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Life is Pointless!

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23 hours ago, khol said:

We are an accident.The sooner you know this the more free you become. Life remains a miracle. 

 

Nope, not an accident. An unlikely outcome, one of many possibilities from an organic and chemical chain of events, but not an accident.  That implies purpose and deviation from said purpose.

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10 hours ago, Tatetopa said:

Nope, not an accident. An unlikely outcome, one of many possibilities from an organic and chemical chain of events, but not an accident.  That implies purpose and deviation from said purpose.

absolutely thankyou  

I was partly referring to this    https://www.psi.edu/epo/ktimpact/ktimpact.html    still tho...accident is the wrong expression

If this just grazed the planet at that time and did not strike...it is very likely or more of an absolute actually, that humans wouldn't even have existed. It would have been a reptilian world. Thats how close it came to our non existance. We owe our existance to that rock

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I have one disagreement with all that....

1.  The Now...isn't Present...it just is...it is always and forever Now.   By the time our brain recognizes what our eyes have seen...it is only a memory.  So there really is no present.

I think he intellectualized there being 'no point' just a tad much though.  It is inherent in Mankind to question why.  It's what we do.   And there actually is a Point to life.  The point of life is to continue.....it is the Prime Objective.

There is a video on Netflix I watched...The Planet Earth...something like that...and there are these Iguana type lizards that live on an Island.   There are also a lot of snakes on the Island.  When the lizard eggs hatch from beneath the soil...the newborn lizards dig there way up.  Before their head even comes out of the soil...there eyes are scanning the landscape for snakes.  Then they run for the rocks...some of them make it...some don't.  But they are all aware of the snakes, where the rocks are, the fact that they can outrun the snakes, and the knowledge that if they reach the upper rocks they are safe.  They are aware of all of this...the second they are born.   

 

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One of the points of my life is to amuse myself with mind set of people who claim that life is pointless.

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You must give meaning to the Universe, infusing the fabric of the cosmos itself with artistic passion.

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I agree with XenoFish in that life has no inherent meaning, point or purpose. These are all human created concepts that only serve to help convince a person that such a thing actually exists.

In short it is all a game of pretend, essentially. Granted some "games" are necessary such as caring for others and trying not to be a king-sized jerkwad but otherwise there is no grand plan for life.

I found something on the net that seems to adequately sum it up:

Human life has no meaning independent of itself. There is no cosmic force or deity to give it meaning or significance. There is no ultimate destiny for man. Such a belief is an illusion of humankind's infancy. The meaning of life is what we choose to give it. Meaning grows out of human purposes alone. Nature provides us with an infinite range of opportunities, but it is only our vision and our action that select and realize those that we desire.... Thus the good life is achieved, invented, fashioned in an active life of enterprise and endeavor. But whether or not an individual chooses to enter into the arena depends upon him alone. Those who do can find it energizing, exhilarating, full of triumph and satisfaction. In spite of failures, setbacks, suffering, and pain, life can be fun.

 

 

 

--Paul Kurtz

 

So there you have it. It is an illusion we create. We can only do what we can do so why worry about purpose and point when we have a very real life to contend with?

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14 hours ago, Ryu said:

So there you have it. It is an illusion we create. We can only do what we can do so why worry about purpose and point when we have a very real life to contend with?

Exactamundo!

....might I add that..in the context of that 'very real life to contend with'....there is no point in worrying about any of that either.

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I don't think we're just a cosmic accident. I can't prove this mind you, I just don't believe it. I believe that life is a miracle and that there is something of great purpose behind this miracle. 

Everyone is free to believe whatever they choose though. 

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life it not pointless......we life to die....or there is no point in us being........we have to to life and know we will die......otherwise we don't live....

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8 minutes ago, cluey said:

life it not pointless......we live to die....or there is no point in us being........we have to live and know we will die......otherwise we don't live....

We live and then we die. Doesn't mean there was a point at all to it. 

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On 17 January 2018 at 8:10 PM, XenoFish said:

The only reason things have a point or purpose is because we've giving it to them. The point of your existence, the meaning of your life, how do you define those things? By giving definition to your existence you define yourself. Choices, we're all made of them. Yet there is no underlining meaning to our existence, the universe or anything. And that's okay. Perhaps if there is a god, it didn't have a plan in mind.

I think you are right about us giving things a point or not, how could it be any other way?

And I think that in a large part, whether you believe that there is a meaning to life depends largely upon whether you believe that life came from some kind of primordial soup, by accident, or whether you see a Higher Intelligence at work?

Me, I believe in God, whatever THAT actually is?

So, the meaning of life from my prospective, would be to understand, express, and experience life at its fullest

So the point of life is to awaken to life. 

Demonstrating ones divine nature to its highest potential.

How or why, when and where, is of course up to the individual.

The natural outcome or side affect to this view and expression is happiness, calmness, joy, contentment, peace, friendship and everything else that is good about Life in general. The greater the expression, the greater those experiences. Me, I've only just started so please forgive any slips of alignment from this high ideal. Im working on it lol!

How you live is your choice, but know that choices have consequences - sometimes good, sometimes bad, and sometimes ugly.

 

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On 18/01/2018 at 5:02 PM, Tatetopa said:

Nope, not an accident. An unlikely outcome, one of many possibilities from an organic and chemical chain of events, but not an accident.  That implies purpose and deviation from said purpose.

No, I am an accident.   My Mum told me so  :o:(:P

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so... is every other life pointless?   From the grass and plants, insects, trees, birds, fish and all animals?

It seems when we take 'people' out of the question... the meaning for all other life is.... that it exists....just because it CAN....

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