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Life is Pointless!

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I must admit, I've always been a cynic/nihilist/atheist, all three are attributable but not necessarily interchangeable or mutually exclusive. Still, I've searched for answers, dabbling in the occult, tagging along on paranormal investigations, searching for cryptids, and to be honest, nothing out of the ordinary has occured. Not once did I experience anything which I couldn't answer with my own limited skills. You get the dualists and idealists banging on about mind over matter, but in my own experiments, I could never prove such an outlook. Sure, I don't possess a lab or a hefty budget, but I don't believe they're necessary for inward searching of knowledge The New Age crowd invoke quantum physics as a get out of jail free card, unaware that scientists on a different level of intelligence don't perceive anything mystical or paradigm shattering within the theory.

I've spoken to skeptics and proponents alike, always challenging my own beliefs, but they've not wavered yet. I admit, I've always had an innate bitterness to my own mortality and meaningless existence, leading to an existential crisis at college when studying Philosophy and tackling topics like Ontological, Teleological and Cosmological arguments. I'm only in my 20s, but I'm not one of those atheists who is happy with the absence of an intelligent designer. Maybe I'm just melancholic and pessimistic by way of genetics, but I'm awaiting the day I reach the acceptance phase and can fully enjoy this one miraculous life because there sure isn't going to be a second go at it with this one being nothing but an excruciating rehearsal.

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davros of skaro
On 1/18/2018 at 11:33 PM, joc said:

There is a video on Netflix I watched...The Planet Earth...something like that...and there are these Iguana type lizards that live on an Island.   There are also a lot of snakes on the Island.  When the lizard eggs hatch from beneath the soil...the newborn lizards dig there way up.  Before their head even comes out of the soil...there eyes are scanning the landscape for snakes.  Then they run for the rocks...some of them make it...some don't.  But they are all aware of the snakes, where the rocks are, the fact that they can outrun the snakes, and the knowledge that if they reach the upper rocks they are safe.  They are aware of all of this...the second they are born.   

 

I'm responding to this because it's left open ended that needs closure for those willing to understand evolution.

I was watching a hunting show once (archery/deer). The hunter was showing examples of proper shot placement for broadside heart, and lung. He commented on every time when hit the deer bucks, and back kicks. He says "They always do that, and I don't know why?". I know why. They are responding to a long time predator that's not around anymore. A long time ago the deer (rather an ancient ancestor of the deer) that reacted by doing this, and escaped went on to pass it's genes. Once the gene pool was predominant to proper reaction for better chance of survival when being attacked from behind, or the predator dropping down from above the instinct became ingrained.

If you see sea turtles hatching the young head straight to the ocean. The mother lays many eggs for greater chance of survival of her genes for predators pick them off as the young go to the ocean, and reaching the ocean is no guarantee either. What is not usually shown in nature shows is that few of the young do not go straight to the ocean. Some go in circles, and some though fewer go the opposite way. What if the ones that go in circles are the original instinct where the straight to the ocean ones became the dominant instinct once predators became more prolific? What if the ones going the other way is just the quirk of evolution? There just might be a fresh water pond nearby rich in food, and free of predators? Over time this once sea turtle would become a new species, but that's if others made it to the same pond, and adapted to the environment?

As for the higher rock seeking lizards. You can just look at what the program showed you, and make assumptions. But in nature there's been a long progressive process of both successes, and failures. If one just looks at the success, and ignores the failures? Then in my opinion they are missing out on the true awe. The quirk in evolution is more unto that mutation, and natural selection leads to success eventually. Also keep in mind that some nature documentaries are scrupulous with there methods.

 

As for this thread. The point of life is to keep the planet clean and green.

 

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6 hours ago, davros of skaro said:

I'm responding to this because it's left open ended that needs closure for those willing to understand evolution.

I was watching a hunting show once (archery/deer). The hunter was showing examples of proper shot placement for broadside heart, and lung. He commented on every time when hit the deer bucks, and back kicks. He says "They always do that, and I don't know why?". I know why. They are responding to a long time predator that's not around anymore. A long time ago the deer (rather an ancient ancestor of the deer) that reacted by doing this, and escaped went on to pass it's genes. Once the gene pool was predominant to proper reaction for better chance of survival when being attacked from behind, or the predator dropping down from above the instinct became ingrained.

If you see sea turtles hatching the young head straight to the ocean. The mother lays many eggs for greater chance of survival of her genes for predators pick them off as the young go to the ocean, and reaching the ocean is no guarantee either. What is not usually shown in nature shows is that few of the young do not go straight to the ocean. Some go in circles, and some though fewer go the opposite way. What if the ones that go in circles are the original instinct where the straight to the ocean ones became the dominant instinct once predators became more prolific? What if the ones going the other way is just the quirk of evolution? There just might be a fresh water pond nearby rich in food, and free of predators? Over time this once sea turtle would become a new species, but that's if others made it to the same pond, and adapted to the environment?

As for the higher rock seeking lizards. You can just look at what the program showed you, and make assumptions. But in nature there's been a long progressive process of both successes, and failures. If one just looks at the success, and ignores the failures? Then in my opinion they are missing out on the true awe. The quirk in evolution is more unto that mutation, and natural selection leads to success eventually. Also keep in mind that some nature documentaries are scrupulous with there methods.

 

As for this thread. The point of life is to keep the planet clean and green.

 

Thanks for that...another thing some of the lizards do is stop cold...and wait for a snake to pass by...knowing that the snakes cannot see them unless they move.

...and...why dogs go around in a circle before lying dkwn...the ANCIENT art of laying down the tall grass to make a cozy bed engrained in their dna.

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Sherapy
On 1/17/2018 at 9:23 AM, XenoFish said:

Video's about 3:51 minutes long. I'd like to open a discussion revolving around the topic of finding or not finding the point, purpose, or meaning in life.

Personally, the pointlessness is the golden yummy, because it makes the illusion we are free to decide feasible. Accepting this little nugget has put me in a Zen sweet spot for the most part, of course I have bad days. Lol 

Years ago, I grasped the meaming of meditation after months of agonizing, searching and use this bit of wisdom a lot. This is what I figured out, ready for this: I had nothing to learn, nothing to find, nothing to know, nothing to change, nothing to grow into, nothing to earn or perfect, no guru to hire, no book to buy, blah blah blah, I only had to go to the silence that was already there in my mind to begin with. 

In retrospect, at this point in my life, it has s to love and be loved and have a damn good time while I am at it. 

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Hammerclaw

The problem with living is that some people think too much about it while doing too little of it.

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Dark_Grey
19 hours ago, Hammerclaw said:

The problem with living is that some people think too much about it while doing too little of it.

The thinking man's dilemma..

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