Colt Storm Posted December 18, 2017 #1 Share Posted December 18, 2017 I didn't see this posted yet Quote (Reuters) - An Amtrak passenger train derailed on Monday during its inaugural run along a faster route through Washington state, sending part of the train crashing down onto a major highway and killing an unknown number of passengers, authorities said. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-washington-train/amtrak-train-on-new-route-derails-in-washington-state-killing-several-idUSKBN1EC239 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kismit Posted December 18, 2017 #2 Share Posted December 18, 2017 This is an abssolute tragedy. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Grey Posted December 18, 2017 #3 Share Posted December 18, 2017 7 minutes ago, Colt Storm said: I didn't see this posted yet https://www.reuters.com/article/us-washington-train/amtrak-train-on-new-route-derails-in-washington-state-killing-several-idUSKBN1EC239 Holy smokes. That's a helluva way to finish a project Those last moments on the train must have been terrifying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted December 18, 2017 #4 Share Posted December 18, 2017 (edited) Quote Seventy-seven people were transported to hospitals... Approximately 78 passengers and five crew members were aboard the train Only 8 not in hospital then... Edited December 18, 2017 by Setton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little_dreamer Posted December 18, 2017 #5 Share Posted December 18, 2017 "The derailment occurred on the first day Amtrak trains began using a new inland route between the cities of Tacoma and Olympia, part of a project to reduce travel time...Monday’s train.. was the first to run along the new route, which uses tracks owned by a local commuter line. " Well that's not good. I wonder who is going to get blamed for this one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted December 18, 2017 #6 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Just now, little_dreamer said: . I wonder who is going to get blamed for this one. not clear yet. could be human error, or could be poor construction, or could be design flaw. this was brand new route. but if in doubt, blame trump 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted December 18, 2017 #7 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Amtrak Cascade Rollout 2017 How ironic! ...and sad... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted December 18, 2017 #8 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Dang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted December 18, 2017 #9 Share Posted December 18, 2017 always sad that anyone dies near xmas...especially when it wasnt their time... the poor families left behind 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted December 18, 2017 #10 Share Posted December 18, 2017 I’m not gonna say anything yet, but there might be much more to this story. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt Storm Posted December 18, 2017 Author #11 Share Posted December 18, 2017 It seems not everyone was in agreement on this from day one. Quote The city of Lakewood sued the Washington State Department of Transportation in 2013 seeking to halt the project, arguing it had not undergone sufficient environmental review. The city lost its case in part because the law preempts cities and towns from regulating rail lines. Lakewood Mayor Don Anderson said his city had fought against the new rail line, which moved fast passenger trains onto what had been a less-used freight line. “I didn’t predict a time, but I did say somebody is going to get killed,” Anderson said in an interview Monday. “I hoped that wasn’t right.” https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/transportation/lakewood-mayor-predicted-new-amtrak-rail-line-would-lead-to-fatalities/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.ZZ. Posted December 18, 2017 #12 Share Posted December 18, 2017 29 minutes ago, preacherman76 said: I’m not gonna say anything yet, but there might be much more to this story. Yes, the internet is on fire with theories. I just hope that they are wrong. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranormal Panther Posted December 18, 2017 #13 Share Posted December 18, 2017 2 hours ago, preacherman76 said: I’m not gonna say anything yet, but there might be much more to this story. I might know what you mean by that. One or more groups mention sabotaging public transportation as a form of political and/or social protest. Individuals can draw their own conclusions as to the reference. It wouldn't surprise me if they're linked to it because they have a documented propensity for violence, as well as crimes of all kinds. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted December 19, 2017 #14 Share Posted December 19, 2017 10 hours ago, preacherman76 said: I’m not gonna say anything yet, but there might be much more to this story. 8 hours ago, Paranormal Panther said: I might know what you mean by that. One or more groups mention sabotaging public transportation as a form of political and/or social protest. Individuals can draw their own conclusions as to the reference. It wouldn't surprise me if they're linked to it because they have a documented propensity for violence, as well as crimes of all kinds. Or it could be a train going into a 30 mph bend at 80 mph. But no, blame it on your political opponents. It's the new American way... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitterRose Posted December 19, 2017 #15 Share Posted December 19, 2017 It's disgusting that people are immediately using this tragedy as an opportunity to spew political propaganda. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted December 19, 2017 #16 Share Posted December 19, 2017 11 hours ago, Colt Storm said: It seems not everyone was in agreement on this from day one. https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/transportation/lakewood-mayor-predicted-new-amtrak-rail-line-would-lead-to-fatalities/ what he was talking about was level crossing collisions, which are very common and was in fact nothing at all to do with what happened here, so a rather disgraceful piece of told-you-so-ing from the good Mayor. Has he blamed Trump? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted December 19, 2017 #17 Share Posted December 19, 2017 9 hours ago, Paranormal Panther said: I might know what you mean by that. One or more groups mention sabotaging public transportation as a form of political and/or social protest. Individuals can draw their own conclusions as to the reference. It wouldn't surprise me if they're linked to it because they have a documented propensity for violence, as well as crimes of all kinds. holy crap, are you trying to insinuate what I think you're trying to insinuate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted December 19, 2017 #18 Share Posted December 19, 2017 37 minutes ago, Manfred von Dreidecker said: holy crap, are you trying to insinuate what I think you're trying to insinuate? Panther lives in his own little reality where 'the commies' lurk behind every door plotting to overthrow the government. They're easily recognised though - they're anyone who disagrees with him. Must be quite terrifying for him. Bless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kismit Posted December 19, 2017 #19 Share Posted December 19, 2017 1 hour ago, ChaosRose said: It's disgusting that people are immediately using this tragedy as an opportunity to spew political propaganda. I could not agree more Chaos Rose. I was quite shocked to come in to the thread and see it had gone this way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeder Posted December 19, 2017 #20 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Confirmed Quote Bella Dinh-Zarr said the 12-carriage train had engines at the front and rear. The back engine's data recording had been retrieved, she said, and "preliminary indications are that the train was travelling at 80mph on a 30mph track". http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42408624 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted December 19, 2017 #21 Share Posted December 19, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Setton said: Or it could be a train going into a 30 mph bend at 80 mph. But no, blame it on your political opponents. It's the new American way... No you are right. People openly plotting to take out trains in the exact area this happened isn’t at all worth mentioning Politics has nothing to do with me bringing this up. I’d think it was worth mentioning no matter what group was making terroristic threats to our railroad system Edited December 19, 2017 by preacherman76 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted December 19, 2017 #22 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Just now, preacherman76 said: No you are right. People openly plotting to take out trains in the exact area this happened isn’t at all worth mentioning Not when the cause is already plain to say see, no. Just keep sowing discord every chance you get... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted December 19, 2017 #23 Share Posted December 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Setton said: Not when the cause is already plain to say see, no. Just keep sowing discord every chance you get... They were using tracks they normally didn’t. Could have easily been a mistake. Good thing they were having a mass casualty drill in the area at the time. Like with damn near every major terror attack in America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setton Posted December 19, 2017 #24 Share Posted December 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, preacherman76 said: They were using tracks they normally didn’t. Could have easily been a mistake. Good thing they were having a mass casualty drill in the area at the time. Like with damn near every major terror attack in America. Exactly. A mistake. But, no, you have to jump on to blaming some evil plot. Thanks for supporting my argument though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted December 19, 2017 #25 Share Posted December 19, 2017 9 minutes ago, Setton said: Exactly. A mistake. But, no, you have to jump on to blaming some evil plot. Thanks for supporting my argument though. First I didn't make an argument, I was just making mention of possible relevant information. I didn't blame anyone for anything. And what I meant by mistake was, they could have been trying to derail a different train, like they openly claim they want to do, and didn't realize there was a passenger train riding on those tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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