bee Posted January 22, 2018 #76 Share Posted January 22, 2018 23 minutes ago, CeresExpo2000 said: Maybe we should teach Deep State in universities. Deep State = 4th Branch of the Government Maybe But Aren't the Deep State ensconced within universities though -- so I don't think there's much chance of that at this moment in history -- it would be like busting themselves... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeresExpo2000 Posted January 22, 2018 Author #77 Share Posted January 22, 2018 1 minute ago, bee said: Maybe But Aren't the Deep State ensconced within universities though -- so I don't think there's much chance of that at this moment in history -- it would be like busting themselves... Truth already being revealed by Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity. - Millions of listeners on the radio. - 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phaeton80 Posted January 25, 2018 #78 Share Posted January 25, 2018 (edited) On 20-1-2018 at 0:00 PM, preacherman76 said: You know a man by his enemies Ph. The entire establishment has come down on this man, and continues it relentlessly assault. I never thought I’d see the day where a president on either side of the coin was actually real. Now he isn’t everything I’d want in a president, but at least he isn’t trying to destroy us. ..Or so you are lead to believe. A. is it really the whole establishment, of is that the narrative thats been projected unto those that support him. Isnt Fox et al. establishment as well? And B. even if that would be the case, why would you suppose this isnt part of the marketing being used in favor of this individual? Look, he has been positioned as an 'outsider', 'anti establishment'; what better way to foment such a projection than to employ the whole of your 'MSM' outlets to cement that projection? The MSM - for all intents and purposes controlled by several establishment elements - isnt eonly used to promote certain individuals in favor of said elite, you can bet this tool is also employed against certain individuals.. If that fits the aspirations of those that control it. Quote I never thought I’d see the day where a president on either side of the coin was actually real. ..And I dont think you ever will, not as long as we keep vesting our combined 'hope' for 'change' (real change) in products of the present political 'democratic' (lmfao) system. Straightup. I can promise you this; nothing - and I do mean no thing - will ever truely change (case in point; from governing in favor of corporations to by and for The People) top down. And if you or anyone else is waiting for that to happen, you'd best not hold your breath. Quote Now he isn’t everything I’d want in a president, but at least he isn’t trying to destroy us. Is that a fact. I would say this man, Donald J. Trump, is just about the mirror image of a People's Champion. Now truely, this man signifies the antithesis to altruism, he signifies the quintessential service to self individual. His whole life has been one giant mission at self gratification. He is an establishment product, has been dealing with the elite his whole existence. Draining the swamp you say? Come now, nothing could be further from the truth. While he ridiculed Obama's wars abroad, he has been warmongering himself like no other.. Syria, NK, Iran, even Russia.. And what has he done really, but mess around in the margin. What has he done against the FED, the CFR, the MIC, the fraudulent 'democratic system'? Absolutely nothing, evenmore; he keeps feeding the MIC like everyone else before him.. maybe even more so. I think you'd do well to be a wee bit more skeptical, especially.. especially given earlier gleaned results. Only extraordinary evidence would be sufficient to rationally believe this man is anything different than the sockpuppets that went before him. And I do not see any, to the contrary (edit: and it sure as h*ll isnt the fact 'the MSM is against him, so hes the real deal'). Peace. Edited January 25, 2018 by Phaeton80 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phaeton80 Posted January 25, 2018 #79 Share Posted January 25, 2018 PS. One knows a man by his past actions. And the past actions of this individual has been solely focused at self enrichment.. No matter what. To suppose such an individual will save you from the evil elite doesnt seem rational to me. Time will tell though, wont it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeresExpo2000 Posted January 25, 2018 Author #80 Share Posted January 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Phaeton80 said: PS. One knows a man by his past actions. And the past actions of this individual has been solely focused at self enrichment.. No matter what. To suppose such an individual will save you from the evil elite doesnt seem rational to me. Time will tell though, wont it. self enrichment? Pay and Benefits going up all over America! Even Starbucks is raising Pay $$$. The list is growing every week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phaeton80 Posted January 25, 2018 #81 Share Posted January 25, 2018 (edited) Yes, that right, self enrichment. He even treats his 'trophy' wife as personal property. The dude is just about the worst role model you can think of. ..And hes the president of the United States of America, imprinting on millions of kids this is accepted, even admirable in modern society. Ive heard it said he isnt destroying us, but the level of (agressive) internal division, unrivalled military spending, continuous words of war and fake news (tweeted by the saviour him very self) has risen significantly since his rule. His behaviour is a national greencard to follow suit, do as he does. He is setting a standard, and it is as low a standard I personally can imagine. Makes you think of the movie Idiocracy, I **** you not. Then again, maybe its me.. who knows. As it is, Im just flabbergasted by the whole Trump fan phenomena. Edited January 25, 2018 by Phaeton80 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted January 25, 2018 #82 Share Posted January 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Phaeton80 said: PS. One knows a man by his past actions. And the past actions of this individual has been solely focused at self enrichment.. No matter what. To suppose such an individual will save you from the evil elite doesnt seem rational to me. Time will tell though, wont it. Your other post before this one deserves more time then I have right now. As for this one, that just isn't true. When I was first considering that he might actually become president, once it was no longer a joke, I read all kinds of personal stories about him helping people. Heck there is a black homeless lady that has stayed in one of his hotel rooms for the last 20 years. Free of charge. This was after she refused to leave. He happened to be there that day, heard the commotion of security trying to escort her out, and he walked in the room and told the lady she could stay for as long as she needed to. She has been there ever since. He and his sons have been involved in all kinds of charity work. Heck the man paid off a guys mortgage cause he helped out after getting a flat tire in front of his house. I could go on and on. He's a good hearted guy. Then there are several examples like this one. On Sunday, Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) delivered a major blow to the media’s narrative that President Donald Trump’s supposed "s***hole" remark about Haiti proves that he is "racist." Paul appeared on NBC’s "Meet the Press" with host Chuck Todd where he revealed that Donald Trump, as a private citizen, was a major financial backer of medical mission trips to Haiti which resulted in life-changing surgeries for hundreds of Haitians. Speaking about Trump’s alleged "s***hole" comment, Paul said, "You know, I don’t think the comments were constructive at all, but I also think that to be fair we shouldn’t draw conclusions that he didn’t intend." "I know personally about his feelings towards Haiti and toward Central America because when I was not a candidate for president and he wasn’t a candidate for president I went down there on a medical mission trip," Paul continued. "I did about 200 cataract surgeries with a group of surgeons in Haiti and the same in Central America, and when we asked Donald J. Trump as a private citizen to support those trips, he was a large financial backer of both medical mission trips." https://www.dailywire.com/news/25855/watch-rand-paul-reveals-what-trump-did-haiti-ryan-saavedra 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted January 25, 2018 #83 Share Posted January 25, 2018 You see what they want you to see. So I don't blame you for thinking he is as big a POS as they want you to think he is. But it just isn't true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeresExpo2000 Posted January 25, 2018 Author #84 Share Posted January 25, 2018 9 minutes ago, Phaeton80 said: Yes, that right, self enrichment. He even treats his 'trophy' wife as personal property. The dude is just about the worst role model you can think of. ..And hes the president of the United States of America, imprinting on millions of kids this is accepted, even admirable in modern society. Ive heard it said he isnt destroying us, but the level of (agressive) internal division, unrivalled military spending, continuous words of war and fake news (tweeted by the saviour him very self) has risen significantly since his rule. His behaviour is a national greencard to follow suit, do as he does. He is setting a standard, and it is as low a standard I personally can imagine. Makes you think of the movie Idiocracy, I **** you not. Then again, maybe its me.. who knows. As it is, Im just flabbergasted by the whole Trump fan phenomena. It's all about Prosperity $$$ and Rugged Individualism. President Trump is a Nationalist, not a Globalist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phaeton80 Posted January 25, 2018 #85 Share Posted January 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, CeresExpo2000 said: It's all about Prosperity $$$ and Rugged Individualism. President Trump is a Nationalist, not a Globalist. That doesnt mean he isnt controlled by thesame though. Again; it is irrational to expect this time it will somehow be different. The game is rigged, table slanted. Aint no People's Champion floating to the top of this system any time soon. Last time was in the days of JFK, who dared to move against the Israeli's, and payed the price for it. Because thats what happens to Peoples Champions, they get martered. Now, they dont even get airtime, let alone float to the top of the ballot boxes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeresExpo2000 Posted January 25, 2018 Author #86 Share Posted January 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Phaeton80 said: That doesnt mean he isnt controlled by thesame though. Again; it is irrational to expect this time it will somehow be different. The game is rigged, table slanted. Aint no People's Champion floating to the top of this system any time soon. Last time was in the days of JFK, who dared to move against the Israeli's, and payed the price for it. Because thats what happens to Peoples Champions, they get martered. Now, they dont even get airtime, let alone float to the top of the ballot boxes. Actions speak louder than words. We will see more action between now and October 2018. I can see the Middle Class getting stronger and stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phaeton80 Posted January 25, 2018 #87 Share Posted January 25, 2018 (edited) 25 minutes ago, preacherman76 said: Your other post before this one deserves more time then I have right now. As for this one, that just isn't true. When I was first considering that he might actually become president, once it was no longer a joke, I read all kinds of personal stories about him helping people. Heck there is a black homeless lady that has stayed in one of his hotel rooms for the last 20 years. Free of charge. This was after she refused to leave. He happened to be there that day, heard the commotion of security trying to escort her out, and he walked in the room and told the lady she could stay for as long as she needed to. She has been there ever since. He and his sons have been involved in all kinds of charity work. Heck the man paid off a guys mortgage cause he helped out after getting a flat tire in front of his house. I could go on and on. He's a good hearted guy. Then there are several examples like this one. On Sunday, Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) delivered a major blow to the media’s narrative that President Donald Trump’s supposed "s***hole" remark about Haiti proves that he is "racist." Paul appeared on NBC’s "Meet the Press" with host Chuck Todd where he revealed that Donald Trump, as a private citizen, was a major financial backer of medical mission trips to Haiti which resulted in life-changing surgeries for hundreds of Haitians. Speaking about Trump’s alleged "s***hole" comment, Paul said, "You know, I don’t think the comments were constructive at all, but I also think that to be fair we shouldn’t draw conclusions that he didn’t intend." "I know personally about his feelings towards Haiti and toward Central America because when I was not a candidate for president and he wasn’t a candidate for president I went down there on a medical mission trip," Paul continued. "I did about 200 cataract surgeries with a group of surgeons in Haiti and the same in Central America, and when we asked Donald J. Trump as a private citizen to support those trips, he was a large financial backer of both medical mission trips." https://www.dailywire.com/news/25855/watch-rand-paul-reveals-what-trump-did-haiti-ryan-saavedra I dont even care about the sh*hole remark, Im irritated by the overblown reaction as well. Just like I think the whole Russia collusion thingy is a ploy, ruse. I do care about the remarks about women, how he sees them as commodities to take advantage of. I care about certain other disgusting remarks he made, and the sheer arrogance that drips through all but every incoherent word he utters ("I know the best words", and unbelievably dim bs like that, I mean you just cant make it up if you tried..). Pretty intrigued about this altruistic Donald you speak of, could you forward some links for me? Edited January 25, 2018 by Phaeton80 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phaeton80 Posted January 25, 2018 #88 Share Posted January 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, CeresExpo2000 said: Actions speak louder than words. We will see more action between now and October 2018. I can see the Middle Class getting stronger and stronger. Yes they do. Lets see what happens. Cheers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted January 25, 2018 #89 Share Posted January 25, 2018 38 minutes ago, Phaeton80 said: I dont even care about the sh*hole remark, Im irritated by the overblown reaction as well. Just like I think the whole Russia collusion thingy is a ploy, ruse. I do care about the remarks about women, how he sees them as commodities to take advantage of. I care about certain other disgusting remarks he made, and the sheer arrogance that drips through all but every incoherent word he utters ("I know the best words", and unbelievably dim bs like that, I mean you just cant make it up if you tried..). Pretty intrigued about this altruistic Donald you speak of, could you forward some links for me? Will do. I’ll be back soon as I can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxcred Posted January 25, 2018 #90 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Trump and his cronies can't drain the swamp. They are the swamp. In all the investigations into Hillary Clinton there has never been a single indictment. Robert Mueller's Trump investigation already has four - Flynn, Manafort, Rick Gates and Papadopoulos, and I don't doubt there are more indictments to come. Anyone who thinks Trump has any intention or ability to 'drain the swamp' is seriously off the mark. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeresExpo2000 Posted January 29, 2018 Author #91 Share Posted January 29, 2018 On 1/25/2018 at 3:38 PM, maxcred said: Trump and his cronies can't drain the swamp. They are the swamp. In all the investigations into Hillary Clinton there has never been a single indictment. Robert Mueller's Trump investigation already has four - Flynn, Manafort, Rick Gates and Papadopoulos, and I don't doubt there are more indictments to come. Anyone who thinks Trump has any intention or ability to 'drain the swamp' is seriously off the mark. President Trump can drain the swamp in Washington D.C. and sell nationalism in Davos, Switzerland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Grey Posted January 29, 2018 #92 Share Posted January 29, 2018 On 1/25/2018 at 1:38 PM, maxcred said: Trump and his cronies can't drain the swamp. They are the swamp. In all the investigations into Hillary Clinton there has never been a single indictment. Robert Mueller's Trump investigation already has four - Flynn, Manafort, Rick Gates and Papadopoulos, and I don't doubt there are more indictments to come. Anyone who thinks Trump has any intention or ability to 'drain the swamp' is seriously off the mark. Boy, have I got a thread for you.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer77 Posted January 30, 2018 #93 Share Posted January 30, 2018 On 1/25/2018 at 3:24 PM, Phaeton80 said: The dude is just about the worst role model you can think of. ..And hes the president of the United States of America, imprinting on millions of kids this is accepted, even admirable in modern society. Ive heard it said he isnt destroying us, but the level of (agressive) internal division, unrivalled military spending, continuous words of war and fake news (tweeted by the saviour him very self) has risen significantly since his rule. You wanna know how screwed this nation really is? ok then 72 percent of Republicans think Trump is 'a good role model for children' Quote A new poll published Thursday found that 72 percent of Republican voters feel that President Trump "is a good role model for children." Every other category, meanwhile — be it race, age group, or gender — strongly disagreed with that assessment. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeresExpo2000 Posted February 1, 2018 Author #94 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Drain The Swamp = Release the FISA Memo! Should be very soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted February 1, 2018 #95 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Just now, CeresExpo2000 said: Drain The Swamp = Release the FISA Memo! Should be very soon. Sounds like we will never see it (the original). I just heard that Nunes rewrote it before sending it to the white house for release. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/devin-nunes-change-secret-memo-trump-adam-schiff_us_5a729a46e4b06fa61b4d57d6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeresExpo2000 Posted February 1, 2018 Author #96 Share Posted February 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Gromdor said: Sounds like we will never see it (the original). I just heard that Nunes rewrote it before sending it to the white house for release. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/devin-nunes-change-secret-memo-trump-adam-schiff_us_5a729a46e4b06fa61b4d57d6 Lets all just read the 4 page FISA Memo and make up our own minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted February 1, 2018 #97 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Just now, CeresExpo2000 said: Lets all just read the 4 page FISA Memo and make up our own minds. The original or the new one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeresExpo2000 Posted February 1, 2018 Author #98 Share Posted February 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Gromdor said: The original or the new one? I'm sure BOTH show the FBI to be very corrupt. More will resign/quit at the FBI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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