Why are UFO images always so bad?

[Dejarma]

33 minutes ago, deWelldone said:

More than enough

More than enough for what?

[ChrLzs]

2 hours ago, deWelldone said:

More than enough, those were not just couple of cases

Oh, DO post links!!!!!  I would however, suggest you re-read the topic of the thread, before adding more misinterpreted imagery... thus proving that the intended audience for this stuff is the uninformed or gullible.  BTW, it's ok to be in the first of those categories (as long as you are prepared to listen and learn), but there isn't much we can do about the second as it seems to be a permanent attribute.

[psyche101]

Proof that Eric Cartman from Southpark is real

[tmcom]

On 2/3/2018 at 8:17 AM, CeresExpo2000 said:

The Foo Fighter showed up during World War II.

Fighters were scrambled but then the Foo Fighter would disappear.

 

On 2/6/2018 at 6:20 AM, CeresExpo2000 said:

90% of what you see on Star Trek The Next Generation is real.

I know the director of Star Trek,  channeled most of the info, in Star Trek, but l am not aware of how much.

On 2/7/2018 at 9:03 AM, CeresExpo2000 said:

MJ-12 made 4 underground bases in 1954.

3 on Indian bases + S4 Area [Located in the mountain range to prevent flooding from the water table.]

The Dulce Base was for the Orion Empire Grays.  They got to mutilate cattle and we got to research their scout class spacecraft.

Eisenhower made a deal with them.

Yes, most likely the shuttle craft, that followed the Apollo astranauts was a grey driven craft.

 

I appreciate you posting so much here, and being open about your experiences, but if l cannot get through with verifiable evidence, then l doubt that you will, it will just give all of the members, that prefer to attack, or use some other trick from their dirty bag something to target.

The better the proof, the more it is a waste of time.

 

Eventhough we will have all out contact, soon, some just don't want to know. Nothing wrong with that, but coming here, and acting like a frightened 5 year old,

bully only shows, fear clouds clarity.

 

Give up while you are ahead or behind, stupidity is infinite.

 

Let them turn on the news one morning and get a life changing shock, they only have themselves to blame.

Edited February 12, 2018 by tmcom

[Dejarma]

4 minutes ago, tmcom said:

The better the proof, the more it is a waste of time.

well that makes sense

[stereologist]

21 minutes ago, tmcom said:

I know the director of Star Trek,  channeled most of the info, in Star Trek, but l am not aware of how much.

Yes, most likely the shuttle craft, that followed the Apollo astranauts was a grey driven craft.

I appreciate you posting so much here, and being open about your experiences, but if l cannot get through with verifiable evidence, then l doubt that you will, it will just give all of the members, that prefer to attack, or use some other trick from their dirty bag something to target.

The better the proof, the more it is a waste of time.

Eventhough we will have all out contact, soon, some just don't want to know. Nothing wrong with that, but coming here, and acting like a frightened 5 year old,

bully only shows, fear clouds clarity.

Give up while you are ahead or behind, stupidity is infinite.

Let them turn on the news one morning and get a life changing shock, they only have themselves to blame.

There is nothing like admitting fiction when people say it was channeled. Channeling is probably one or two steps below chem trails. Chem trail is a huge leap below crop circles.

There was no shuttle craft following Apollo. That's another fiction.

There is nothing like pretending that people looking for evidence are bullies.  Asking for corroboration is the tool to avoid the fear mongering prevalent in the disclosure group. They constantly remind us that the disclosure is purposely slow to avoid panicking the masses. The simple fact is that claims of disclosure being imminent have dragged on for decades. It is strange to me that anyone would bother to listen to these scammers that keep saying wait a little longer, wait another few months, etc. Why would anyone with a memory over 1 year in length be fooled by these obvious hoaxers?

Why are UFO photos so bad If they weren't then the object would be recognized. How simple is that?

[MauriOra]

1 hour ago, tmcom said:

 

I know the director of Star Trek,  channeled most of the info, in Star Trek, but l am not aware of how much.

Yes, most likely the shuttle craft, that followed the Apollo astranauts was a grey driven craft.

 

I appreciate you posting so much here, and being open about your experiences, but if l cannot get through with verifiable evidence, then l doubt that you will, it will just give all of the members, that prefer to attack, or use some other trick from their dirty bag something to target.

The better the proof, the more it is a waste of time.

 

Eventhough we will have all out contact, soon, some just don't want to know. Nothing wrong with that, but coming here, and acting like a frightened 5 year old,

bully only shows, fear clouds clarity.

 

Give up while you are ahead or behind, stupidity is infinite.

 

Let them turn on the news one morning and get a life changing shock, they only have themselves to blame.

Hello Friend ..

Thankyou too, for Posting Your Thoughts...

Yes, Fear, does Cloud Clarity ..

I Give Props to those who speak up, and there are Many ...

It takes Courage, to Come On Here and Be challenged by the Formidable Minds.... And Ceres has been Doing the Due, and hanging in there .. So Thumbs up to You Both..

I've learned alot More From Ceres, and  Many Others,  

Yes .. The Truth Will Become Known.... Eventually

For Some, Seeing is Believing..

Thankyou Again ..xx

Mo..xx

[CeresExpo2000]

3 hours ago, tmcom said:

 

I know the director of Star Trek,  channeled most of the info, in Star Trek, but l am not aware of how much.

Yes, most likely the shuttle craft, that followed the Apollo astranauts was a grey driven craft.

 

I appreciate you posting so much here, and being open about your experiences, but if l cannot get through with verifiable evidence, then l doubt that you will, it will just give all of the members, that prefer to attack, or use some other trick from their dirty bag something to target.

The better the proof, the more it is a waste of time.

 

Eventhough we will have all out contact, soon, some just don't want to know. Nothing wrong with that, but coming here, and acting like a frightened 5 year old,

bully only shows, fear clouds clarity.

 

Give up while you are ahead or behind, stupidity is infinite.

 

Let them turn on the news one morning and get a life changing shock, they only have themselves to blame.

Yes, John Glenn was escorted around the Earth with 2 Gray Scouts.

[CeresExpo2000]

On 2/9/2018 at 11:23 PM, rhysinspire said:

Yea... Alien Craft is quite a huge word and huge claim... It IS an unknown object doesn't mean its Aliens... 

Lockheed Skunkworks Ben Rich: " There are 2 types of UFOs. Theirs and Ours"

[CeresExpo2000]

On 2/9/2018 at 11:54 PM, rhysinspire said:

Oh you mean this one is NOT from Fravor's flight? 

I was so surprise that this video came out whatever real or not... Just dont know what to make of it... 

The F-18 is a toy.

That video woke up a lot of people. LOL

[seeder]

37 minutes ago, CeresExpo2000 said:

Lockheed Skunkworks Ben Rich: " There are 2 types of UFOs. Theirs and Ours"

 

Oh he said that did he?  Please supply a link where he says that

[CeresExpo2000]

13 minutes ago, seeder said:

 

Oh he said that did he?  Please supply a link where he says that

http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2010/08/ufo-are-real-ben-rich-lockheed-skunk.html

[seeder]

1 hour ago, CeresExpo2000 said:

Lockheed Skunkworks Ben Rich: " There are 2 types of UFOs. Theirs and Ours"

 

Un funded Opportunities.... has the initials UFO too.... read the article from top to bottom, seems he was misquoted quite a lot
 

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Andrews claimed that Rich responded that he believed "there are two types of UFOs, the ones we build, and the ones they build...I am a believer in both categories. I feel everything is possible. Many of our man-made UFOs are Un-Funded Opportunities.” Rich underlined the “UFO” in “Un-Funded Opportunities,” but gave no explanation.

https://www.gaia.com/article/ben-rich-lockheed-martin-and-ufos

 

 

[seeder]

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Many in the UFO community seem to believe that Ben Rich, stated during a 1993, Alumni Speech at UCLA:

“We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects and it would take an Act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity…Anything you can imagine, we already know how to do.”

This is far from the truth.

Ben Rich never said such a thing seriously.

https://noriohayakawa.wordpress.com/2016/07/01/ben-rich-erroneously-misquoted-by-the-ufo-community/

 

 

[Timothy]

@Fila, have you started your next semester? 

[stereologist]

8 hours ago, CeresExpo2000 said:

Yes, John Glenn was escorted around the Earth with 2 Gray Scouts.

There we go with another baloney story.

[stereologist]

7 hours ago, CeresExpo2000 said:

The F-18 is a toy.

That video woke up a lot of people. LOL

The video shows a plane following a distant plane. Big deal. That happens often. What is different here is that these guys were like the Chilean pilots that didn't realize that it was a distant plane.

[ChrLzs]

Ceres, I'm just a little curious - are you sarcastically trying to push ufology even further down the drain by dragging up these long and thoroughly debunked (or easily explained) cases, and making unfunny jokes about 'greys'?

Because, frankly, the damage has been done long ago, and UNTIL decent evidence is posted of a real encounter (ie nothing like the hogwash you are posting), ufology will stay in the gutter.  So you are wasting the troll posts.

[rhysinspire]

9 hours ago, CeresExpo2000 said:

The F-18 is a toy.

That video woke up a lot of people. LOL

LOL it certainly did. Many top journals and newspapers and legitimate media took it seriously. 

So I'm gonna give it a win to these UFOs... (However deep inside me, Aliens is still a big big claim)

[tmcom]

11 hours ago, MauriOra said:

Hello Friend ..

Thankyou too, for Posting Your Thoughts...

Yes, Fear, does Cloud Clarity ..

I Give Props to those who speak up, and there are Many ...

It takes Courage, to Come On Here and Be challenged by the Formidable Minds.... And Ceres has been Doing the Due, and hanging in there .. So Thumbs up to You Both..

I've learned alot More From Ceres, and  Many Others,  

Yes .. The Truth Will Become Known.... Eventually

For Some, Seeing is Believing..

Thankyou Again ..xx

Mo..xx

Yes, welcome Mauri, had the predictable comebacks, with blah, blah, pretty much covering it.

The UFO, (images l previously posted here) is hogwosh, crap, and so forth, lol. Eventhough panels spinning away from the Apollo astranauts, video taping it, were spinning end to end, not side to side, and certainly not moving aloneside, instead of away.

And the original video that l originally took the screenshots from are all gone, but l guess NASA send them away to be steam cleaned, (other video l posted has an image of the craft l took images of).

But in the end, fear always wins.

[ChrLzs]

From a handwaving expert...

1 hour ago, tmcom said:

Yes, welcome Mauri, had the predictable comebacks, with blah, blah, pretty much covering it.

Yeah, blah blah is exactly the rebuttal that was used...  It's nice that you were so specific..

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The UFO, (images l previously posted here) is hogwosh

It's spelled hogwash.   If you want to be taken seriously, it's the little things, you know, details, that matter...

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Even though panels spinning away from the Apollo astranauts, video taping it, were spinning end to end, not side to side

Say what?  (It's astronauts, btw - having trouble with your bvowels?)  Which video shows perfect end to end spinning, but much more importantly, what on earth in space makes you think that a freely spinning object (in free fall) might not change its orientation (- indeed it almost certainly will..)  Here you go - watch closely and LEARN stuff (there are more videos following..):

Must be black magic, eh?

Is there any other stuff in orbital mechanics and gyroscopic rotational physics that you don't understand?

This sort of shallow and UN-open-minded thinking, where you rule out things that you don't understand, is not a good look.

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 and certainly not moving aloneside, instead of away.

??? Was the spacecraft (and thus the observers in it) traveling in a straight line, tmcom?  Have a long hard think about that one.  You might even want to consider whether the 'free falling' panels were falling in straight lines...  Gosh, maybe things aren't black and white and ludcicrously simple...  sometimes, you really do need to think.. and if you are not sure, best to find out before making it clear you don't know (.. and don't care).  There's a thread on UM that goes into this in a fair bit of detail, I may dig it up if anyone's genuinely interested.

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And the original video that l originally took the screenshots from are all gone, but l guess NASA send them away to be steam cleaned, (other video l posted has an image of the craft l took images of).

Oh really, the old "NASA hid the videos" line., eh?  Yes, sweetie, we all believe you.  And neither you or anyone else cited those images, or kept a reference at the time?  Highly believable, if a bit incompetent.  You're batting zero on research credibility there...

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But in the end, fear always wins.

I'm not sure 'fear' is the problem here............

Be back later when I get time to take a peek at these alleged images that were from now hidden NASA files.  Perhaps I can identify them - I'll be glad to try to help...

 

 

 

 

 

Edited February 13, 2018 by ChrLzs

[ChrLzs]

tmcom, are the images that you claim were taken by the astronauts, the ones shown in this post?

If so, please answer an important question - Did you create them, or if not WHERE did they come from?  If they were important to you, then surely you must be able to remember *something* about how you got them.  If you did create them, what Apollo mission did the footage come from (I trust it was 11 as that is where these claims come from).  Then may I ask what program you (over) zoomed them up in, and anything else you can remember about the processing used?  FTR, at first glance I can find no other reference to those images, except for your post, which hints that these images were ones YOU 'grabbed', supposedly from NASA footage? and then processed the bejeezus out of them.

What's more, you are right that they don't look like SLA panels, and I suspect the images did NOT come from NASA footage at all....

Now, a small warning before you answer... this is a bit of a trap.    I know more than you might think about this topic and those SLA panels.  A LOT more.  So I'd suggest you don't make claims that may come back to haunt you.

I'll even give a small hint about the nature of the trap...  The Apollo journals have been available probably since before you were born, in paper format, as well as now on the web..............  They refer to many things, not just what the astronauts said..

 

Anyway, tread carefully, or you might discover you have just fought for the side you don't like...

Edited February 13, 2018 by ChrLzs

[tmcom]

2 hours ago, ChrLzs said:

tmcom, are the images that you claim were taken by the astronauts, the ones shown in this post?

If so, please answer an important question - Did you create them, or if not WHERE did they come from?  If they were important to you, then surely you must be able to remember *something* about how you got them.  If you did create them, what Apollo mission did the footage come from (I trust it was 11 as that is where these claims come from).  Then may I ask what program you (over) zoomed them up in, and anything else you can remember about the processing used?  FTR, at first glance I can find no other reference to those images, except for your post, which hints that these images were ones YOU 'grabbed', supposedly from NASA footage? and then processed the bejeezus out of them.

What's more, you are right that they don't look like SLA panels, and I suspect the images did NOT come from NASA footage at all....

Now, a small warning before you answer... this is a bit of a trap.    I know more than you might think about this topic and those SLA panels.  A LOT more.  So I'd suggest you don't make claims that may come back to haunt you.

I'll even give a small hint about the nature of the trap...  The Apollo journals have been available probably since before you were born, in paper format, as well as now on the web..............  They refer to many things, not just what the astronauts said..

 

Anyway, tread carefully, or you might discover you have just fought for the side you don't like...

Ok, my mistake the video is still available, albeit the Spanish subtitle one.

Buzz clearly says, that it is a UFO, and it clearly is not a panel flying away from the module, (the video footage was taken from later Apollo missions, but was present in earlier missions) but either way it is verified, and a legitimate UFO!

This is a real image of the panels that were supposedly the UFO, or very similar panels to the ones blown off later.

The explosive bolts fling them away in all directions, so to the observer filming this, they are spinning away end to end, and moving out to the modules field of view.

Yes, thermodynamics, panels blown off a fast moving object in space, DO NOT keep up with said object!

 

Not unless distance makes them move in the wrong direction or elevates height, or gives then extra obvious features, (triangle, that isn't on the panels or black line that isn't on the panels either).

 

Sweetie!

[Dejarma]

2 hours ago, tmcom said:

but either way it is verified, and a legitimate UFO!

which means people 'definitely' do not know what it is, therefore: "it could be anything" is official it seems.

back to square one then

[CeresExpo2000]

16 hours ago, rhysinspire said:

LOL it certainly did. Many top journals and newspapers and legitimate media took it seriously. 

So I'm gonna give it a win to these UFOs... (However deep inside me, Aliens is still a big big claim)

It was Disclosure Lite.