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Car tax evasion triples since no paper disc

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The number of unlicensed vehicles on the road has tripled since the paper tax disc was abolished, government figures show.

The data, published every two years, shows that the government potentially lost out on £107m from 755,000 unlicensed vehicles last year.

The RAC said the decision to get rid of the paper tax disc three years ago has proved "costly".

The measure was meant to have saved the Treasury £10m a year, the RAC said.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42009111

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On those numbers and facts the Government should reverse the decision, it makes sense if the treasury is losing £100million. I mean its worth spending £10Million to gain £100million. (VED & Fuel duty raise £38Billion a year for the Gov)

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So England`s car tax system is inadequate, I would say.

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46 minutes ago, toast said:

So England`s car tax system is inadequate, I would say.

I thought the English and German system where the same?

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3 minutes ago, stevewinn said:

I thought the English and German system where the same?

Er, no. Here, when you register a car you have to give the related authority an authorization to debit for your bank account and this authority is debiting the tax every 12 month (no1/3/6 periods possible). If the money isnt available on pay day on your account, the party begins. First steps are 2 reminder letters from the German Customs Authority (they handle the car tax dunning process here) within 6 weeks or so. If the tax isnt payed then, the German Customs Authority informs the vehicle registration office. This office will send a letter with a last time limit, if not payed in time, this office will inform another office which will send out agents to the adress of the car owner and if they find the car, they remove the registration seals from the number plates and sometimes seize the car. And as we are talking about Germany here, there is a catch 22 in addition. When the seals are removed, the car isnt regisered anymore. Unregistered cars are not allowed to park in public areas, so an additional ticket for the parking of an unregistered car will be created.  After that nightmare the owner have to pay the tax and all fines first, before he can register his car again.

PS: no, the text isnt a personal experience.

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14 minutes ago, toast said:

Er, no. Here, when you register a car you have to give the related authority an authorization to debit for your bank account and this authority is debiting the tax every 12 month (no1/3/6 periods possible). If the money isnt available on pay day on your account, the party begins. First steps are 2 reminder letters from the German Customs Authority (they handle the car tax dunning process here) within 6 weeks or so. If the tax isnt payed then, the German Customs Authority informs the vehicle registration office. This office will send a letter with a last time limit, if not payed in time, this office will inform another office which will send out agents to the adress of the car owner and if they find the car, they remove the registration seals from the number plates and sometimes seize the car. And as we are talking about Germany here, there is a catch 22 in addition. When the seals are removed, the car isnt regisered anymore. Unregistered cars are not allowed to park in public areas, so an additional ticket for the parking of an unregistered car will be created.  After that nightmare the owner have to pay the tax and all fines first, before he can register his car again.

PS: no, the text isnt a personal experience.

I like your little disclaimer at the bottom, :lol:

That system you describe isn't to dissimilar to here in the UK.

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 There is also a lot of cars roaming about our roads without Insurance , if the Police stop you ,and you have no Insurance  and your car is not taxed, your car is confiscated and you walk home apart from a court appearance , this can be seen on the Police Interceptors TV program any day of the week .

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damn, your system are nothing but rip offs. ours is so much better.

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In Montana, USA, we have these little square, weather proof stickers that we must affix to our license plate. One plate, the rear, in our case.

It has the current month/year of registration, and a series of numbers presumably to connect it directly with the vehicle.

As of last year we can not even get these stickers unless there is proof proof of insurance... Like other States have had for years.

 

 

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On 11/16/2017 at 5:05 PM, Still Waters said:

The number of unlicensed vehicles on the road has tripled since the paper tax disc was abolished, government figures show.

The data, published every two years, shows that the government potentially lost out on £107m from 755,000 unlicensed vehicles last year.

The RAC said the decision to get rid of the paper tax disc three years ago has proved "costly".

The measure was meant to have saved the Treasury £10m a year, the RAC said.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42009111

Yeah... I mean... gosh.. what a surprise. Who could have anticipated THAT :P:D 

Of course, if the car doesn't have a valid "tax disk" (virtually speaking), then its insurance is also invalid. So the Excise has stabbed itself in the foot twice !

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