

I refuse to believe that evil will triumph. That will not happen.

So it is going to be interesting to witness how this will develop. I just hope it will be soon. At least before I'm dead and gone anyway. Lol

 

 

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Merc14

This is  great summary of all that is the Russian uranium scandal, from beginning to end.  Beware, if you are a believer in the law (meaning you aren't a democrat) then this will nauseate you.  http://www.nationalreview.com/article/452972/uranium-one-deal-obama-administration-doj-hillary-clinton-racketeering?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=NR Week in Review 2017-10-22&utm_term=VDHM

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Uncle Sam
1 hour ago, Merc14 said:

This is  great summary of all that is the Russian uranium scandal, from beginning to end.  Beware, if you are a believer in the law (meaning you aren't a democrat) then this will nauseate you.  http://www.nationalreview.com/article/452972/uranium-one-deal-obama-administration-doj-hillary-clinton-racketeering?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=NR Week in Review 2017-10-22&utm_term=VDHM

Disgusting... Clintons seeked out the Russians! Instead of being caught by Russians in blackmail, they deliberately seeked out Russians and sold United States nuclear energy reserves out from under us!

 

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CFIUS is composed of the leaders of 14 U.S. government agencies involved in national security and commerce. In 2010, these included not only Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who had cultivated a reputation as a hawk opposed to such foreign purchases, but Attorney General Eric Holder, whose Justice Department (and its lead agency, the FBI) were conducting the investigation of Rosatom’s ongoing U.S. racketeering, extortion, and money-laundering scheme.

In March 2010, to push the Obama “reset” agenda, Secretary Clinton traveled to Russia, where she met with Putin and Dimitri Medvedev, who was then keeping the president’s chair warm for Putin. Soon after, it emerged that Renaissance Capital, a regime-tied Russian bank, had offered Bill Clinton $500,000 to make a single speech — far more than the former president’s usual haul in what would become one of his biggest paydays ever. Renaissance was an aggressive promoter of Rosatom.

The Clinton speech took place in Moscow in June. The exorbitant speech fee, it is worth noting, is a pittance compared with the $145 million Newsweek reports was donated to the Clinton Foundation by sources linked to the Uranium One deal. The month before the speech, the Hill reports, Bill Clinton told his wife’s State Department that he wanted to meet while in Russia with Arkady Dvorkovich, who, in addition to being a top Medvedev aide, was also a key Rosatom board member. It is not known whether the State Department gave clearance for the meeting; the question appears to have become moot since the former U.S. president met directly with Putin and Medvedev. You’ll be comforted, I’m sure, to learn that aides to the Clintons, those pillars of integrity, assure us that the topics of Rosatom and Uranium One never came up.

 

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Will Due

I've never been so outraged about anything!

I have no words.

Where are the Trump haters? What, you show yourself as being complicit with these criminals by NOT posting a comment?

FFS are there any Trump haters with spines?

 

 

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Merc14

Even worse than the democrats are the the three networks and CNN/MSNBC that refuse to report this.  It was a crime against all of us, not just the "hated right", yet the leftists ignore it, just as they ignored Bill's "alleged" sex crimes.  

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Gromdor

I have to say I find this interesting.  It looks like a lot of dirt was uncovered about contractors and politicians-Republican and Democrat alike.  With the previous Clinton scandal, Obama was president so the argument could be (and was) made that the Obama DOJ was refusing to investigate.  But now we have Trump and still nothing.   Rod Rosenstein is named in this case and yet he is the Deputy Attorney General of the Trump DOJ.  One would think that one of the first steps Trump would do was to fire him. 

I have a feeling a whole lot of nothing will happen.  The police chief (Trump) basically tweeted complaining that the politicians (Senate) weren't investigating.  The swamp is alive and well.

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Merc14
11 hours ago, Gromdor said:

I have to say I find this interesting.  It looks like a lot of dirt was uncovered about contractors and politicians-Republican and Democrat alike.  With the previous Clinton scandal, Obama was president so the argument could be (and was) made that the Obama DOJ was refusing to investigate.  But now we have Trump and still nothing.   Rod Rosenstein is named in this case and yet he is the Deputy Attorney General of the Trump DOJ.  One would think that one of the first steps Trump would do was to fire him. 

I have a feeling a whole lot of nothing will happen.  The police chief (Trump) basically tweeted complaining that the politicians (Senate) weren't investigating.  The swamp is alive and well.

I find it interesting that Rosenstein is enjoying such a high level position as well but Mueller investigating Trump for a fantasy crime is even more interesting give hois role in all this and you not being sickened by your parties' corruption is very interesting.  You say democrats AND republicans but there was two RINOs involved and a dozen democrats so hardly comparable isn't it?  This was very much a democrat crime and it is very interesting that your only comment is about Trump.

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Will Due

Isn't it interesting? No anti-Trumpist will dare to refute the authenticity of the facts about the Hill's damning Uranium One report.

Not in the MSM. 

Not in this forum.

 

That's not hard to believe though. After all, it was the supporters of the Nazis who allowed them to commit their crimes. Without the support of the majority of the German people, there wouldn't have been a holocaust. 

Something just like it is happening now in our country.

And we'll see, if it'll be the same thing this time around.

 

 

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AnchorSteam
On 10/20/2017 at 11:58 AM, Will Due said:

How in the world is this possible? The blatant degree of these crimes is stunning. If this gets buried and nothing further happens, I think it will be inevitable that the criminnals (public representatives) and the traitors (DOJ officials) will win, and our freedom as Americans will eventually end as the chaos they desire descends on us.

 

 

It is a pretty horrible thing to say it, but I'm glad I'm not young.

Know what I mean?

 

On 10/20/2017 at 5:38 AM, Lilly said:

....

Frankly, I don't think Trump will be able to succeed. The well has been poisoned. Even if Trump manages to get a better healthcare plan, a tax plan that encourages economic growth, border security, destroys ISIS, deals with North Korea (and all the other issues), the powers that be are dead set upon his destruction.

Election 2020 will herald a return to the notion that a Global Socialist Utopia will solve all our problems. I intend to pull most of my retirement out of the stock market before that though. I'll be dead (thankfully) before the destruction of the United States of America is complete. Good luck to all of you young people.

and again....

 

Well, I think the young people are much tougher and smarter than people give them credit for, and with even a limited amount of support they WILL understand the difference and stand up for themselves. 

They sure don't have to put up with being debt-slaves for the rest of their lives and live in shame forever because they were born Americans.

Ever notice how many millenials are becoming right-wing pundits? 

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Paranormal Panther
22 hours ago, Merc14 said:

Even worse than the democrats are the the three networks and CNN/MSNBC that refuse to report this.  It was a crime against all of us, not just the "hated right", yet the leftists ignore it, just as they ignored Bill's "alleged" sex crimes.  

Bill O'Reilly gets a lot of coverage on NBC. Oh, you mean the *other* Bill. ;)

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Paranormal Panther
On 10/20/2017 at 8:38 PM, Dark_Grey said:

Part of the reason is the way the media is covering for Hillary the way they covered for Weinstein. While we are here talking about what should be the BIGGEST scandal in the country, everyone else is talking about...a phone call? 

Where the hell is the 24 hour news cycle on real Russian collusion? The timing of the Trump phone call story is not coincidental. #FAKENEWS is real and that should concern anyone who cares about their country.

The Democratic propaganda news outlets are like grossly obese people with double standards. They eat more and more to prove that they aren't gluttonous while they claim that fit individuals are fat pigs. They feign shock when even toddlers see through the blatant hypocrisy. They then eat a bowl of fried lard while they brag about how healthy they are.  

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Will Due
14 minutes ago, Paranormal Panther said:

The Democratic propaganda news outlets are like grossly obese people with double standards. They eat more and more to prove that they aren't gluttonous while they claim that fit individuals are fat pigs. They feign shock when even toddlers see through the blatant hypocrisy. They then eat a bowl of fried lard while they brag about how healthy they are.  

And now they're going to have to eat themselves.

Bon appetit.

 

 

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Gromdor
10 hours ago, Merc14 said:

I find it interesting that Rosenstein is enjoying such a high level position as well but Mueller investigating Trump for a fantasy crime is even more interesting give hois role in all this and you not being sickened by your parties' corruption is very interesting.  You say democrats AND republicans but there was two RINOs involved and a dozen democrats so hardly comparable isn't it?  This was very much a democrat crime and it is very interesting that your only comment is about Trump.

Why would I be sickened by my parties corruption?  The Trans-humanist party had nothing to do with this.

But hey, lets be blunt here.  Rino, Dino, or Wino makes no difference here.  Rosenstein is a Trump minion and serves at his pleasure and apparently it is his pleasure to have him as the #2 guy at the Dept. of Justice.  So I am just going to flat out say, there will be no conviction because Trump himself is protecting Hillary and the lot.  He's not going to "Lock her up", nor will he investigate this.  He will use it as a foil to distract and rail against Hillary and the Dems but also to keep control of his army of Merc's.  He and his companies engaged in the exact same form of "hand greasing" as the Russians, so he is surely familiar with how that business works.

If he were truly serious about this, Rosenstein would be gone and there would be a very public (because that follows his trend) investigation.

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Merc14
2 hours ago, Gromdor said:

Why would I be sickened by my parties corruption?  The Trans-humanist party had nothing to do with this.

But hey, lets be blunt here.  Rino, Dino, or Wino makes no difference here.  Rosenstein is a Trump minion and serves at his pleasure and apparently it is his pleasure to have him as the #2 guy at the Dept. of Justice.  So I am just going to flat out say, there will be no conviction because Trump himself is protecting Hillary and the lot.  He's not going to "Lock her up", nor will he investigate this.  He will use it as a foil to distract and rail against Hillary and the Dems but also to keep control of his army of Merc's.  He and his companies engaged in the exact same form of "hand greasing" as the Russians, so he is surely familiar with how that business works.

If he were truly serious about this, Rosenstein would be gone and there would be a very public (because that follows his trend) investigation.

My understanding is the president does not investigate crimes nor does he prosecute them, that is the FBI and the DoJ.   The rest of your post sis simply drivel dreamed up in your biased and closed mind.  

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Lilly

Ok, I know this comes from Fox News but it's certainly worth listening to. If this is accurate then there really is 'Russian collusion', just not from the original target of the investigation.

 

 

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