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Codemonger

It wasn't mathematically possible, Trump was chosen in order to win for various reasons. Mankind has such tunnel vision, they can only see ahead in the direction their headlights shine and whats in front of them as they drive. 

My website is up and freely available google if you will - free as in I am promoting nothing, and giving whatever away for free, frankly it doesn't bother me: search for Chris Chunick activation function ... It's nothing special .. 

Your an extremely disingenuous and a rude person, which is exactly the people I would prefer not to be around or associate with. I actually prefer the mind and intelligence of Russians or Chinese more the western people, I find them very pompous and irritating.

Everything in the West is motivated by Money and Control, unless a World War breaks out then people somehow band together to create some ingenious and innovative things. 

God Bless!

 

 

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RoofGardener
8 minutes ago, Codemonger said:

It wasn't mathematically possible, Trump was chosen in order to win for various reasons. Mankind has such tunnel vision, they can only see ahead in the direction their headlights shine and whats in front of them as they drive.

I can't address your other theories, Codemonger, but I would challenge the above statement. There is no mathematics behind the election, other than counting responses in surveys and polls, and they where simply wrong. People said one thing to the pollsters (possibly because they where afraid that their answers would be leaked to employers etc, and they would suffer retribution), but - in the privacy of the polling booth - voted for their actual intentions.

Mathematics is neutral; if you feed in the "wrong" numbers, then you will get a "wrong" output. That is what happened in the presidential election. Trumps win was "impossible" according to the maths, but only because the input figures where wrong. Don't blame the maths, or aliens, or whatever. Blame the polling organisations.

(or perhaps more accurately, blame the viciousness of Trumps opponents for creating a 'climate of fear' in which people gave the pollsters "safe" answers, and not their actual voting intentions. )

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Herr Falukorv

I dont believe anyone will come and visit us the odds are just abysmal..

If we were able to send out starships that could reach other stars wouldnt we send them towards the center of the galaxy??
There are more stars towards the center and they are closer to each other.
So the odds of finding life are better,

Why travel around here in the outskirts?


youareheregalaxy.jpg

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Codemonger
4 minutes ago, RoofGardener said:

I can't address your other theories, Codemonger, but I would challenge the above statement. There is no mathematics behind the election, other than counting responses in surveys and polls, and they where simply wrong. People said one thing to the pollsters (possibly because they where afraid that their answers would be leaked to employers etc, and they would suffer retribution), but - in the privacy of the polling booth - voted for their actual intentions.

Mathematics is neutral; if you feed in the "wrong" numbers, then you will get a "wrong" output. That is what happened in the presidential election. Trumps win was "impossible" according to the maths, but only because the input figures where wrong. Don't blame the maths, or aliens, or whatever. Blame the polling organisations.

(or perhaps more accurately, blame the viciousness of Trumps opponents for creating a 'climate of fear' in which people gave the pollsters "safe" answers, and not their actual voting intentions. )

That's not true, mathematically Hillary was supposed to win - there was a reason Trump was chosen, and definately not the 'Chosen One' .. but chosen. Hardly simple politics, no different than the math surrounding a month of Hollywood stars coming out about sexual abuse etc. and can't hold it in :) - hardly a movement. 

Mathematics is not neutral at least probabilities, ultimately there is an equal chance of something happening and I can tell you your not in charge of that last roll of the dice.

"It's the Economy Stupid" ...

God Bless!

 

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Codemonger
6 minutes ago, Herr Falukorv said:

I dont believe anyone will come and visit us the odds are just abysmal..

If we were able to send out starships that could reach other stars wouldnt we send them towards the center of the galaxy??
There are more stars towards the center and they are closer to each other.
So the odds of finding life are better,

Why travel around here in the outskirts?


youareheregalaxy.jpg

I'm glad your questioning things with Reasonability ... If you think, at this point in your technological stage you are already searching for life elsewhere  - then guess what has already been done with advanced civilizations, they found this planet long ago. 

God Bless!

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I'mConvinced
4 minutes ago, Codemonger said:

That's not true, mathematically Hillary was supposed to win - there was a reason Trump was chosen, and definately not the 'Chosen One' .. but chosen. Hardly simple politics, no different than the math surrounding a month of Hollywood stars coming out about sexual abuse etc. and can't hold it in :) - hardly a movement. 

Mathematics is not neutral at least probabilities, ultimately there is an equal chance of something happening and I can tell you your not in charge of that last roll of the dice.

"It's the Economy Stupid" ...

God Bless!

 

You clearly do not understand the term 'mathematically impossible' and in fact I'm beginning to wonder if you even understand what you yourself write in your posts.

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RoofGardener
13 minutes ago, Codemonger said:

That's not true, mathematically Hillary was supposed to win - there was a reason Trump was chosen, and definately not the 'Chosen One' .. but chosen. Hardly simple politics, no different than the math surrounding a month of Hollywood stars coming out about sexual abuse etc. and can't hold it in :) - hardly a movement. 

Mathematics is not neutral at least probabilities, ultimately there is an equal chance of something happening and I can tell you your not in charge of that last roll of the dice.

"It's the Economy Stupid" ...

God Bless!

 

This is not "mathmatics", this is just counting the results from surveys and opinion polls. We're going round in circles. Nobody was "chosen", other than by the electorate. The result was unexpected purely because people where uncomfortable with exhibiting pro-Trump feelings in the surveys, so they lied, and hence rendered the polls unreliable.

Garbage in, garbage out. No mystery.

Now, back to the asteroid. I must admit I was intrigued. Going back to PROPER mathematics; is there an explanation as to how this "cylinder/splinter" isn't tumbling over its long axis ?

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Herr Falukorv
On 13/12/2017 at 3:24 PM, Codemonger said:

I'm glad your questioning things with Reasonability ... If you think, at this point in your technological stage you are already searching for life elsewhere  - then guess what has already been done with advanced civilizations, they found this planet long ago. 
 

Of course we should have reasonable doubt about visitors from other stars.
There might be species out there capable of interstellar travel but I dont think they have been here.
If so they are long since gone.
As I wrote in my earlier post its better to go for the center,

Theories or stories about them still being here is so ridiculous,
Our bacteria flora would probably be so alien to them that they would all die horribly.

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clare256

It look suspiciously like the "whale probe" from Star Trek (Vouage Home?)

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seeder
8 minutes ago, RoofGardener said:

 is there an explanation as to how this "cylinder/splinter" isn't tumbling over its long axis ?


 

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Oumuamua is tumbling

The discovery of 1I/2017 U1 ('Oumuamua) has provided the first glimpse of a planetesimal born in another planetary system. This interloper exhibits a variable colour, within a range that is broadly consistent with local small bodies such as the P/D type asteroids, Jupiter Trojans, and dynamically excited Kuiper Belt Objects. 1I/'Oumuamua appears unusually elongated in shape, with an axial ratio exceeding 5:1. Rotation period estimates are inconsistent and varied, with reported values between 6.9 and 8.3 hours. Here we analyse all reliable optical photometry reported to date. No single rotation period can explain the exhibited brightness variations. Rather, 1I/'Oumuamua appears to be in an excited rotational state undergoing Non-Principal Axis (NPA) rotation, or tumbling.

https://arxiv.org/abs/1711.11530


 

 

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geraldnewfie
On 12/12/2017 at 11:45 AM, Codemonger said:

 

Probably True - whoever 'they' are. Unfortunately humans are notorious for controling and keeping secrets - Look at American Politics right now and all the secrets coming out that someone in 'Charge' decided to keep wrapped up away from the public eye. Maybe these things will Usher in an Era of Transparency. 

I know if I was an extraterrestrial and I knew how greedy, lying, thieving, controlling, and manipulating people are I would want nothing to do with them and would be in hiding lol.

God Bless! 

ohh, dont say that on this page, most amercians believe their government always tells the truth!!!! their gov is the one and only true power! :P

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geraldnewfie
On 12/12/2017 at 11:44 AM, Will Due said:

 

They?

Who's "they?"

 

 

the people is tracking and listening to this!! most people who tried to release info was either killed or their career destroyed. Gov will step in and say no its just a rock, now watch CNN for your real news, watch kim kardasian do something stupid

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stereologist
On 12/13/2017 at 10:21 AM, Codemonger said:

That's not true, mathematically Hillary was supposed to win - there was a reason Trump was chosen, and definately not the 'Chosen One' .. but chosen. Hardly simple politics, no different than the math surrounding a month of Hollywood stars coming out about sexual abuse etc. and can't hold it in :) - hardly a movement. 

Mathematics is not neutral at least probabilities, ultimately there is an equal chance of something happening and I can tell you your not in charge of that last roll of the dice.

"It's the Economy Stupid" ...

God Bless!

 

Mathematically Hillary lost. Your post is alike the whiny losers that complain their football team lost the game despite playing a better game.

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Codemonger
2 hours ago, stereologist said:

Mathematically Hillary lost. Your post is alike the whiny losers that complain their football team lost the game despite playing a better game.

That makes no sense, I live in Canada and Trump was my pick well before the election started. Won a game I couldn’t even attend. 

God Bless!

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stereologist
8 hours ago, Codemonger said:

That makes no sense, I live in Canada and Trump was my pick well before the election started. Won a game I couldn’t even attend. 

God Bless!

You live in Canada and do not understand that the popular vote is not what elects presidents. That's okay. I'm from the US and I do know about McDonald and Canadian confederation in PEI.

The US Constitution grants powers to different groups. It grants the election of the president to the states. Each state decides how to choose representatives to pick the president. Most states use a winner takes all method. Hillary got less state votes than Trump. She lost. The news was full of whiners after the election that a different method should h ave been chosen to elect the president. The rules for the election of the president are straightforward. The thing to remember is that popular vote applies only to a state and not the country as a whole.

PS. Love traveling in Canada. Entienne Cartier house is all decorated for the holidays at this time of year in case you are near Montreal.

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Myles
13 hours ago, geraldnewfie said:

ohh, dont say that on this page, most amercians believe their government always tells the truth!!!! their gov is the one and only true power! :P

Were you serious on this part?   

 

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Codemonger
2 hours ago, stereologist said:

You live in Canada and do not understand that the popular vote is not what elects presidents. That's okay. I'm from the US and I do know about McDonald and Canadian confederation in PEI.

The US Constitution grants powers to different groups. It grants the election of the president to the states. Each state decides how to choose representatives to pick the president. Most states use a winner takes all method. Hillary got less state votes than Trump. She lost. The news was full of whiners after the election that a different method should h ave been chosen to elect the president. The rules for the election of the president are straightforward. The thing to remember is that popular vote applies only to a state and not the country as a whole.

PS. Love traveling in Canada. Entienne Cartier house is all decorated for the holidays at this time of year in case you are near Montreal.

I've watched every presidential election since 1988.  I don't follow Canadian politics, except in the last two months when I found out how bad our Prime Minister has been. I prefer the American system, it is much more transparent and inclusive of citizens. 

God Bless!

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Black Monk
On 18/12/2017 at 5:21 PM, Codemonger said:

I've watched every presidential election since 1988.  I don't follow Canadian politics, except in the last two months when I found out how bad our Prime Minister has been. I prefer the American system, it is much more transparent and inclusive of citizens. 

God Bless!

Give me the British/Canadian system over the American one.

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Black Monk
On 13/12/2017 at 3:14 PM, Herr Falukorv said:

I dont believe anyone will come and visit us the odds are just abysmal..

If we were able to send out starships that could reach other stars wouldnt we send them towards the center of the galaxy??
There are more stars towards the center and they are closer to each other.
So the odds of finding life are better,

Why travel around here in the outskirts?


youareheregalaxy.jpg

According to British scientists, you're wrong. Life is probably more likely towards the edge of our Milky Way galaxy than towards the centre.

To support life as we know it, planets must have liquid water and orbit in the right place in their solar systems, not too close and not too far from their star. Similarly, life will not emerge or survive for long near the centers of galaxies. Here, the high density of stars means that at any given time several could be exploding, frying off a planet’s ozone layer and exposing any surface life to deadly ultraviolet rays.

So in the new study, researchers led by physicist Duncan Forgan of the University of St. Andrews in Fife, U.K., focused on the regions far from a galaxy’s center. They used computer simulations to model an entire Milky Way–like galaxy and its neighbors, the Andromeda and Triangulum galaxies. They then simulated the distribution of gas, stars, and planetary systems within those whorls of stars. Finally, they allowed these galaxies to evolve over billions of years, while mapping out their evolving habitable zones. “We’re the first to look at how the history of galaxies affects their habitability,” Forgan says.

For every type of star in the simulation, Forgan and his colleagues estimated the probability that terrestrial planets would form, some of which might be Earth–like or might be as inhospitable as Mercury. They also estimated the chance that a giant planet as large as Neptune would form near the star, as it would disrupt potential earths that could have assembled there. Then they analyzed the likelihood of short-lived life-friendly worlds that happened to be in stellar systems too close to dying, exploding stars.

The team’s simulations show, perhaps not surprisingly, that potentially habitable planets are more likely to remain so if they form in areas far from dense conglomerations of stars, where more supernova explosions occur. The results indicate that for the Milky Way and other spiral galaxies, the most dangerous regions are in the galactic centers, whereas the more diffuse spiral arms pose fewer hazards and are therefore more hospitable to life. Earth lies near the inner edge of this habitable zone.

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/12/most-likely-spots-life-milky-way

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Codemonger
4 hours ago, Black Monk said:

Give me the British/Canadian system over the American one.

Never. I would love to see a mix though. The problem with the Canadian Parliamentary system is it is not setup for crooked politicians. When someone steps into Office in Canada dressing like little red riding hood and then reveals themselves to be the Big Bad Wolf - the Canadian system allows for no recourse or transparency.  The American system does a much better job of this, ultimately every vote Counts - which is very empowering and liberating for real Change. 

Like I said, I would love to see a Mix.

God Bless!

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