I was born on Mars... claims Boy

[pallidin]

22 minutes ago, taniwha said:

It's a long shot, but there could be an ear attached to the sphinxs belly button.

Lol...

[DragonFire22]

 

[Ozymandias]

4 hours ago, DragonFire22 said:

 

Acoustic levitation of megaliths at Stonehenge!!?? Today we can lift a kilogramme or so in laboratories or specialist manufacturing facilities. The builders of Stonehenge were using antler picks to dig holes. If I lived back then and could acoustically levitate a twenty ton rock I'd say to hell with Stonehenge, let's venerate the levitating device. The priests would have had great fun, and power, levitating themselves in front of the multitude.

[Dyna]

There is no way to prove either way. People who jump to conclusions I can't fathom.

So you say Mars never had an advanced civilization, what a childish remark. Clearly something major disrupted Mars and they admit finally that it once had the same seas and rivers and lakes we do here.

[stereologist]

1 hour ago, Dyna said:

There is no way to prove either way. People who jump to conclusions I can't fathom.

So you say Mars never had an advanced civilization, what a childish remark. Clearly something major disrupted Mars and they admit finally that it once had the same seas and rivers and lakes we do here.

But no civilizations. We see no roads, no ruins, no artificial materials, no trash, still no fossils, etc.

The missing water and atmosphere left Mars very likely due to the lack of a magnetic field. The lack of a magnetic field caused a slow loss the fluids. It was not sudden. Bombardment by space rocks also caused the loss to happen.

http://science.time.com/2013/07/23/revealed-how-mars-lost-its-atmosphere/

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Mars’ modern atmosphere is only 1% the density of Earth‘s, but the planet’s watery phase is believed to have lasted for the first billion of its 4.5 billion years, which means its air must have been around that long too. But things were never likely to stay that way. Mars has only half Earth’s diameter, 11% its mass and 38% its gravity, making it easy for upper layers of the original atmosphere to have boiled away into the vacuum of space and been blasted out by meteor hits. And that cycle would build on itself: the thinner the air became, the easier it would be for space rocks to hit the ground, unleashing still more explosive energy and, in effect, blowing still more holes in the sky.

At the time of the loss of the watery phase, 3.5Bya the Earth had only the earliest simplest life forms - bacteria. It had just started to poison our air with oxygen.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_evolutionary_history_of_life

 

[JesseCuster]

2 hours ago, Dyna said:

There is no way to prove either way. People who jump to conclusions I can't fathom.

So you say Mars never had an advanced civilization, what a childish remark. Clearly something major disrupted Mars and they admit finally that it once had the same seas and rivers and lakes we do here.

1. You don't need to positively state that Mars never had an advanced civilization in order to dismiss this story as clearly fraudulent or deluded.  Even if you give credence to ancient civilizations on Mars, that doesn't mean that you have to take seriously every kook who claims silly things like being the reincarnation of someone who lived on Mars and who makes very specific claims about life on Mars.

2. There's simply no evidence whatsoever of ancient civilisations on Mars.  Not only is there no evidence, the lack of evidence in this case is evidence that it never happened, because Mars has been mapped to an incredibly high level of resolution and nothing whatsoever has turned up as evidence of any sort of advanced civilization in Mars's past, and you'd expect that kind of thing to leave quite apparent evidence on the surface.  Unless you're going to start inventing ad hoc excuses for why such evidence, which should exist, doesn't.  Like it's been wiped out by some disaster (for which there's also no evidence).  Or it was beneath the surface, which is just another made up story trying to brush the lack of evidence under the carpet.

Seriously, why is there any reason to take this story seriously at all?  The news is full of silly stuff like this and the best response is to point and laugh at it.

[jaylemurph]

10 hours ago, Dyna said:

There is no way to prove either way. People who jump to conclusions I can't fathom.

So you say Mars never had an advanced civilization, what a childish remark. Clearly something major disrupted Mars and they admit finally that it once had the same seas and rivers and lakes we do here.

So you're saying a thing for which not a shred of evidence exists occurred in a way you can't explain and had results you don't bother to share is "clear"?

That's obviously some strange new usage of the word clear with which I'm unfamiliar.

--Jaylemurph

 

[The Silver Thong]

On 11/6/2017 at 3:45 PM, acute said:

What we need is a gigantic finger, to tickle the Sphinx behind the ears.

With a small edit I could make that post rated R 

I'm going to coin a saying maybe it's been said before but wth. Proof with no proof is not proof at all but an assumption based on lack of proof.

 

[Piney]

Why are people still discussing this worthless turd?

[Rlyeh]

On ‎10‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 4:41 AM, Dyna said:

There is no way to prove either way. People who jump to conclusions I can't fathom.

Sure you can, for starters the lack of intelligent life on mars.

 

On ‎10‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 4:41 AM, Dyna said:

So you say Mars never had an advanced civilization, what a childish remark. Clearly something major disrupted Mars and they admit finally that it once had the same seas and rivers and lakes we do here.

You yourself just jumped to a conclusion, although an asinine one.

[Kenemet]

On 11/7/2017 at 8:06 AM, khol said:

Biology I believe is discovering that genetic memory, epigenetics?   can play a role in cases like this. It also explains peoples claims of past lives ect. I know people who suffer from PTSD for example can also pass the effects onto there offspring and future generations. Outlandish claims from children or anyone really could be the result of mechanisms such as this

That's not how epigenetics works... and anything that lived on Mars could not survive here on Earth.  It would be like putting a Terran on Venus without special equipment.  They'd die and their bodies would corrode quickly (Mars has an atmosphere that's 95% carbon dioxide and 3% nitrogen and is 1/100th the density of Earth's atmosphere, which has 78% nitrogen and 21% oxygen.

[Amanda Evans]

He had me convinced until he mentioned The Sphinx...

It would make a great film.

[khol]

7 hours ago, Kenemet said:

That's not how epigenetics works... and anything that lived on Mars could not survive here on Earth.  It would be like putting a Terran on Venus without special equipment.  They'd die and their bodies would corrode quickly (Mars has an atmosphere that's 95% carbon dioxide and 3% nitrogen and is 1/100th the density of Earth's atmosphere, which has 78% nitrogen and 21% oxygen.

? .. Epigenics may be wrong term. Im just referring how trauma parents have experienced can have effects in there offspring..sometimes manifesting in false memories or what ever. Its just speculation

Edited November 13, 2017 by khol

[jaylemurph]

37 minutes ago, khol said:

? .. Epigenics may be wrong term. Im just referring how trauma parents have experienced can have effects in there offspring..sometimes manifesting in false memories or what ever. Its just speculation

...isn't that the theory of Lamarkian evolution? As in the theory that Darwin's idea of Natural Selection replaced more than 100 years ago?

--Jaylemurph

[khol]

Could be     insert yawn here    the OP is quite silly actually and Im making run for it..  cheers

[Kenemet]

2 hours ago, khol said:

? .. Epigenics may be wrong term. Im just referring how trauma parents have experienced can have effects in there offspring..sometimes manifesting in false memories or what ever. Its just speculation

That doesn't happen, actually.  Trauma can shape the parent's behavior and that affects the child.   But adoption records and twin studies have shown that events in an adult's life don't shape their children genetically or behaviorally UNLESS the parent has made it a part of the environment.

[khol]

9 hours ago, Kenemet said:

That doesn't happen, actually.  Trauma can shape the parent's behavior and that affects the child.   But adoption records and twin studies have shown that events in an adult's life don't shape their children genetically or behaviorally UNLESS the parent has made it a part of the environment.

this is what Im referring to    have a good day

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/aug/21/study-of-holocaust-survivors-finds-trauma-passed-on-to-childrens

[acute]

On ‎07‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 5:10 PM, I'mConvinced said:

The mechanism clogged with wax.

Maybe if we borrow those huge speakers from South Korea, we can wake the Sphinx with some loud propaganda.

[Kenemet]

6 hours ago, khol said:

this is what Im referring to    have a good day

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/aug/21/study-of-holocaust-survivors-finds-trauma-passed-on-to-childrens

(correct link: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/aug/21/study-of-holocaust-survivors-finds-trauma-passed-on-to-childrens-genes )

I see a few weaknesses in the study... mainly that the children of trauma victims were parented by the trauma victim themselves.  This would be social, not genetic.  And while the mouse study is interesting, the mice have controlled breeding...humans do not.  

See followup article in The Guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/science/blog/2015/sep/11/why-im-sceptical-about-the-idea-of-genetically-inherited-trauma-epigenetics

[LucidElement]

On 11/6/2017 at 6:43 PM, Nuclear Wessel said:

He was just likely a very smart kid with an overactive imagination.

how do you imagine facts? It explains he knew things that weren't even taught to him yet, accurate details about things, knowledge of space.

Edited November 14, 2017 by LucidElement

[jaylemurph]

8 hours ago, LucidElement said:

how do you imagine facts? It explains he knew things that weren't even taught to him yet, accurate details about things, knowledge of space.

...because no child, ever, in the history of the species has lied.

And no parent, ever, would play along in order to cash in.

And if we restrict ourselves to a universe where those things are true, we *can* understand what's happening. Because there is literally no possibility of the first two things happening, right?

--Jaylemurph

[Kenemet]

8 hours ago, LucidElement said:

how do you imagine facts? It explains he knew things that weren't even taught to him yet, accurate details about things, knowledge of space.

But they're not details that are unknown to humans.  It would be far more compelling if he offered details that we didn't know about and we confirmed them later.

And his biography and background are sketchy at best.  Nothing was said about what kind of books he liked and tv shows and what his friends liked.  Knowledge comes from many places.

[jaylemurph]

1 hour ago, Kenemet said:

But they're not details that are unknown to humans.  It would be far more compelling if he offered details that we didn't know about and we confirmed them later.

And his biography and background are sketchy at best.  Nothing was said about what kind of books he liked and tv shows and what his friends liked.  Knowledge comes from many places.

...I've sort of secretly wanted him to pass out information that sounds correct, but is actually from Doctor Who or Blake's 7 or something: "On Mars, they use laser guns with telephone cords to attach to their power-source" or "Our ham-synthesis machines are fuelled with artron energy."

--Jaylemurph

[LucidElement]

5 hours ago, jaylemurph said:

...because no child, ever, in the history of the species has lied.

And no parent, ever, would play along in order to cash in.

And if we restrict ourselves to a universe where those things are true, we *can* understand what's happening. Because there is literally no possibility of the first two things happening, right?

--Jaylemurph

So are you saying that we are the only life that exists in the universe ? That we are the only galaxy of humans in the whole place? And I don’t mean bacteria being found , I’m talking about other life like us. Could Jaylemurph be smarter then hawking and disprove his theories ? 

Edited November 15, 2017 by LucidElement

[LucidElement]

3 hours ago, jaylemurph said:

...I've sort of secretly wanted him to pass out information that sounds correct, but is actually from Doctor Who or Blake's 7 or something: "On Mars, they use laser guns with telephone cords to attach to their power-source" or "Our ham-synthesis machines are fuelled with artron energy."

--Jaylemurph

 

5 hours ago, Kenemet said:

But they're not details that are unknown to humans.  It would be far more compelling if he offered details that we didn't know about and we confirmed them later.

And his biography and background are sketchy at best.  Nothing was said about what kind of books he liked and tv shows and what his friends liked.  Knowledge comes from many places.

Something like this ?? ..look I’m not saying the kid was from mars but it’s hell of an interesting read.... he is offering details below that you didn’t know and only or confirm , you would clearly have to wait till later. Like when humans truly explore Mars. So I guess you get 1-2,

 

”He insists there is a lot more to be discovered on Earth pointing to the Great Pyramid of Giza which he says hides big secrets.

“The human life will change when the Sphinx is opened, it has an opening mechanism somewhere behind the ear; I do not remember exactly,” claims Boriska.

Boriska explains the catastrophe that happened on Mars was caused by a nuclear war waged between the “beings” living there.

There were only a few survivors, he claims, who constructed protection lodges and built new weapons.

The boy states the Martians breathe carbon dioxide and if they sometimes come to our planet they would have to breathe out from pipes filled with it.””

LINK: https://www.************/news/4867116/russian-boy-born-on-mars-boriska-kipriyanovich/

not sure why “the sun” news article is bleeping out ? Dang mars kids lol.

Edited November 15, 2017 by LucidElement