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Elon Musk really is sending his car to Mars

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Vox

Kudos to Musk.

It�s stunts like this that spark interest and also captures corporate $$$.

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GiganticManchild

Red? I was hoping for blue. Blue car on the red planet :3

 

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IBelieveWhatIWant
2 hours ago, GiganticManchild said:

Red? I was hoping for blue. Blue car on the red planet :3

 

It's only red because is a proven fact that red cars go faster. Elon just wants the car to arrive in the quickest possible time :)

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pallidin

Best check it first... Hoffa might be in the trunk.

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seanjo

Again, what a waste of money, surely they could put something more productive into orbit like a really hi-res camera, and other scientific detectors...

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qxcontinuum

have someone told this guy that the Minotaur rocket and fuel burnt to achieve his goal, will be the equivalent of a few thousand gas powered vehicles polluting Earth in one year ? 

Just another ridiculous rich men caprice ! 

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goodgodno
4 hours ago, qxcontinuum said:

have someone told this guy that the Minotaur rocket and fuel burnt to achieve his goal, will be the equivalent of a few thousand gas powered vehicles polluting Earth in one year ? 

Just another ridiculous rich men caprice ! 

Well I'm happy to take a few thousand grunts off the road in exchange for this. Far more interesting.

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Emmisal

Elon never stops being crazy. That's why I like him.

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Waspie_Dwarf
18 hours ago, seanjo said:

Again, what a waste of money,

What money is being wasted exactly? I'll answer that for you... NONE.

This launch is a test flight, and by Musk's own admission quite likely to fail. Most first flights of a new rocket do not carry a payload but instead carry ballast to simulate one. Musk has just chosen a Tesla car as ballast instead of the more traditional concrete weight (see this post in a previous thread for a more detailed explanation).

18 hours ago, seanjo said:

surely they could put something more productive into orbit like a really hi-res camera, and other scientific detectors...

You can't just put a hi-res camera into orbit. You need two way communications to up-load commands and down-load the images. You need highly paid technicians to send the commands, yet more highly paid scientists to decipher the images. You need a ground network to transmit and receive the signals . The camera will need to be pointed precisely so you need thrusters and a system for detecting the camera's orientation. The camera will need power so you need a power source. What you end up with is an expensive imaging satellite. Putting such a satellite on a test flight likely to fail really would be a potential waste of money.

Besides which what are you going to image exactly? It is being sent on an elliptical orbit which will take it close to that of Mars, but for the vast majority of time it will be nowhere near anything it can image. Now that WOULD be a waste of money.

18 hours ago, qxcontinuum said:

have someone told this guy that the Minotaur rocket and fuel burnt to achieve his goal, will be the equivalent of a few thousand gas powered vehicles polluting Earth in one year ?

What has the Minotaur rocket got to do with it? That is a rocket made by Orbital ATK not SpaceX. As for the fuel... no additional fuel will be burnt as a result of the Tesla being included in this mission.

18 hours ago, qxcontinuum said:

Just another ridiculous rich men caprice ! 

Nonsense. Just a man who knows how to use an opportunity to get free advertising. That's why he's a billionaire and you and I aren't.

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RAyMO

I'd prefer if he would put some thought into the dashboard of his cars.

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seanjo
2 hours ago, Waspie_Dwarf said:

What money is being wasted exactly? I'll answer that for you... NONE.

This launch is a test flight, and by Musk's own admission quite likely to fail. Most first flights of a new rocket do not carry a payload but instead carry ballast to simulate one. Musk has just chosen a Tesla car as ballast instead of the more traditional concrete weight (see this post in a previous thread for a more detailed explanation).

You can't just put a hi-res camera into orbit. You need two way communications to up-load commands and down-load the images. You need highly paid technicians to send the commands, yet more highly paid scientists to decipher the images. You need a ground network to transmit and receive the signals . The camera will need to be pointed precisely so you need thrusters and a system for detecting the camera's orientation. The camera will need power so you need a power source. What you end up with is an expensive imaging satellite. Putting such a satellite on a test flight likely to fail really would be a potential waste of money.

Besides which what are you going to image exactly? It is being sent on an elliptical orbit which will take it close to that of Mars, but for the vast majority of time it will be nowhere near anything it can image. Now that WOULD be a waste of money.

What has the Minotaur rocket got to do with it? That is a rocket made by Orbital ATK not SpaceX. As for the fuel... no additional fuel will be burnt as a result of the Tesla being included in this mission.

Nonsense. Just a man who knows how to use an opportunity to get free advertising. That's why he's a billionaire and you and I aren't.

I'm sorry you've surprised me! Of all the people that I thought would be on my wavelength on this, I thought it would be you...It's a complete waste of time, money and energy. There are better things that could be done with this...full stop.

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Derek Willis
1 hour ago, seanjo said:

I'm sorry you've surprised me! Of all the people that I thought would be on my wavelength on this, I thought it would be you...It's a complete waste of time, money and energy. There are better things that could be done with this...full stop.

As Waspie and others have pointed out, this is a test-flight. There is an expectation the launch might at some point fail. So what are the "better things" that could be done? If Space-X aren't going to launch the Tesla, they are going to launch a lump of concrete ... full stop.

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toast
23 hours ago, qxcontinuum said:

have someone told this guy that the Minotaur rocket ...

Someone told you already that there is no Minotaur rocket involved.

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... and fuel burnt to achieve his goal, will be the equivalent of a few thousand gas powered vehicles polluting Earth in one year ?

Maybe you dont now yet, but also the web needs electricity. So there is a negative side effect, means, a pollution of the Earth`s environment caused by useless comments on the web, like yours, which is a multiple of the pollution amount caused by thousands of gas powered vehicles.

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seanjo
3 hours ago, Derek Willis said:

As Waspie and others have pointed out, this is a test-flight. There is an expectation the launch might at some point fail. So what are the "better things" that could be done? If Space-X aren't going to launch the Tesla, they are going to launch a lump of concrete ... full stop.

REALLY, the best thing you can think to put in orbit around Mars is a car...REALLY?

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Derek Willis
5 minutes ago, seanjo said:

REALLY, the best thing you can think to put in orbit around Mars is a car...REALLY?

I think you are deliberately missing the point. No one is going to fund an expensive "useful" payload on-board an untested rocket. So if Mister Musk wants to get some publicity for Space-X and Tesla with a stunt, then why not do it? By the way, it is Musk's and the other shareholders' money funding the launch, so what is it to you? They are not wasting the money, they are testing a rocket that will help reduce the cost of access to space, and that will benefit everyone. Would you rather he spent the $100 million on a yacht or a 100-room mansion?

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seanjo
14 minutes ago, Derek Willis said:

I think you are deliberately missing the point. No one is going to fund an expensive "useful" payload on-board an untested rocket. So if Mister Musk wants to get some publicity for Space-X and Tesla with a stunt, then why not do it? By the way, it is Musk's and the other shareholders' money funding the launch, so what is it to you? They are not wasting the money, they are testing a rocket that will help reduce the cost of access to space, and that will benefit everyone. Would you rather he spent the $100 million on a yacht or a 100-room mansion?

I'M missing the point????? This is going to cost a fortune, I'm sure there are Uni's or other scientific establishments that would love to have their pet project put in orbit around Mars.

 

What is wrong with you people......?

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toast
24 minutes ago, seanjo said:

I'M missing the point?

Yes.

 

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Waspie_Dwarf
7 hours ago, seanjo said:

I'm sorry you've surprised me! Of all the people that I thought would be on my wavelength on this, I thought it would be you...It's a complete waste of time, money and energy. There are better things that could be done with this...full stop.

I'm not on your wavelength on this because I actually understand the concept of a test flight, which you don't seem to.

You no more put a useful payload on the test flight of a rocket than you put passengers on the test flight of an airliner. The clue is in the word TEST.

2 hours ago, seanjo said:

REALLY, the best thing you can think to put in orbit around Mars is a car...REALLY?

As I have already pointed out, NOTHING is being put into orbit around Mars.

10 hours ago, Waspie_Dwarf said:

Besides which what are you going to image exactly? It is being sent on an elliptical orbit which will take it close to that of Mars, but for the vast majority of time it will be nowhere near anything it can image. 

 

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Waspie_Dwarf
2 hours ago, seanjo said:

I'M missing the point?????

Hugely.

2 hours ago, seanjo said:

What is wrong with you people......?

We suffer from something called "knowing what we are talking about".

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seanjo

OMFG...even a test launch could have use, even if it fails,

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seanjo
50 minutes ago, Waspie_Dwarf said:

 

We suffer from something called "knowing what we are talking about".

 

You've just lost my respect, carry on.

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toast
22 minutes ago, seanjo said:

OMFG...even a test launch could have use, even if it fails,

Establish your own space company with your own money and lauch what you want on the maiden flight.

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Derek Willis
1 hour ago, seanjo said:

OMFG...even a test launch could have use, even if it fails,

It does. If the flight fails, Space-X will know why it failed. They can then rectify the problem.

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Derek Willis
52 minutes ago, toast said:

Establish your own space company with your own money and lauch what you want on the maiden flight.

Preferably himself.

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