Why do people believe the bible?

[SHaYap]

8 minutes ago, Habitat said:

"incoherent absurdity", by gawd, sherapy has got you pegged !

Good for you, @Sherapy makes for a finer patron than most, you just hang on to her every word now you hear ?

Maybe one day you may succeed at making a proper Maiden Courtier of the Forum of yourself

~

[Mr Walker]

4 minutes ago, Sherapy said:

Why would I have an issue accepting others lead different lives than me? 

I have read the majority of your posts and you do brag and find humility to be a flaw. 

You brag, own it! Lol 

When could you have done all this if you were a teacher, counselor, tutor, and foster parent for 60 years, not saying you didn’t just wondering when?

 

 

Because you think I exaggerate stories from my life, when they are absolutely true, which means you have not had any similar sorts of experiences in your own life . .

Well, as a  student and a teacher, i always had 10 to 12 weeks off a year, plus long service leave accumulating at 15 days a year.  At uni i had  at least 3 months off a year.  i made the most of all my time learning and doing   And generally never had more than about 6 hours sleep a night  and often a lot less Eg last sun night i went to bed a t 3.30 and was up at 7,30  I never drank smoked; or played a lot of regular sport after  about the age of 25, so i had a lot of free time. Since 2005 to 2015 I worked only an average of 3 days a week  while taking a transition to retirement package and using a lot of my long service leave which had accumulated to over 350 days. I also had  (and used)  over 350 days of sick days available to me after my by pass

Because i entered teaching as a bonded scholarship student, aged 16, i was entitled to a lot of those benefits from  1966 onwards,  and some had accumulated before i even started teaching  

 As my dear ol dad always said,  "Government jobs don't pay the best,but they have great benefits" 

Every day was, and is, filled to the brink, and i never have time to get bored.  It was 11.30 when i got home from  games night on monday and i stayed up until about 1 00 reading and playing on my tablet  Life is too precious to waste.   

Humility is a flaw but so is bragging ie lieing or exaggerating about one's own achievements. They are both a form of lieing about who you are.   

[Mr Walker]

8 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said:

Not familiar to me. The point is to use the sense both have in common; the sense of smell to gauge the proximity of the opponent. The tactile senses to feel the rush of displaced air from missed blows and the vibration through the feet of the other's passage. The easy and apparent being denied them, the one best able to use what's left, wins.

Its ok  I made that up.

Although i did see the concept  (and name of kerthunk)  on, "Would i lie to you " and the idea of an uncle who filled his sock with a hard object instead of a soft one   

 As the celebrity  told the story i was rolling around on the floor  (The y gave each  contestant  socks, and acted it out,  as well) 

From memory no one  believed it was the truth so his team won that round  You had to yell out kerthunk or kerplunk as you were about to  swing your sock, which gave the others a chance to dodge, but all were blindfolded so it was largely chance 

[+Hammerclaw]

7 minutes ago, Mr Walker said:

Because you think I exaggerate stories from my life, when they are absolutely true, which means you have not had any similar sorts of experiences in your own life . .

Well, as a  student and a teacher, i always had 10 to 12 weeks off a year, plus long service leave accumulating at 15 days a year.  At uni i had  at least 3 months off a year.  i made the most of all my time learning and doing   And generally never had more than about 6 hours sleep a night  and often a lot less Eg last sun night i went to bed a t 3.30 and was up at 7,30  I never drank smoked; or played a lot of regular sport after  about the age of 25, so i had a lot of free time. Since 2005 to 2015 I worked only an average of 3 days a week  while taking a transition to retirement package and using a lot of my long service leave which had accumulated to over 350 days. I also had  (and used)  over 350 days of sick days available to me after my by pass

Because i entered teaching as a bonded scholarship student, aged 16, i was entitled to a lot of those benefits from  1966 onwards,  and some had accumulated before i even started teaching  

 As my dear ol dad always said,  "Government jobs don't pay the best,but they have great benefits" 

Every day was, and is, filled to the brink, and i never have time to get bored.  It was 11.30 when i got home from  games night on monday and i stayed up until about 1 00 reading and playing on my tablet  Life is too precious to waste.   

Humility is a flaw but so is bragging ie lieing or exaggerating about one's own achievements. They are both a form of lieing about who you are.   

My friend, you are humble to a fault and like all human beings, you have many. Contrary to what you might wish, it is those faults that lend to your charm--if you can call it that. In any event, it is what your audience finds most fascinating about you--they just can't get enough!

Edited February 5, 2019 by Hammerclaw

[Mr Walker]

13 minutes ago, Sherapy said:

Being bullied or harassed is in your own mind with your self professed ability to transcend all negative thought or self defeating interpretation why not apply it, end of issue,

How narscissitic to think you have some thing so important to tell that by not  telling it would render lives meaningless, otherwise. If I didn’t know better I would say this is a Walkerian slip. 

In otherwords, we must listen to the great and powerful Walker or he will bully and harass us incessantly. Lol 

For the majority, you have nothing to teach. 

Get over it, end of issue this way too. 

You choose the posts you do and do not respond to. 

No While i am NOT bullied or harassed, there is a clear intent by some to attempt this.

it is this attempt which is wrong, and against the rules, whether it is successful or not 

Bullying behaviour is bullying behaviour, whether it is successful or not. 

Not meaningless But yes i have a lot to teach of value.

  However it is up to others to listen or accept those teachings

You find this narcissistic ? It was my life's work   

MAny humans live lives which are not as empowered.as fulfilled, as happy,  or even as content, as the y could be.

If i can offer help or advice, then i have a duty to do so. 

Not to impose, but to offer advice.  

[+Hammerclaw]

3 minutes ago, Mr Walker said:

No While i am NOT bullied or harassed, there is a clear intent by some to attempt this.

it is this attempt which is wrong, and against the rules, whether it is successful or not 

Bullying behaviour is bullying behaviour, whether it is successful or not. 

Not meaningless But yes i have a lot to teach of value.

  However it is up to others to listen or accept those teachings

You find this narcissistic ? It was my life's work   

MAny humans live lives which are not as empowered.as fulfilled, as happy,  or even as content, as the y could be.

If i can offer help or advice, then i have a duty to do so. 

Not to impose, but to offer advice.  

 

[Mr Walker]

4 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said:

My friend, you are humble to a fault and like all human beings, you have many. Contrary to what you might wish, it is those faults that lend to your charm--if you can call it that. In any event, it is what your audience finds most fascinating about you--they just can't get enough!

Oh yea i have LOTS of faults, but lets not talk about them .  

Of course i have faults. The y begin with certain family traits like argumentativeness.  I have tried to identify and modify them but without total success 

I am not ambitious in a material way and was very lucky to meet and marry a girl who actually endorsed that characteristic .

I dont socialise really well or widely ( largely because I do not drink)  and again was lucky to meet a girl who is similar. 

I dont take pride in my appearance or that of my car but here i am lucky to have a wife who insists i brush my hair when leaving the house and wash the car every month or so  (which i pay a young lad to do )  

 

[+Hammerclaw]

2 minutes ago, Mr Walker said:

Oh yea i have LOTS of faults, but lets not talk about them .  

Of course i have faults. The y begin with certain family traits like argumentativeness.  I have tried to identify and modify them but without total success 

I am not ambitious in a material way and was very lucky to meet and marry a girl who actually endorsed that characteristic .

I dont socialise really well or widely ( largely because I do not drink)  and again was lucky to meet a girl who is similar. 

I dont take pride in my appearance or that of my car but here i am lucky to have a wife who insists i brush my hair when leaving the house and wash the car every month or so  (which i pay a young lad to do )  

 

You remind me of Bob Crumb's Mr. Natural, complete with an entourage of Flakey Foonts!

 
 

[Mr Walker]

9 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said:

 

Love Mr Natural (it s one of the few memes i would actually recognise, having encountered it back in the 60s)  Crumb was a genius, and typical of the counter culture movement  of the time  I guess the reference here is, "Keep on trucking"   

I'd forgotten, but his work was one of the inspirations for my own brief foray into comic art. ( Not published but shared with friends and family)   posted this before your second post on the cartoon.  in older age i have matured and now model my behaviour on tha t of Calvin from "Calvin and Hobbes. "  

ps never had a beard as good as his, but  I did  once have an afro about  18 inches across and a beard about   8 inches long. 

Edited February 5, 2019 by Mr Walker

[+Sherapy]

1 hour ago, Mr Walker said:

No While i am NOT bullied or harassed, there is a clear intent by some to attempt this.

it is this attempt which is wrong, and against the rules, whether it is successful or not 

Bullying behaviour is bullying behaviour, whether it is successful or not. 

Not meaningless But yes i have a lot to teach of value.

  However it is up to others to listen or accept those teachings

You find this narcissistic ? It was my life's work   

MAny humans live lives which are not as empowered.as fulfilled, as happy,  or even as content, as the y could be.

If i can offer help or advice, then i have a duty to do so. 

Not to impose, but to offer advice.  

I don’t observe an intent to bully or harass you, I think you are met with varying degrees of boundaries on your advice offering and don’t like it. 

Not to say there has never been a bonafide bully on here, but just not towards you. 

I think for those that you are imparting something to you know who they are and who they aren’t . Peers are wonderful they inspire or humble us.

I think your outlook is bleak in regards,  to humanity. I think this mindset serves a purpose on a personal level, what that is is for you to work out or not. 

 I on the other hand observe that many live lives of empowerment, inspiration and great joy, while at times challenged by life’s ups and downs most become better for them, this includes you. 

I agree if you are sought out for advice or help and feel you are the right fit, I think it is wonderful that you see it as your duty. 

For me, in my life when I am blessed with these moments I am honored and humbled. 

Edited February 5, 2019 by Sherapy

[+Sherapy]

1 hour ago, Hammerclaw said:

You remind me of Bob Crumb's Mr. Natural, complete with an entourage of Flakey Foonts!

 
 

 

"Herb Caen once said that Mr. Natural is a strange character who is extremely perverse in his personal life and strikes a note in the heart of every man," he said. "I think people can relate to this sort of safe insanity that the character goes through because we all get pushed to the edge of our patience and mental limits in life, and to be able to crack up at somebody else going nuts in a comic rather than us going nuts is a good thing."

 

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/R-Crumb-s-Mr-Natural-character-is-real-and-12614215.php

 

 

In otherwords, given the right circumstances we could all have a bit of oddness in us. If we look a the influence of certain posters, not just Walker, but the ones that have created havoc along the way, htere might be something to what Herb Caen points out. 

 

A toast to the MW’s of the planet. 

 

Edited February 5, 2019 by Sherapy

[+Hammerclaw]

18 minutes ago, Sherapy said:

 

"Herb Caen once said that Mr. Natural is a strange character who is extremely perverse in his personal life and strikes a note in the heart of every man," he said. "I think people can relate to this sort of safe insanity that the character goes through because we all get pushed to the edge of our patience and mental limits in life, and to be able to crack up at somebody else going nuts in a comic rather than us going nuts is a good thing."

 

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/R-Crumb-s-Mr-Natural-character-is-real-and-12614215.php

 

 

In otherwords, given the right circumstances we could all have a bit of oddness in us. If we look a the influence of certain posters, not just Walker, but the ones that have created havoc along the way, htere might be something to what Herb Caen points out. 

 

A toast to the MW’s of the planet. 

 

We are all eccentric, in the sense that our life experiences diverge, at least as much as they coincide. I consider myself quite eccentric, even born that way, if you will. Eccentrics always dance best to the beat of a different drum, often are loners or leaders and rarely are followers. 

Me in my twenties.

 

 

 

Edited February 5, 2019 by Hammerclaw

[Habitat]

1 hour ago, Sherapy said:

A toast to the MW’s of the planet. 

Did the earth's magnetic poles reverse today, or something ?

Edited February 5, 2019 by Habitat

[Stubbly_Dooright]

10 hours ago, Will Due said:

11 hours ago, Stubbly_Dooright said:

how can you explain it to others, that it really is God that tells you this? 

 

I don't have to explain it to others. 

Others have to explain it to themselves (when the universe speaks to them within) why they either ignore, or recognize what they're experiencing

I  find your answer as very vague. And on the other hand, I don’t think you actually answered my question. And I believe, yes you do have to explain it if you going to make simple vague statements.

 What evidence do you have that others know what’s going on to be able to explain it to them selves? What are the characteristics of the universe speaking to someone?  If you know this is what is going on, then you now how to point it out. 

 

[danydandan]

7 hours ago, Mr Walker said:

Just to add (too much time had elapsed to alter my original reply)

 

In  great britain

according to a 2006 Mori poll, 39 per cent of people believe in either creationism or intelligent design – and more than 40 per cent believe they should be taught in schools.

In the usa

Our 39 per cent of people being adherents to creationism may sound high, but it is considerably lower than the United States, where surveys say that 66 per cent of people believed that the world was less than 10,000 years old – and even 16 per cent of biology teachers are creationists. 

very difficult for a democratic govt to directly oppose the fundamental values and beliefs of its citizens.

 

I agree with your assessment, not your figures. I doubt that 40% of people expect creationism and/or ID to be taught in school in the UK. Unless that poll was conducted entirely in Northern Ireland.

[danydandan]

6 hours ago, Mr Walker said:

As i said, you  interpret through YOUR prejudices not mine.

  Why is any of my life ostentatious?

to me it is perfectly normal  even my own family members live more ostentatious lives than me.

At least i dont take a month to go and live in a villa in Tuscany  so i can take part in a truffle festival; or do a cycling and barge trip along the Rhine  

I dont walk across Australia, alone with a push cart, as my cousin did n her fifties, or enter the miss south Australia contest as another cousin did .

  I didnt get perfect scores in my final high school year, and do a doctorate in biological/ nuclear physics, or a double law and environment degree like my nephews and nieces.  I didn't win a citizen of the year award like my mother, and I am not a multi millionaire like my brothers and sisters.

If you dont believe, then you will NEVER understand me, and if you  don't understand me, you will NEVER "get" my thoughts, values,  priorities etc

Thus, no post i ever write will be acceptable to you.  That is YOUR loss not mine. You will never learn anything from me.  

 I cry foul because they are not lies or delusions.

They are all true .

Unless you can prove them false, you have no right simply state, as a factual statement, that i am lying or delusional (although you can offer it as your opinion, and i would find tha t understandable) 

You're not here to teach MrWalker. 

You design your posts to impress thus you are ostentatious and pretentious. 

Good luck.

[danydandan]

7 hours ago, Mr Walker said:

How do you know i am a liar (Actually you cannot know this, because i am not, but rhetorically, how can you KNOW that any thing i have claimed is untrue. Just because they are outside your own experiences does not make them untrue  

No where in my post did I call you liar. 

Edited February 5, 2019 by danydandan

[danydandan]

6 hours ago, Mr Walker said:

That is because fact has two separate  defintions  A fact as a statement capable of being proven true or false is a t least 400 years old.

Thus we have false statements of fact  and false facts. To teach that a fact is always correct would be an error.  In all my education and teaching in Australia (spanning over 60 years)  I never encountered the idea that a fact had to always be true.  i was taught, and i taught, that  a fact unlike an opinion or belief was capable of being proven true or false.  

Not according to the people who write the definitions for Oxford.

[danydandan]

6 hours ago, Mr Walker said:

Indeed, I despise manipulative sociopathic types, who enjoy baiting, trolling, and  manipulating others. They are evil, and can do a lot of harm to those with low self esteem or lack of certainty of self.   

You mean like habitat does often? I've never seen you address this issue with him.

[Habitat]

4 minutes ago, danydandan said:

You mean like habitat does often? I've never seen you address this issue with him.

How about that, I knew there was a reason my ears were burning ! Call it a sixth sense.

[danydandan]

1 minute ago, Habitat said:

How about that, I knew there was a reason my ears were burning ! Call it a sixth sense.

You do it often.

Not the sixth sense stuff, the flamebaiting is what you do. 

[Habitat]

1 minute ago, danydandan said:

You do it often.

Not the sixth sense stuff, the flamebaiting is what you do. 

On recent form, I'm not sure your judgement of such matters is that accurate. I do get a little peeved by people who accuse me of being a liar, so that probably explains some of the more robust responses. I must be like eight bits, he just hates that business of being called a liar !

[danydandan]

Just now, Habitat said:

On recent form, I'm not sure your judgement of such matters is that accurate. I do get a little peeved by people who accuse me of being a liar, so that probably explains some of the more robust responses. I must be like eight bits, he just hates that business of being called a liar !

Eh you don't think stereotyping people is flamebaiting? 

Why would you get peeved at people you don't know, nor can have any impact on your life? Who is accusing you of being a liar?

[Habitat]

3 minutes ago, danydandan said:

Who is accusing you of being a liar?

Quite a few, but hey, not that it matters that much, like I say, a little peeved.

[danydandan]

56 minutes ago, Habitat said:

Quite a few, but hey, not that it matters that much, like I say, a little peeved.

The only thing I see is people asking others for substantial evidence for their claims of supernatural. In your case anyways. 

Is disagreeing with your conclusions regarding your experiences considered accusations of lying to you? Because it isn't.

Are you not going to answer the stereotyping question? Do you consider stereotyping people into a team because they disagree with your opinion flamebaiting?

Edited February 5, 2019 by danydandan