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Why do people believe the bible?

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Rlyeh
5 minutes ago, danydandan said:

Close?

I was covering all bases. 

Close enough that some of those letters appear in my name.

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danydandan
Just now, Rlyeh said:

Close enough that some of those letters appear in my name.

See, I knew I had paranormal abilities.

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Rlyeh
1 minute ago, danydandan said:

See, I knew I had paranormal abilities.

Maybe you're God?

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Habitat

Rivetting stuff !

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danydandan
3 minutes ago, Rlyeh said:

Maybe you're God?

I've never met MrWalker so I doubt it. Or any of the others who have claimed to have met God.

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Will Due
7 hours ago, Stubbly_Dooright said:

What are the characteristics of the universe speaking to someone?  

 

Please Stubbly, I'm definitely not anyone special. Below average probably. If the universe speaks to me, it certainly speaks to everyone.

If I can ignore what the universe says to me within, says to me with everything added up in life, so can everyone.

Likewise with recognition. Going where I'm being directed to go and doing what I'm being asked to do. Which generally is more than a little perturbing (which is why I sometimes decide to pretend that the instructions are vague so I can continue doing what I know is wrong to do).

But as I get older, after following where I've been led to go and doing what I know deep down inside I should do (perturbing as it sometimes is) more and more because of it, I experience great joy.

This doesn't happen to you too?

 

 

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Stubbly_Dooright
1 hour ago, Will Due said:
8 hours ago, Stubbly_Dooright said:

I  find your answer as very vague. And on the other hand, I don’t think you actually answered my question. And I believe, yes you do have to explain it if you going to make simple vague statements.

 What evidence do you have that others know what’s going on to be able to explain it to them selves? What are the characteristics of the universe speaking to someone?  If you know this is what is going on, then you now how to point it out. 

 

I have decided to put my whole post in, and highlighting the part you quoted, so we can get a good idea what I was actually asking. 

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Please Stubbly, I'm definitely not anyone special. Below average probably. If the universe speaks to me, it certainly speaks to everyone.

So, you are saying. but,I'm not questioning your actions and behavior. I'm questioning your instructional statement and how it will do what you say it will do. If it 'certainly speaks to everyone', then show how. I find that part of your quote very vague. (and probably mis-directing)

 

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Likewise with recognition. Going where I'm being directed to go and doing what I'm being asked to do. Which generally is more than a little perturbing (which is why I sometimes decide to pretend that the instructions are vague so I can continue doing what I know is wrong to do).

But as I get older, after following where I've been led to go and doing what I know deep down inside I should do (perturbing as it sometimes is) more and more because of it, I experience great joy.

I don't see how you show you are 'directed how to go and  show how you're doing what you're being asked to do. 

So, you didn't answer the actually question, (that you quoted), which is I find an important step  to know, if people just 'believe God' like you say they should. You say something should happen to them, like I believe you said it would in the post that I questioned. 

On top of that, you mentioned it's vagueness and that you can't understand it very well yourself, despite the surety of your outlook of what you say will happen. 

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This doesn't happen to you too?

Why are you even questioning it? I I'm to go by what you are saying, you should know if it's happening to me or not. You know, by the characteristics that happens every time someone does what you say and just believes God. 

If I knew it was happening to me, don't you think I would be very sure about it and then talk about the characteristics of how it came to be? I know, I feel that there is a possibility it does what you are saying, but there is also the possibility that it doesn't too. You know, because the understanding of what is happening is so very vague. And considering you lack to explain how God or the universe speaks to you, I feel you lack the surety that it is actually what is happening. 

In other words, the universe could just be acting like the universe with no thought or foresight. Wouldn't the vagueness of the 'message' pretty much logically also see it's just the natural way of things? I assure you, there is another part of me that considers this as true. Might that I might get 'messages' from the universe, I also would just it as a universe. 

Plus, for as vague the 'messages' are, (that I see you explaining it) I could be seeing 'messages' from other sources, (unless you are saying it's all universe, then that's a further trip into major vagueness) 

So my question was, provide the characteristics (with sources) of such a think you say happens when people 'believe God'. It wasn't to ask how you handle it. I find that irrelevant to the point, and more damning of what you state as not one hundred percent true. If you can't know for sure that's it's happening to you, how can you know it will happen all of the time for everyone else? 

 

And if you can't, then you cannot (in my way of observing this)  I don't think you should make a statement about what happens, when you really don't know what happens. 

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Will Due
53 minutes ago, Stubbly_Dooright said:

I have decided to put my whole post in, and highlighting the part you quoted, so we can get a good idea what I was actually asking. 

So, you are saying. but,I'm not questioning your actions and behavior. I'm questioning your instructional statement and how it will do what you say it will do. If it 'certainly speaks to everyone', then show how. I find that part of your quote very vague. (and probably mis-directing)

 

I don't see how you show you are 'directed how to go and  show how you're doing what you're being asked to do. 

So, you didn't answer the actually question, (that you quoted), which is I find an important step  to know, if people just 'believe God' like you say they should. You say something should happen to them, like I believe you said it would in the post that I questioned. 

On top of that, you mentioned it's vagueness and that you can't understand it very well yourself, despite the surety of your outlook of what you say will happen. 

Why are you even questioning it? I I'm to go by what you are saying, you should know if it's happening to me or not. You know, by the characteristics that happens every time someone does what you say and just believes God. 

If I knew it was happening to me, don't you think I would be very sure about it and then talk about the characteristics of how it came to be? I know, I feel that there is a possibility it does what you are saying, but there is also the possibility that it doesn't too. You know, because the understanding of what is happening is so very vague. And considering you lack to explain how God or the universe speaks to you, I feel you lack the surety that it is actually what is happening. 

In other words, the universe could just be acting like the universe with no thought or foresight. Wouldn't the vagueness of the 'message' pretty much logically also see it's just the natural way of things? I assure you, there is another part of me that considers this as true. Might that I might get 'messages' from the universe, I also would just it as a universe. 

Plus, for as vague the 'messages' are, (that I see you explaining it) I could be seeing 'messages' from other sources, (unless you are saying it's all universe, then that's a further trip into major vagueness) 

So my question was, provide the characteristics (with sources) of such a think you say happens when people 'believe God'. It wasn't to ask how you handle it. I find that irrelevant to the point, and more damning of what you state as not one hundred percent true. If you can't know for sure that's it's happening to you, how can you know it will happen all of the time for everyone else? 

 

And if you can't, then you cannot (in my way of observing this)  I don't think you should make a statement about what happens, when you really don't know what happens. 

 

Stubbly, I understand that you didn't like what I said, but please look at what I said again.

I didn't say what the universe says is vague. I said that it can be decided to pretend that what the universe says is vague.

And I'll add this to my last post. The great joy that's experienced from believing directly and following the universe's instructions against what might otherwise be desired to do (because it's perturbing) comes later. Sometimes much later. Days, if not years. However, it can be immediately enjoyed. Knowing that you've displaced your own will with the will of something much greater than yourself, which for now, I'm going to call the will of the universe.

And that increasingly makes something that was never vague in the first place, even more clear. And easier to do.

It's the doing, that becomes the evidence. 

 

 

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danydandan
45 minutes ago, Will Due said:

 

Stubbly, I understand that you didn't like what I said, but please look at what I said again.

I didn't say what the universe says is vague. I said that it can be decided to pretend that what the universe says is vague.

And I'll add this to my last post. The great joy that's experienced from believing directly and following the universe's instructions against what might otherwise be desired to do (because it's perturbing) comes later. Sometimes much later. Days, if not years. However, it can be immediately enjoyed. Knowing that you've displaced your own will with the will of something much greater than yourself, which for now, I'm going to call the will of the universe.

And that increasingly makes something that was never vague in the first place, even more clear. And easier to do.

It's the doing, that becomes the evidence. 

 

 

So your a mindless drone?

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danydandan
26 minutes ago, danydandan said:

Knowing that you've displaced your own will with the will of something much greater than yourself, which for now, I'm going to call the will of the universe

@Will Due.

That's what you said. 

Reads like your ok with something subverting your will. And forcing their/it's will upon you. 

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@Will Due your comment doesn't say anything about choosing. Or an I supposed to read between the fecking lines to extract meaning about what the hell your taking about?

If you're fine with not having free will of your own, it explains alot really. You sound more like a cult member every day. 

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Daughter of the Nine Moons

There are far too many personal attacks in this thread. Thread closed for moderator review.

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